Topic: Why people aren't respecting Nintendo?

I don't respect Nintendo because they don't respect me all their anti-consumer policies are very insulting..... that said I still gave them lots of money on my 3DS and tons of games because the thing is just that awesome

What about FPS games that are a lot from Sony and Microsoft? They also don't have much of variety here.

Sony is region free and has countless japanese games.
Sony also has platformers and some(not many) kid friendly games.
Microsoft..................... point taken for XBox but PC has a lot of variety.

Actually FPS games can be extremely varied, in no way shape or form does Dues Ex HR play like Portal for example, FPS games normally combine other genre's into the mix to well mix things up basically.

I'm not familiar with Microsoft's lineup but on the PS3 there is lot of variety they have more than Nintendo of every genre other than platformers or party games...... I think they bit Nintendo on variety only with third party games and that's without counting Sony first party output which you may not think is as good as Nintendo but its clearly more varied.

@ferthepoet for someone who doesn't respect Nintendo you're being pretty polite

Sony only has Killzone and Resistance, Microsoft has Halo and Gears of War, the rest are 3rd-party. There are a lot of shooters but theres also a lot of other stuff as well.

With the Wii for ever Fire Emblem or Metroid we got 2-3 Wii-series, Mario, or some other Mass-appeal game. Two out of 3 Pokemon games for it were in-fact mini-game compilations, they were made to be as kiddie and casual as Pokemon gets. The Wii U isn't looking to do much better. Most of their releases have been these same type of games that over-whelmed the rest of the Wii's library.

Same can be said for Platform games as well.

First of all, While I agree that Nintendo has lots of platform games, they do have a lot of other genres too such as RPG, Adventure and puzzle. They just did Steel Diver: Sub Wars so isn't that good enough for you?

I assure you that if Sony were first party devs, they would do the same thing that Nintendo does. Since Sony relies on third party devs more than anything else, Sony has to make it region free.

Also you say that Sony has countless Japanese games........umm......so Nintendo doesn't because they don't have many devs to make games for them despite the huge install base the 3DS has?

I'll agree that PC is the easiest way of gaming but even PC is slowly dying out even with Steam.

@ArtWark Sony has a lot of quality first-party developers. In fact, Sony's first-party is so good that it rivals Nintendo's first-party. Their games have a lot of variety too.

Who me? I've had no desire to play it even though its free so couldn't fairly comment on it, sounds mildly more interesting to me than the billionth Mario plastered over whatever game is due next, but I wouldn't claim to be jumping up for joy that nintendo decided to experiment with free to play mini games amongst a tidal wave of Mario, Mario and more Mario though, though the fact those sell shows there's a hell of a lot of people out there more than content with the situation which is fine for them, not so good for the rest of us though.

@Artwark the difference, once again is that Sony is region free, many games never get Localized but you still can have them.
and believe me, 90% of the japanese games never get released out of Japan.

@Artwark region locking exist for price gouging, it exists to protect Japanese sellers from competition from cheaper European and N.A imports and to protect European and Australian sellers from competition from cheaper U.S....... Imports but the thing is not working for Nintendo at least here in Australia.... you'll think retailers woudl strongly support the Wii U because of its region lock, but no Wii U shelf space in Australian retailers is almost non-existant.... why.... it doesn't sell........ retailers still prefer a console that sells even if its region free than a region locked one that doesn't sell.... and region lock is one of the reasons puts many people off NIntendo console....... If you buy a PS4 and want Second Son at launch you can buy it for $100 at a local Australian retailer or get a US PSN cash card online and get the game from the U.S. PS Store at $60.... On the Wii U your choice is buying 3D World for $100 at launch from Australian local retailer or Change the region of your system to the European Eshop and get it for about $80...... Region lock makes Nintendo games much more expensive than the competion

maybe he got things mixed up, desktops are dying because it's not as profitable as a laptop, you can just buy new parts to cover what breaks or gets underpowered. in laptops you have to buy a whole new laptop at a higher price.
but PC gaming, it's here to stay.

@Artwark Most Nintendo first party games follow this conventions: Graphics are cartoony, Protagonist is silent or have very little dialogue and has no clear personality and no clear motivations for doing what they do, story is of the excuse plot variety (only fire emblem game have a little bit of story and they are still light on story for their genre), I'm not saying those things are bad, but when you have no third party support the lack of games with realistic graphics and story driven games really shows........

While that maybe true, it also isn't as critical as what Nintendo games are. Atleast with Nintendo, they experiment a lot but Sony just doesn't do that. Infact most of the PS4 and Vita features are just useless and don't have much of a selling point.

Same can be said for Sony. Most are realistic big time and have that same gameplay aspect.

Seriously, there are only four of the New Super Mario Bros games out of which only one of them isn't that great.

Most but not all there are plenty of Cartoony games (Little Big Planet, R & C, Sly Cooper, All Stars) while Nintendo does not have a single first party realistic looking game..

Metroid........ Also there's Eternal Darkness.

The fact that both of your examples are from the previous generation years ago (ED was actually Gamecube, if I recall) should tell you something.

Well my friend, it's a great many things compounding upon one another. Firstly, it all stems back to when Nintendo saved the gaming industry. Rather odd yes, but every time people talk of why Nintendo are where they are today in a negative sense, they harken back to the olden days when they were so "mean" and acted like "dictators" to the gaming publishers. See people love to repeat the publishers complaints about those days, but really, when one looks at their actions objectively and not from them, a more clear picture can be seen. The publishers were killing themselves and Nintendo wanted to actually make money with their console, so they set up rules that were akin to making a child eat their vegetables, exercise and do their homework. It seemed a little cruel or mean, until one stops and considers the quality of games that were released back in the day. Not all were fantastic, but it's called the golden age of gaming for a reason.

Next we have a cast of people repeating that Nintendo has kiddie games or that they don't have mature games when really people mean they don't have a large selection of very violent games to appear on their console. You see, people equate violence with maturity. However, Nintendo has games like Majora's Mask(a game pretty much centered around the aspects of death), you have Dark Matter in Kirby games which transforms into hellish demonic forms at times, the Metroid Prime series, and 999. Maturity is actually about restraint, discipline, and control. One could actually say platformers are the ultimate mature game as they're generally about learning the mechanics then mastering them. People also attribute colors for something childish or "kiddie" when the actual world outside is quite vibrant and colorful when one doesn't look in a city for said color. Even then, the color is not gaudy, or improperly applied, but the fact that the color is so prominent people attribute it to something immature.

Next we have people saying that they are not graphically powerful and that that is important for a game. We have plenty of designers and publishers praising SonySoft for the gigaflops and graphics cards and even Nomura talking about how much more he has to work on KH3 because of all the possibilities open to him. These people who demand to be called artists, the fans who blindly call them artists, fail to see or even understand that great works can be made with anything. In fact, generally the best work comes from restriction rather than from freedom. It is through restrictions that innovation must occur and where Nintendo stands king. However, people relegate innovation to ugly terms like gimmicks and say innovation should not occur without the developers asking for it, rather than chiding the developers lack of vision or ambition to make use of a mechanic in a way that is not gimmicky.

Last generation people became effusive with the concept that it was horrible for Nintendo to dare to offer the fun of gaming to people why never would have considered picking up a console before the Wii. People took the motion controls the Wii offered and scoffed at them, relegating them to gimmicky controls and started throwing terms like "hardcore" or "core gamers" around to place themselves on a pedestal above people who had come to learn that playing games isn't creepy or weird, but actually fun. Rather than inviting these new gamers into the fold with open arms, people latched onto the paranoid idea that Nintendo had abandoned them, when they only sought to invite more into the gaming sphere.

People like to talk about the 3DS and WiiU gaming drought in their first year while not recalling that this was to give third party developers time to make games for their consoles. People forget the praise and adoration lauded on them by EA in 2010 and blame Nintendo for EA reneging on the promised support. People blame Nintendo for third party publishers complaining that they can't compete with Nintendo's first parties, then not releasing anything when there is no first party to compete with.

Fankly people disrespect Nintendo because they are parroting sheep. They allow themselves to believe that they, a simple consumer, would know more about business than the people who moved from a card company into video games and made a consistent profit for roughly 30 years yet still, unlike Sony who is only three generations old, still does something new with every successor to it's console. Even when the GameCube didn't end as popular as the PS2, Nintendo still tried something different. Even though they are the ones who have been slapped in the face by third parties whom are thankful to them for their current existence (Square & Capcom most especially) they still offer them a friendly hand and smile.

People disrespect Nintendo, because Nintendo respects people. People are hardwired to look down on modesty, kindness, or integrity, especially those with Western values. Patience is laziness or cowardice. Failure to immediately react the expected way and you're weird or stupid. Failure to conform to conventions and to succeed while doing so, annoys and angers people, and they would rather vote on the safe bet rather than the risky one. People much more prefer to sound right and be wrong, rather than to sound wrong and be right.