This is excellent news. I'm glad to see that Microsoft saw how wildly unpopular its decisions were before it was too late. Now to decide if I'm going to preorder....
I'm still gonna wait it out a bit and see. If something like this could happen, who knows what might happen in the nearly six months between now and release?
Honestly, I probably will wait just to see what games are available in the launch window. I always kinda feel like a sucker buying a system at launch and then getting annoyed at the lack of games.
This really isn't "great news" at all. Does this really convince you guys to buy their crap all of a sudden? The thing with a, always online connection is that it gives Microsoft complete control over you. There are only disadvantages in an always online system, look at simcity, so why did they want to force it upon us? Purely because Microsoft wants all the power, same goes for not being able to sell your games. Don't fall for their changes all of a sudden now that they realize that you won't buy their console. Once people have bought it, they'll come up with something new to tie you to them. I'm never ever going to buy a console by microsoft again.
Does it convince me to buy their system? I don't see why not, since they've reversed the two policies that were keeping me from the system. You can play fortune teller all you want but unless I see something to convince me otherwise I'm back on board.
Wait, are you guys and gals saying that has been better announcements about the Xbox One? I still doubt I'll buy it, since it lacks backwards compatibility and highly-paid online subscriptions.
I'll admit it, the lack of backwards compatibility is a bit of a punch to the danglers but I guess I can always just keep my old 360. My living room is going to be sooooooo cluttered.
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Microsoft said it was planning to let people connect their 360 to their Xbox One. Not ideal, but it's still better than anything offered by the PS4 backwards-compatibility-wise.
Microsoft said it was planning to let people connect their 360 to their Xbox One. Not ideal, but it's still better than anything offered by the PS4 backwards-compatibility-wise.
How so? You'd still need the bulky 360 switched on under the TV with the game disc spinning. It's really no different to keeping a PS3 under the TV.
Only instead of plugging a HDMI cable into the TV you're plugging it into the Xbox One.
Microsoft said it was planning to let people connect their 360 to their Xbox One. Not ideal, but it's still better than anything offered by the PS4 backwards-compatibility-wise.
How so? You'd still need the bulky 360 switched on under the TV with the game disc spinning. It's really no different to keeping a PS3 under the TV.
Only instead of plugging a HDMI cable into the TV you're plugging it into the Xbox One.
Well you also get the Xbone overlay on top of the 360 by plugging it into the system. If that's your thing.
Sony's PS4 way of getting backwards capability is a lot better as it's full backwards capability, PSOne, PS2, PS3. Other than that just keep your PS3/360.
Sony's PS4 way of getting backwards capability is a lot better as it's full backwards capability, PSOne, PS2, PS3. Other than that just keep your PS3/360.
Last time I checked, PS1/PS2/PS3 backward compatibility was through Gaikai (online stream).
Judging from OnLive, it won't very good.
Sony's PS4 way of getting backwards capability is a lot better as it's full backwards capability, PSOne, PS2, PS3. Other than that just keep your PS3/360.
Last time I checked, PS1/PS2/PS3 backward compatibility was through Gaikai (online stream).
Judging from OnLive, it won't very good.
No good backwards compatibility for the PS4 either? Darn.
Microsoft said it was planning to let people connect their 360 to their Xbox One. Not ideal, but it's still better than anything offered by the PS4 backwards-compatibility-wise.
How so? You'd still need the bulky 360 switched on under the TV with the game disc spinning. It's really no different to keeping a PS3 under the TV.
Only instead of plugging a HDMI cable into the TV you're plugging it into the Xbox One.
It is a less troublesome set-up if you want both of the systems hooked up simultaneously.
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Sony's PS4 way of getting backwards capability is a lot better as it's full backwards capability, PSOne, PS2, PS3. Other than that just keep your PS3/360.
Last time I checked, PS1/PS2/PS3 backward compatibility was through Gaikai (online stream).
Judging from OnLive, it won't very good.
No good backwards compatibility for the PS4 either? Darn.
Hopefully Sony and Gaikai have mastered quantum mechanics and have finally got game streaming to work as intended, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Looks like his efforts to be recruited on Microsoft by praising the DRM policies absolutely failed.
I got this from the second article. “I’ve said before if I worked at Microsoft I would not only POSITIVELY motivate users to go digital but also offer their own trading system in which they give you MORE money for your game than Gamestop and sell the used games for LESS than Gamestop. Include a Netflix style mailing system and move along your merry way by engaging the customer as opposed to treating them like criminals."
Can anybody make some sort of sense from this, cause I'm scratching my head right now. How does this fit with his "no used games ideals"?
Looks like his efforts to be recruited on Microsoft by praising the DRM policies absolutely failed.
I got this from the second article. “I’ve said before if I worked at Microsoft I would not only POSITIVELY motivate users to go digital but also offer their own trading system in which they give you MORE money for your game than Gamestop and sell the used games for LESS than Gamestop. Include a Netflix style mailing system and move along your merry way by engaging the customer as opposed to treating them like criminals."
Can anybody make some sort of sense from this, cause I'm scratching my head right now. How does this fit with his "no used games ideals"?
I think his problem with used games is that all of the money given goes to the one selling it. If Gamestop sells a game for $30 used, they make way more money than if it was $30 new. If his plans were taken into account, then people would be interacting in a used-game ecosystem where some of the money goes to Microsoft and the publisher, like it would with a new game. Plus, it would be a better place for used game trading due to treating the customers better through better prices (according to him).
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Looks like his efforts to be recruited on Microsoft by praising the DRM policies absolutely failed.
I got this from the second article. “I’ve said before if I worked at Microsoft I would not only POSITIVELY motivate users to go digital but also offer their own trading system in which they give you MORE money for your game than Gamestop and sell the used games for LESS than Gamestop. Include a Netflix style mailing system and move along your merry way by engaging the customer as opposed to treating them like criminals."
Can anybody make some sort of sense from this, cause I'm scratching my head right now. How does this fit with his "no used games ideals"?
I think his problem with used games is that all of the money given goes to the one selling it. If Gamestop sells a game for $30 used, they make way more money than if it was $30 new. If his plans were taken into account, then people would be interacting in a used-game ecosystem where some of the money goes to Microsoft and the publisher, like it would with a new game. Plus, it would be a better place for used game trading due to treating the customers better through better prices (according to him).
Oh I see, I read "I've said before, if I worked at Microsoft" as "I've said before I worked at Microsoft" which is why I was confused.
Looks like his efforts to be recruited on Microsoft by praising the DRM policies absolutely failed.
Why woud he need to be recruited by Microsoft? Dude is a millionaire who's been in the business since he was a teenager. I disagree with CliffyB, but lets be honest whenever he decides to come back to active devopment his game will be funded by the higest bidder.
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I think his problem with used games is that all of the money given goes to the one selling it. If Gamestop sells a game for $30 used, they make way more money than if it was $30 new. If his plans were taken into account, then people would be interacting in a used-game ecosystem where some of the money goes to Microsoft and the publisher, like it would with a new game. Plus, it would be a better place for used game trading due to treating the customers better through better prices (according to him).
In other words: he is not happy with the way used games are currently established and he prefers to see a certain degree of control over these while, of course, profiting even while you are harming consumers and traditional gaming stores alike, pretty much.
Why woud he need to be recruited by Microsoft? Dude is a millionaire who's been in the business since he was a teenager. I disagree with CliffyB, but lets be honest whenever he decides to come back to active devopment his game will be funded by the higest bidder.
Before Microsoft pulled back their ‘always-online’ and anti-used games DRM, Cliffy was pretty much agreed with their ideals; he even slammed Sony for their lack of used games blockers and he coined it as a free PR tactic. To me, that pretty much sounded like he wanted to gain a place in the company sooo bad. Now that Microsoft has finally shown some common sense, this guy totally lost his own.
This champ is known for being a total big mouth, and while most of his creations were undeniably good, it’s impossible to agree with much of the stuff he says. This one, in particular, is top class:
As you pointed out, the guy is a millionaire. But here comes the thing: on such state, I don’t think he’s got the right to come up with such a statement after profiting millions with the Gears of War series. Also, to his statement, there is an effective solution: lower their budgets. I don’t think developers need rocket science to know a game doesn’t necessarily need to be akin to Hollywood productions while encouraging for more ambitiously creative projects to stand out in the market.
All I am saying is: Cliffy should not come up teaching how to deal with business and most importantly how to treat consumers while riding his precious Lamborghini.
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