@Dezzy@Grumblevolcano Yeah. There will be a few people that do that. But that's going to be fairly uncommon in the overall scheme of things. Auto-renew is the standard and everyone is used to it from music, tv, movie, and other subscription services. It's just how people sign up and subscribe in general. Most will keep it subscribed.
But the other part of that is why their games are the way they are and what kind of content they want on there so that you want to keep subscribing. It's not a static library. It's an ever-changing shelf of games, so they're counting on, this month you subscribed for some Forza, hey look, next week RDR2 is coming and I haven't played it, I guess I'll renew...oh loook, the month after that it's DMC V SE....wanted to try that, for $15 I guess I'll renew.... Not to mention Flight Sim, Halo Infinite, SoT, the Bethesda tames are long time suck multi-month unending games.....so you'll want to subscribe to keep playing all of them. And while you subscribe y ouget discounts on games and DLC etc....
So yeah, some people will do what you do and it's great if you can. But most people subscribe with auto renwals....because that's how subscriptions work. And beyond that they are very intentionally creating constant value through new offerings and very large extended play games that make people want to keep subscribing. I don't think your pricing is at all common.
@Grumblevolcano it's not so much about people who forget to turn of auto renew so much as feeling like you're not sure you want to lose out. I've been auto-renewing a year on Spoify which I never use because I also got the Hulu bundle out of it, and if I cancel I lose 2 services I never use that would cost more if I tried to get it again They created value that makes me keep paying even if I shouldn't. Subs are a triple edged sword.
Welp there we go. Sony's next iteration of the PS Store for web/mobile devices will remove the ability to purchase games/content from the PSP, PS3 and PS Vita, leaving just PS4 and PS5 games.
I understand the first two platforms but it's crazy Vita support is being gutted as well considering it's an 8th gen console just like the PS4 and 3DS
The storefronts on the Vita/PS3 will still be up but to my knowledge the PSP Store was taken down like 4 years ago so now for game collecting and stuff, you're going to have to go all physical if you're buying solely for your PSP and not for your Vita
I'm glad I grabbed everything I wanted physically for the Vita over the past couple years. Those Vita games that haven't been ported to PS4 or Switch will probably trend upwards in demand. I'm glad Ciel Nosurge and Ar Nosurge were recently announced for Switch. The reseller asking price for an English copy of Ar No Surge on Vita is...yikes.
Switch Physical Collection - 1,540 games (as of January 28th, 2026)
Switch 2 Physical Collection - 4 games (as of December 8th, 2025)
Apparently you can still buy things on a PS3, but this worries me enough that I'm probably gonna start buying things much more quickly from the PS3 store soon, in case they decided to end it anytime soon. I don't think it will but better to be safe than sorry.
I mostly got a PS3 to be a retro Playstation download machine, but I've been very slow to download things on it because of...everything else in gaming.
I'm really wondering what sonys pr strategy is at this point. The weaker console for the same price that they wanted to charge even more for. We'll charge you more for games. We won't update your games for new hardware. We'll charge you again for updates we do make. We have bc. Kinda prolly. For most games. Only last gen. Not anything before that. Were killing the store for anything not in bc. We just want you to pump full rrp into new products only and will more or less disable your old stuff. We landed on an oddly specific non standard storage size for reasons. You can expand it to any third party nebulously defined standard drive. Japan is not welcome on our console. We told them so already. We'll just put light beams on it. Anime is banned. Oh, and play has no limits so on and so forth.
Meanwhile ms is like all gens are current gen, play everything, everything is enhanced, storage is an open spec and easy to use, here have cheap games, sub games, free games, just play everything. Take the box, pay for it later, we don't care! Free months anime subscriptions! Free ea subscriptions! Grab some cheap old games on your way out the door and well run them all at 4k60 and add hdr for lulz!
There's so much debate about which Machine will run games at native 4k with steady 60fps, but against that backdrop, i think that's the side story. The real story is Sony is practically taunting that they operate a terrible platform that doesn't respect customers purchases and they not only don't intend to change that, they intend to further reduce value. Even if the box runs games smoother or prettier at some point, youd have to be nuts to buy any game on their current idea of a platform that your have an option of buying elsewhere. It's the console equivalent of the epic games store. Why buy there if you could buy from steam or gog? You just buy the exclusives because you must. There's plenty of exclusive content that makes the box worthwhile, but as a platform, it's like nintendos 80s twin. Well, it literally is Nintendo's 90s twin.....
I honestly expected this gen would be both companies fighting each other to be customer friendly is pc-ify their platform. Sony's the company that let you install Linux on a ps3 after all. I have noooo idea what Sony's strategy is. Is like they assume the incoming customers will so be new PlayStation customers like last time. Even though they're the market leader by far.
@NEStalgia It helps your argument if you don't rattle off trivial things.
I think the power disparity is joke argument at this point. It hardly mattered for the PS4 and Xbox One. Yes, there were small differences, but they looked mostly the same. Now the relative differences are even smaller, and with diminishing returns, you will hardly notice it. It has a better SSD to make up for the price. And considering the tech in the new controller, I think it's worth the same if not more than Series X (which doesn't even have gyro to this day). Unless we see games running at a noticeable lower resolution or framerate, this isn't something I'd worry about.
The whole industry is moving towards a higher MSRP for games.
BC for PS4 is there. It works with most games (i.e. 99+%). Every BC system has a few games that aren't compatible for some reason. This was the case on the Wii with GCN games, certain PS1 games weren't playable on PS2/PS3 for some reason, etc.
And the PS Store is still online, they only removed the browser functionality. I've heard it causes some issues for PS Vita, but it was inevitable. You can still buy anything you want on the PS3 store. I've never used the browser store for PlayStation, so this won't affect me at all.
Again, this is why we should never allow companies to be too successful. Because Sony succeeded wildly this gen and Xbox didn't. So look what Xbox is offering vs Playstation.
I also don't think its a huge deal necessarily, but it is enough that people are noticing. I kind of agree with the theory I've heard lately that PS5 will be the winner...at first. But in the long term, Xbox Series X and its stupid name might pull ahead, either as a console or as a service.
That being said, Playstation has still done a better job of showcasing games that look interesting to me and/or have some immediate hype towards them.
@NEStalgia It helps your argument if you don't rattle off trivial things.
Makes for an entertaining read though, thanks @NEStalgia - I love your posts 🤗
And it does roughly translate to how a lot of people seem to currently be perceiving the two next-gen offerings. If XSX controllers had gyro then I would seriously be considering early adoption, especially if there was a way of applying gyro controls to BC games.
Microsoft are doing what I wondered whether Nintendo might be forced into doing after Wii U. But it turns out Nintendo still had some creativity that was worth a dime, so the brute force tactic wasn't necessary.
That being said, Playstation has still done a better job of showcasing games that look interesting to me and/or have some immediate hype towards them.
It's the main reason I've pre-ordered a PS5. Ratchet & Clank, Horizon Forbidden West, GT7, God of War possibly all within a year is just a great line-up.
Don't get me wrong. Microsoft isn't doing too bad either. Everwild looks interesting, but when Rare isn't even sure of what the game is, it's going to be a while till it comes out. Same with Fable and Avowed. With Halo Infinite delayed, there isn't much to look forward to, and it was quite a typical first showcase; i.e. a bunch of games that may or may not take a long time to come out. Most platform holders have done this at some point, so I don't blame them for that, but it does mean I don't need a Series X right away.
If anything, I'm actually quite surprised with Sony's line-up. Even if God of War is pushed into early 2022, that's still a stellar first year. But the fact that they were willing to attach the ''2021'' release date to it, means it's not too far off.
Their launch year is miles better than the PS4 in its first TWO years I'd say. Demon's Souls, Miles Morales, Sackboy, and Godfall as launch games isn't bad either. I'm not necessarily interested in all the launch games, but I will pick up Miles Morales, because I enjoyed Spider-Man quite a lot. Kena looks promising as well, but that got pushed into early 2021 unfortunately.
I'm was always getting a next gen console to play Cyberpunk on. PS5 has more games to look forward to in the short term, and they've had stellar games on the PS4. So it feels like a safe purchase to me.
@gcunit I feel the main lesson Nintendo learned from the Wii U is that for a HD console without old games (ports/remasters/remakes) the lineup becomes barren very quickly. For the Switch both 2018 and 2020 had very few 1st party games that weren't old games.
I think part of the "Xbox has no games" narrative for most of the XB1 generation comes from Microsoft's decision to bring your old games over for free and enhance them (backwards compatibility and for next gen there's smart delivery) instead of releasing lots of $60 ports/remasters/remakes to fill in the large gaps between new games.
With the Playstation web and mobile stores being just PS4 and PS5 games within weeks, I think Sony's going to shut down the PS3/PSP/Vita servers in 2021 and then release a load of PS3 remasters/remakes for PS5.
@Grumblevolcano How many good first party games from the PS3 are left? Uncharted and The Last of Us are already playable on PS5 through PS4 BC. There's no point in bringing games like NBA, Gran Turismo or Golf over. Better versions already exist on PS4/5. LBP will probably feel dated at this point. I don't see the point in remastering that. And considering the response to God of War 3 Remastered in the PS4, I don't think many are waiting for random PS3 games to be ported over. Killzone? Nah. Infamous? Maybe? Ratchet & Clank? Eh?
@Octane Well Demon's Souls is getting a remake (a 3rd party PS3 exclusive) so we're probably also looking at 3rd party PS3 exclusives in general like MGS4.
@Grumblevolcano Demon's Souls isn't third party. Sony owns the Demon's Souls (and Bloodborne) IP. Both games were made by Japan Studio in collaboration with From Software.
Speaking of exclusives when people start talking about what the best PS5 games are could we please not have PS4 Remasters referred to as PS5 games? I hated when someone made a video or list of the best PS4 games and included stuff like last of US or any other PS3 game brought to PS4.
If it's not exclusive to that system it's not a PS4 game!
@Zeldafan79 Depends. If they are ranking ''exclusives'', then it doesn't really make sense to include a remaster. But if they're just talking about ''best PS5 games'', I don't see the issue. Can't Assassin's Creed: Valhalla be on that list because it's also on PS4, Xbox, and PC?
@Octane Sony's regurgitating Spider-Man for $60, when there's far, far less call for it than Nintendo's Wii U ports.
Also, I don't think the power difference between PS5/XSeX is negligible, really, when you're paying the same price for the devices. It wasn't negligible this gen, with Xbox One games consistently seeing worse display resolutions than their PS4 versions, and, as far as I understand it, the power difference was less pronounced this gen. Of course, it remains to be seen how this actually stacks up, but it's more likely that XSeX runs third party games better more consistently than PS5.
Additionally, you have:
A far better approach to backwards compatibility
GamePass, which Sony doesn't really have a good answer to, will see releases of all Microsoft's first party stuff in addition to a ton of notable third party content
Paid remasters of older first-party games on PS5 vs. free smart delivery upgrades for all Xbox first-party content
PS4 also had a virtual monopoly on a lot of big Japanese game releases at the beginning of the gen, but things are very different now. Final Fantasy, Yakuza, NieR, Ys, Trails, Dragon Quest, etc. all release on other platforms as well. Many of them are going to the Xbox, and nearly everything releases on PC now.
PS5 has also utterly lost out on a lot of smaller Japanese developers and titles with their weird embrace of censorship.
I think, by the end of the generation, PS5 will likely be the better console in terms of exclusives, but the price disparity between XSeX and PS5 if you want to keep current with their games is going to be huge.
So, PS5 is a better immediate buy if you care deeply about Sony's third party content, I guess. But that's true by default. I don't disagree that the PS5 has a better planned first-year lineup than PS4, although it hurts it for me that so many of its first-party games are cross-generation.
@Ralizah I'll have to see two games running side by side, but I don't think it's going to be a big difference.
Also, Spider-Man isn't really $60. Spider-Man: Miles Morales is $50, and if you get the ultimate edition, it comes with Spider-Man: Remastered for $70. Likewise, if you buy MM on PS4 and upgrade to PS5, you can buy Spider-Man: Remastered digitally for $20. So it's really a $20 remaster, and they've allegedly overhauled the map with better quality models, textures, new face models and a bunch of other stuff.
Now, I personally don't think this was the right choice, they should've only upped the resolution and offered it as a free upgrade, so they should've put less work into it in that case. But it's not $60. $20 at most. And it's more of a bonus to those who haven't played Spider-Man yet. I think I understand what they were going for, they just didn't get the reception as expected. It's probably the reason why they didn't lead their show with this, but was revealed later in a blog post.
I think Sony is dropping the ball a bit with PlayStation Now. Filthy casuals seem to think that it's just a streaming service. In actuality you have access to several hundred PS4 games you can download to your console, just like MS's Game Pass Ultimate. The problem is...I feel I see MS pimping GPU really hard while PS Now gets little to no mention from Sony, it's weird.
MS - "Gain access to over a hundred games day-one on Series X with Game Pass Ultimate."
Sony - "..." crickets (We give you access to several hundred games day-one on PS5 with PS Now but we don't like to point that out.)
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