This whole debacle really makes me hope that the rest of what the PS4 has in store is positive
If these policies stick, all Sony has to do is say they're not doing these things, go home, and they win. But the games presentation is worst case for Sony, a draw. There's no realistic rabbit out of the hat for Microsoft. Some will like Sony's, some will like Microsoft's. Meanwhile, Nintendo is in the corner feeding their loyal base the meat they've been looking for.
X1 just might do ok with a different kind of group.
Son won't have won because they've said that if they weren't to do it themselves then they'll allow pubs to choose what to do which will make it a moot point,. I mean Destiny was at the PS4 conference and that game is confirmed online despite any console systems in place.
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@Jaz007
Actually, I just got an email from Microsoft about Xbox One today. It says your game will resume when powering back on, too. They also confirmed cloud support, so ya.
I don't know if that includes playing for a friend, but the rest is confirmed. You can assumably play games while on the internet, too.
BTW, PS4 only uses like 10-20mb of faster RAM, the rest is identical to Xbox One. That GDDR5 RAM or whatever costs over a grand if you buy even 1GB. The 10mb or so GDDR5 RAM is most likely used to enhance the GPU to level up to Xbox One's faster CPUs without 10MB of GDDR5 RAM. Faster RAM is definitely a plus, but the way it's used won't enhance anything over Xbox One.
@Jaz007
Actually, I just got an email from Microsoft about Xbox One today. It says your game will resume when powering back on, too. They also confirmed cloud support, so ya.
I don't know if that includes playing for a friend, but the rest is confirmed. You can assumably play games while on the internet, too.
BTW, PS4 only uses like 10-20mb of faster RAM, the rest is identical to Xbox One. That GDDR5 RAM or whatever costs over a grand if you buy even 1GB. The 10mb or so GDDR5 RAM is most likely used to enhance the GPU to level up to Xbox One's faster CPUs without 10MB of GDDR5 RAM. Faster RAM is definitely a plus, but the way it's used won't enhance anything over Xbox One.
Where did you find out that Xbox One has faster CPU? I've looked at comparisons and they didn't say Xbox had faster CPU.
@Jaz007
Actually, I just got an email from Microsoft about Xbox One today. It says your game will resume when powering back on, too. They also confirmed cloud support, so ya.
I don't know if that includes playing for a friend, but the rest is confirmed. You can assumably play games while on the internet, too.
BTW, PS4 only uses like 10-20mb of faster RAM, the rest is identical to Xbox One. That GDDR5 RAM or whatever costs over a grand if you buy even 1GB. The 10mb or so GDDR5 RAM is most likely used to enhance the GPU to level up to Xbox One's faster CPUs without 10MB of GDDR5 RAM. Faster RAM is definitely a plus, but the way it's used won't enhance anything over Xbox One.
Where did you find out that Xbox One has faster CPU? I've looked at comparisons and they didn't say Xbox had faster CPU.
It doesn't say officially, but the use of GDDR5 RAM in any form without any improvement in comparison to a GDDR3 based console confirms that a stronger CPU is in Xbox One. They most likely used the GDDR5 RAM to enhance the GPU performance of the PS4 to match the XBox One's performance of GDDR3 RAM, coupled with their respective CPUs. That would mean PS4 used other means to equal the CPU power of XBox One, without actually using the CPU, and relying on other components to do so.
This whole debacle really makes me hope that the rest of what the PS4 has in store is positive
If these policies stick, all Sony has to do is say they're not doing these things, go home, and they win. But the games presentation is worst case for Sony, a draw. There's no realistic rabbit out of the hat for Microsoft. Some will like Sony's, some will like Microsoft's. Meanwhile, Nintendo is in the corner feeding their loyal base the meat they've been looking for.
X1 just might do ok with a different kind of group.
Son won't have won because they've said that if they weren't to do it themselves then they'll allow pubs to choose what to do which will make it a moot point,. I mean Destiny was at the PS4 conference and that game is confirmed online despite any console systems in place.
Maybe you shouldn't use an MMO as your example. Those (and the like) have already been online only this gen.
It doesn't say officially, but the use of GDDR5 RAM in any form without any improvement in comparison to a GDDR3 based console confirms that a stronger CPU is in Xbox One. They most likely used the GDDR5 RAM to enhance the GPU performance of the PS4 to match the XBox One's performance of GDDR3 RAM, coupled with their respective CPUs. That would mean PS4 used other means to equal the CPU power of XBox One, without actually using the CPU, and relying on other components to do so.
Because unlike Nintendo and Sony 400 million isn't much to Microsoft. They had an income of 6 billion last quarter. Also this deal is for five years and puts microsoft technology all over the NFL and sidelines. The deal also keeps NFL from any other console on the market which a big marketing feature. THs deal effects both microsoft and NFL all over and not just the xbox. This deal is a pretty smart investment and puts micorosft at the ground floor as the NFL starts to add more technology to the game like MLS and MLB have been doing. They also gain a huge marketing Partner from America's most popular sport .
But yes Listen to the gaming site with such a narrow view they can't see how breaking into the ground floor of a new Market segment with one of the world's biggest brands exclusive to your hardware is a good thing.
For what return though? What advantage does this give Microsoft? Sure they can afford it...but WHY?! This will only support them in the US market while the rest of the world couldn't care less about this big partnership
Gets them a selling point for a Market they probably won't need any help with. (America is xboxland afterall). However getting Microsoft products into the NFL for coaches and becoming the communication Partner for a field who barley uses tech is a big deal for the company as whole. I'd argue the xbox stuff is more of an added bonus from the company's standpoint but could be massive for the American Market. If microsoft were to offer this functionality for the MLB or MLS than it would be a big deal in my book. The surface and microsoft technologies are all over the field and irrc Microsoft would get a cut when ever they're products are featured and being in the hands of coaches its alot of exposure.
The biggest gain as far as the Xbox goes is the Marketing is exclusive content (Videos and other stuff for Hardcore sports fans) as well as The One being the Official Game console of the NFL. The season starts in september and gives microsoft alot of Marketing for two months by the NFL. In context i you buy t makes the EA partnership look exciting in the same way.
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For GPU uses. The ammount of GDRR5 RAM in PS4 determines how much stronger the CPU is in the Xbox One. For as much as the PS4 will most likely cost, $225 would only get you 2GB of GDDR5 RAM combined with an appropriate graphics card.
So, the PS4 gets as good of performance as Xbox One with about .5GB(1GB at most) of GDDR5 RAM, while Xbox One uses 8GB of GDDR3 RAM. The only way it would be possible to use 8GB of GDDR3 RAM vs. .5GB GDDR5 + 7.5GB GDDR3 RAM, is if the CPU is stronger.
All this talk about faster and better CPUs and GPUs, screw that. I get videogames systems to have fun and play VIDEOGAMES.
Stop your bickering, good lord.
All this talk about faster and better CPUs and GPUs, screw that. I get videogames systems to have fun and play VIDEOGAMES.
Stop your bickering, good lord.
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I still need to make one for Knack.
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All this talk about faster and better CPUs and GPUs, screw that. I get videogames systems to have fun and play VIDEOGAMES.
Stop your bickering, good lord.
My Man!
I still need to make one for Knack.
So what you're saying is you want to re-enforce the stereotype of the best looking games having boring aesthetic and existing for the sake of trailers that show little to no gameplay. Ok.
Nah brah just two upcoming next gen games that look interesting to me so I decided to gif them. Hawkeye said consoles should be all about the games and I agree.
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All this talk about faster and better CPUs and GPUs, screw that. I get videogames systems to have fun and play VIDEOGAMES.
Stop your bickering, good lord.
Agreed wholeheartedly.
But you do realize you are asking the impossible, aka telling the Internet people to stop arguing and just enjoy whatever it is they are arguing about.
Nah brah just two upcoming next gen games that look interesting to me so I decided to gif them. Hawkeye said consoles should be all about the games and I agree.
Oh...
...good. I have nothing else to add beyond saying "good".
For GPU uses. The ammount of GDRR5 RAM in PS4 determines how much stronger the CPU is in the Xbox One. For as much as the PS4 will most likely cost, $225 would only get you 2GB of GDDR5 RAM combined with an appropriate graphics card.
So, the PS4 gets as good of performance as Xbox One with about .5GB(1GB at most) of GDDR5 RAM, while Xbox One uses 8GB of GDDR3 RAM. The only way it would be possible to use 8GB of GDDR3 RAM vs. .5GB GDDR5 + 7.5GB GDDR3 RAM, is if the CPU is stronger.
Those links proves it will have good GPU, it doesn't prove anything about the CPU being weaker. There is no proof here to back up your claims.
The PS3 was more powerful than anything else and still, it couldnt be used. The architecture was so archaic, that even first party devs wernt sure how to use it. Console hardware means absolutely nothing. A Wii can have Xenoblade with a scale, many people would have thought it would be impossible on an "outdated system". Final Fantsy XIII ran on the 360, it was also called impossible at first. Its completely up to the developer itself. You can buil "rocket science" into a gaming console, to make it the best and fastest thing possible...and no dev knows how to use it. At the end of the day, your high tech stuff was completely useless since all you get are the same mediocre games devs nowadays know how to make. New, innovative games come from creativity, talent and the way HOW you play it, not from powerful CPUs, GPUs and whatnot.
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