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SCRAPPER392

CanisWolfred wrote:

@SCAR Here you go: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-spec-analysi...

Please note, they're relying on the assumptions that the exact specs are true to the leaked specs, since they seem to be accurate based on what Microsoft has divulged. I can't find anything where Microsoft disproved those specs post-reveal, though.

Again, the better specs need to associated with possibly lower specs in other areas. It said lower latency is still an advantage Xbox One has, even with all those "advantages".
The difference is that Xbox One has more custom parts specifically designed for the console. All of it's 8 cores are factually more unique than the PS4's cores. That's an investment Microsoft made, and Sony didn't.
The bandwidth means more data is being sent through the console, but if that data is not designated for only one task, it won't make a difference for a separate function.
I've already said, the PS4 has advantages, but so does the Xbox One. They both offer features that aren't related in any way, regardless of how similar you think the consoles are.
An example of wasted processing, is the other OS feature on the PS3 when it was taken out, which is why I brought it up. Other OS needed the correct components to run off of the PS3 hardware. Anyone that has the original PS3 has parts in their console will never do anything.
The part that runs Linux will never be used, and newer PS3 consoles don't even have those parts anymore.
People still regarded the parts that were required to run Linux as part of the overall console structure.

@Sony_70
I agree with some points, but Playstation fans always forget alot ofthe arguments they have still relate to either the Xbox One or Wii U.
The "haven't revealed their full hand" is what people have been saying for months about Wii U, and the whole free games thing is really opinionated. I'd rather have what Xbox offers, and be able to keep it.
I get that the argument is that PS Plus will most likely offer newer games, but that won't matter to some that would rather buy 1-3 games, and be able to keep it on Xbox.
I was disappointed by PS Plus when I had it, and losing that same service after a year was even worse.

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Qwest

SCRAPPER392

CanisWolfred wrote:

It really does suck about how they had to get rid of those PS3s, but I always figured that the whole "PS3 as a Military PC" thing was just a publicity stunt anyways and not something they were serious about. I'd actually be worried if the military seriously thought using game systems to build a super computer was a good use of the taxpayer's money...

It was a publicity stunt, but the publicity stunt wouldn't have happened if Sony kept other OS. They were making a point that the Navy did actually waste money, but it wasn't by any fault of theirs.
Sony went back on a relevant/important feature. The Navy tried to save money by buying PS3s instead of Linux computers.
They bought PS3 systems, then they had to destroy them and buy Linux computers, anyway, so more money was wasted in the long run.

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Reala

SCAR392 wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

It really does suck about how they had to get rid of those PS3s, but I always figured that the whole "PS3 as a Military PC" thing was just a publicity stunt anyways and not something they were serious about. I'd actually be worried if the military seriously thought using game systems to build a super computer was a good use of the taxpayer's money...

It was a publicity stunt, but the publicity stunt wouldn't have happened if Sony kept other OS. They were making a point that the Navy did actually waste money, but it wasn't by any fault of theirs.
Sony went back on a relevant/important feature. The Navy tried to save money by buying PS3s instead of Linux computers.
They bought PS3 systems, then they had to destroy them and buy Linux computers, anyway, so more money was wasted in the long run.

All sounds a bit madey upy to me, or at the very least over exaggerated.

Reala

Phatosaurus

TysonOfTime wrote:

I... E...Excuse me? Did you SERIOUSLY bring up something as baseless as the quality of each side's computer programmers?
And they don't know how to use the console they built. I just can't

I'm done. Let's talk about anything else. Please.

Lets just say that SCAR392 doesn't talk from his mouth.

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SCRAPPER392

Phatosaurus wrote:

TysonOfTime wrote:

I... E...Excuse me? Did you SERIOUSLY bring up something as baseless as the quality of each side's computer programmers?
And they don't know how to use the console they built. I just can't

I'm done. Let's talk about anything else. Please.

Lets just say that SCAR392 doesn't talk from his mouth.

Unless you're talking about my mind or soul, then I'm afraid this comment is inappropriate and doesn't really help much.

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Phatosaurus

SCAR392 wrote:

Phatosaurus wrote:

TysonOfTime wrote:

I... E...Excuse me? Did you SERIOUSLY bring up something as baseless as the quality of each side's computer programmers?
And they don't know how to use the console they built. I just can't

I'm done. Let's talk about anything else. Please.

Lets just say that SCAR392 doesn't talk from his mouth.

Unless you're talking about my mind or soul, then I'm afraid this comment is inappropriate and doesn't really help much.

You would know all about inappropriate posts that don't help much.

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SCRAPPER392

Phatosaurus wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

Phatosaurus wrote:

TysonOfTime wrote:

I... E...Excuse me? Did you SERIOUSLY bring up something as baseless as the quality of each side's computer programmers?
And they don't know how to use the console they built. I just can't

I'm done. Let's talk about anything else. Please.

Lets just say that SCAR392 doesn't talk from his mouth.

Unless you're talking about my mind or soul, then I'm afraid this comment is inappropriate and doesn't really help much.

You would know all about inappropriate posts that don't help much.

I obviously don't, because your post wasn't clear enough.

Qwest

The_Fox

Wow. Look at what happens when you stop paying attention to a thread for a few days.

"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

-President John Adams

Treaty of Tripoly, article 11

SCRAPPER392

Anyways... So, Xbox One. Ya, it seems really nice, huh? LOL.

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FOREST_RANGER

CanisWolfred wrote:

As much as I'd like to believe SCAR deserves it, I highly doubt outright insulting him will help anybody. :/

This.

It's been pointed out before that these shenanigans with said user doesn't get anywhere. Those people had also insulted him and it didn't really do anything. Even active-then @WaltzElf couldn't do anything about it.

I would cut off my arguments if they don't get anywhere to avoid any drama. Or if I were still determined, I'd at least refrain from using insults. Of course it'd be hard to do that in the last argument that just pervaded this thread. So I'd cut off the argument altogether.

So play nice next time.

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AlexSays

Waltz was banned? NOOOO

That really sucks. Can't believe that crusader of logic and reasoning has fallen.

AlexSays

Jaz007

AlexSays wrote:

Waltz was banned? NOOOO

That really sucks. Can't believe that crusader of logic and reasoning has fallen.

If you go back a little on the "NL users you never see anymore" thread you'll see the story. His most current username is @Bankai by the way.

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Jaz007

AlexSays

Jaz007 wrote:

If you go back a little on the "NL users you never see anymore" thread you'll see the story. His most current username is @Bankai by the way.

Found it, thanks! That really sucks. I'LL GET YOU BACK BRO, HANG IN THERE

AlexSays

Phatosaurus

CanisWolfred wrote:

As much as I'd like to believe SCAR deserves it, I highly doubt outright insulting him will help anybody. :/

True.
Back on topic then? Drop the mandatory Kinect and the price and I will buy a Xbone in 3-4 years time.

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banacheck

As some of you know the demo's showed at E3 almost all of them are in pre-alpha stage or a little further in development, so the game's are going to look & run a lot better when thay hit gold master. Every PS4 title was running off actually PS4 hardware, a lot of Xbox One game's where running on "target hardware" or "debug environments" on PC.

Digital Foundry.
it's somewhat dismaying and very concerning that the majority of Xbox One games we saw at E3 were not actually running on console hardware, photos from E3 have emerged showing watercooled CPUs with Nvidia GeForce hardware, a world apart from production Xbox One silicon.

Digital Foundry.
No smoke or mirrors from Sony - everything we saw was running on PS4 hardware

banacheck

banacheck

The Xbox One is set on a different path from the PS4, while the PS4 will be catering more for the Hardcore gamer. Xbox One is going to be catering more for the casual gamer with it's Kinect & TV functions, Xbox One OS also shows it's not a dedicated gaming rig. The PS4 OS while it'll will have other non-gaming features, them non-gaming features don't bog-down it's OS making it more of a dedicated gaming rig. Xbox One is not going for power because of there target audience.

Digital Foundry.
Xbox One architecture and the proof we need that PlayStation 4's 18 CU graphics core has 50 per cent more raw power than the GPU in the new Microsoft console.

Digital Foundry.
if you're wondering why Xbox One has a weaker GPU than PlayStation 4, it's because both platform holders have similar silicon budgets for the main processor - Sony has used the die-space for additional compute units and ROPs (32 vs. 16 in One), while Microsoft has budgeted for ESRAM and data move engines instead.

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banacheck

shingi_70

Phatosaurus wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

As much as I'd like to believe SCAR deserves it, I highly doubt outright insulting him will help anybody. :/

True.
Back on topic then? Drop the mandatory Kinect and the price and I will buy a Xbone in 3-4 years time.

I don't think Kinect will be dropped due to them putting it in their so that developers won't have to build kinect games or features with wondering about if people have the hardware. Microsoft also wants people able to use Skype and Twitch out the box with video support. I think Sony is making a calculated risk by not having the camera in the box.

People said Killer Instinct was a bad game to bring back.

Also its speculated that Microsoft will announce self publishing or more about its effort toward indies this week at Build

Quote from Mattrick

"We're going to have an independent creator program," Don Mattrick, Microsoft's head of interactive entertainment (read: he's in charge of the Xbox), told me last week. "We're going to sponsor it. We're going to give people tools. We're going to give more information.

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