Topic: The everything Xbox thread

@ThanosReXXX lol I'll get to another text wall reply (i try to scale it back, i really do! ) another time but before that, for the remainder of the conversation, let's agree to agree that forward compatibility as i described as possible. The debate will be much smoother for the remaining points if we start it with the common assumption that technologically it's entirely feasible to have years of forward compatibility (we've already hashed the fact that it may it may not be possible cpu depending but let's agree for the remainder of the debate to assume it's entirely possible)

@NEStalgia Oh, no worries. We don't have to agree to agree, because I already agreed with you on the current gen Xboxen being possible streaming solutions for next gen, albeit that I don't see it as a long-running solution, as I already detailed more than elaborate enough in the previous comment. The S and X aren't going to ride the coattails of the (two?) Xbox Scarlett console(s) for the entire length of its generation.

That is just not feasible, isn't business sensible in the long run, and therefor isn't long-term profitable either. And as an X owner, would you want to downgrade to an S? More than likely not, so why would anyone want to play Scarlett games on an X, if they can get the full-blown experience by actually playing these games on a Scarlett? Seems like a relative no-brainer to me...

The overlay-period could be good for Xbox One S/X owners not really feeling the need to upgrade (yet), or for people on the fence, OR for people not interested in Scarlett games at all, for whatever reason. Could even be the same reason as to why some people currently aren't interested in an X, so if 4K isn't going to sway them now, then it might possibly still not sway them in two years either...

So, in closing: if you want me to completely agree with you, then all I would be willing and able to admit to, is that it's "entirely" possible on paper, but not in real life, and not in the long run.

@ThanosReXXX will my point was to argue the business case for it (medium to full term) we'd have to first agree to assume it's possible at all (streaming, it definitely is, and that would indeed be full term oif not infinite.... The streaming sum is all that matters there. They wouldn't care if you're using a 6 year old laptop so long as it runs win10.. The local forward compatibility we don't know yet if that'sa thing it not but for the business case debate we would need to start with the assumption it is, let it get derailed in confusion.)

@Banjos_Backpack absolutely. I think the big problem, to me with online is, aside from the general toxicity of Internet dwellers (seriously would you want an audio version of the nl comments? That's online games ) is that it's mostly just an analog of sports. Team red wants to play with team blues ball! Yay! I'm not really fond of conventional team sports.... It bores me. If i liked it if probably not be a gamer . Yet online competitive games are in one way or another, more or less that.SoT isn't for me either but it's at least coop at heart and more interesting. Still less so for only2 players though. I wishi could loce SoT but it just doesn't click at all for me. I'm not a social gamer (even thoughi can't shut up here )

Blue isnt wrong about xc1 but hes a bit too harsh. The gameplay, if anything suffers by being to easy to just auto pilot through. It's not strong and tactical like ff or octo. It's a bit more finding out what works for you and doing it over and over. The open world is big but somewhat pointless to over explore. Keeping in mind its a, what, 2010 game goes a long way. Xeno everything back to xenosaga is a very rough diamonds, coarsely flawed and brilliant all at once. It's not as refined as more mainstream rpgs, but there's also nothing quite like it.

Otoh while xc2 gets combat way more interesting, it messes up by having rng pokeparty members and a Pokemon style hms. It's hard to describe xeno unless you've played xeno. Some hate it. Some love it. Some think1 was the best. Some think 1 was the worst. Only one person, evillucario thinks x was the best my own take is if you like rpgs, if you like games that don't always explain things to you, if you don't mind ignoring side quests with some really questionable design choices, there's a lot of fun to be had. And the story is the most interesting barrage of plot twist youll ever see in a game. But it's polarizing as a series. Either you'll love it it you'll hate it. There's no in between. Also if you try it, don't pass judgement until after the mines. Worst chapter of the game, in part because you're suck with sharla, the useless healer that makes battles drag on forever

@Banjos_Backpack Online chat can be annoying sometimes, I agree, I told one of my "friends" to shut up and he got mad but kept bothering and then I kicked him and blocked him from the party and then he removed me as friend... Stories like this are real with strangers or "friends" but what can you do, not everybody is as nice as us. Real life sucks sometimes, too. Based on what I know about you, you'd probably like Sea of Thieves, even using the text wheel instead of the voice chat like some people do. Sometimes I also like to just hear the game and not people talking. And yes, online on Xbox One is light years ahead of anything Nintendo.

You are a master of Mario Kart 8, to be honest I haven't tried 200cc much, so perhaps I should. I prefer older Mario Kart games though. I miss more content for single player and, as you said, online mode is bare-bones. And driving is boring compared to Double Dash!! and Super Mario Kart, my favourite entries.

Don't believe @NEStalgia, Xenoblade Chronicles is frustrating as hell. I forgot to mention the huge dynamic numbers for damage done and received for each party member and each enemy that overlap command prompts and enemies. It's a total mess. And, no, gameplay is not easy. Simple perhaps, but not easy, you die and it's not even your fault 90% of the times. The only way to compensate this is over-grinding in a game that already pesters you with grinding. He admitted that some combat styles are not properly explained. He mentioned "autopilot", which can be translated to "how stupid AI can ruin your battles" because you have to play with three characters and control one. I could go on and go on but I'd fall asleep. I haven't played X or 2 so I don't know if they are technically better, story aside.

This is the best thing you've ever written. I like Nintendo Life but I think I have over 20 ignored users. Some people here are nut.

Please stop. You are making sense now.

I disagree. Part of the magic is playing with people that have more or less experience than you. Experience doesn't really matter in this game. I prefer a good player who is new than an experience player who is not nice. The filter I have seen is I see that you are not legendary and I quit, but some legendary players have helped me a lot not asking for anything in return, that is nice.

When I played Monster Hunter Tri I was one of the best players because I played that game so much and I didn't mind helping other people that were a lower level, in that game level matters but also there was matchmaking by range of levels.

@Banjos_Backpack

Yes, it is hard, but I also got the 3 stars on all Mario Kart games on every cup (and mission), except 200cc in Mario Kart 8. I am proud of that and I haven't played 200cc much anyway. However playing online I realise I don't use all the shortcuts that people use.

I have to admit that Fortnite is full of children and teenagers, I ALWAYS feel like a big brother and have to say things like "behave", "watch your mouth", etc. I don't think I've ever played with someone over 16 on there, although I know they play, they probably pretend to not have a headset. The funny thing is that I only started playing because I became a friend of a Sea of Thieves player that invited me to play Fortnite and that was recently when the season 5 had already started.

So, Xbox... LOL

By the way, when are you going to get an Xbox One or Xbox Two for Rare Replay and company?

@Banjos_Backpack So you have an HDR TV and a Rare Replay digital copy courtesy of Microsoft for watching E3 on Mixer... Oh, those things -and Sea of Thieves- are crying out for an X!

I also suspect that sports people and young actors are paid for mentioning Fortnite, because I can't believe they genuinely post on Twitter "I am going to play Fortnite at 20pm, join me!". Not that I use Twitter much but I have read that and it's a bit weird. However I like when they do the Fortnite dances because they are joyful and funny.

I will let you know how I deal with 200cc...

@Banjos_Backpack

I went EGX gameshow this week and was given two emblem codes for Destiny 2.

No use to me, does anyone want them?

Damn, Forza Horizon 4 is sitting at 92 on metacritic. Even higher than the last one.

That series are the best exclusives Xbox has at the moment.

@NEStalgia Change your statement from "my point was to argue the business case for it (medium to long term)" to "my point was to argue the business case for it (short to medium term)", and we have a deal.
No full term coattail riding of S and X, where Scarlett is concerned. I just can't see that happening, in any scenario, unless Microsoft wants another dent in its armor...

Now THERE's something we can fully agree on, Captain Text Wall...

@dew12333 Any idea what they're good for? I might just be interested.

@Dezzy Nice numbers, and most definitely deserved, from what we've seen and heard so far, and yes, definitely one of the better (if not must-have) series on the Xbox.

@DarthNocturnal I see what you mean.

@ThanosReXXX
They appear to be in game emblems, it says that once you have entered the code on bungie.net/redeem then "your reward will be available from the emblem collection of the vault"

Hope that helps, and I have two of them.

@dew12333 So, they're kinda like a loot box? No way of knowing beforehand what's in there?
(or in this case, what the emblems do or give)
Think I'll pass then, since I'm not playing that much anymore, so probably better to give them to someone who will make better use of them.

Nice of you to offer things to other people on here, though.

@dew12333 I might be picking up Forsaken for X1 after the Sony freebie tempted me but doesn't include the new stuff, but undecided yet. Oh well (Then again the existence of "emblem codes" scares me away from wanting to try )

@ThanosReXXX BTW, I'll take a raincheck on the rest of the debate, limited time for a big essay for today

@Banjo & Blue LOL! You guys had me laughing so hard on the voice chat comments! Also, Xenoblade is polarizing but if it clicks, it clicks. It's trial and error, but don't listen to Blue about Xenoblade. He has excellent taste in controller ergonomics but terrible taste in games He doesn't even like "those single-player Japanese games!"

@NEStalgia Or just bury that rain check. At this point, we're more or less going around in circles concerning certain points, and if you cross off the parts that we do agree on, then there's still one or two things left, that we just see differently, so I guess it's better to agree to disagree on those, for now, and let time tell who's business instinct was actually right all along.

So, without further ado, bye bye discussion, and time for ThanosReXXX's latest "I'm not going to spend any more money on consoles, because reasons" update:

I finally caved after constantly being harassed by my Xbox One about the storage space shortage, and it has come to such a point that it annoyed me so much, that I've decided to make one more purchase (yeah, right... ) and I bought this little gizmo:
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Game-Drive-Xbox-Special/dp/B07...

@ThanosReXXX Aww, and I had a whole itinerary of MS's overall business model and trajectory and how it would all tie in so nicely and that they're not really selling the boxes, they're selling the environment, and in MS's current strategy making all XBoxes just "XBox" would really be the only way they'd stay in step with the rest of the company's plans. Bah well. I have, what, 2 years? I'm still hanging onto that view for a while. It makes sense, and I currently "get" the current Microsoft (something I never thought I'd say ).

Nifty on the HDD. I actually have a "non-official" 2.5" on the other 1X in the house (a WD). I keep a few of those around (one on the PS4Pro as well), but it's been acting up recently, and I suspect it's the cause of my weird "games don't run until I reboot sometimes" thing on there since it still spins even when I force power down when that happens. So the other day I had to do that....disconnected it, connected it again and 3TB of my games were missing. I was NOT happy. I had to end up ordering another drive (this time a 3.5" 7200RPM one and enclosure to match my other unit. Needs external power, but I've found I can download at 250-300Mb/s with those versue 25Mb/s or so with the USB powered one (only matters if you have fancy internet.) I was planning on doing that someday, but not now until the corrupt/damaged drive made me do it.

And then I disovered I'm a moron and the original drive was fine...I accidentally grabbed my OTHER one that was also formatted for XBox and had a few games on it and plugged that in after I had to disconnect the other one to reset it.......I bought the new one sooner than I wanted for no reason Oh well, I needed some backups as well.....

Ironic you'd buy yours at the same time