Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@BLP_Software Genuinely got nothing to say to that lol

@Mellor2000 Woo i killed it! I was wondering how long we could do that.

I do genuinely hate the teraflop waving that people do though. Keep it under wraps no one is impressed.

@BLP_Software it's a weird one isn't it. I judge systems on how compelling the games are on it. Start throwing statistics at me and I switch off.

@Mellor2000 My thing is not only does it not matter depending on who made the chips, as both AMD and Nvidia run differently, its just literal wingwang waving.

Was telling my Xbox owning mate about the HD rumble and he said it sounds alright but is nothing that interests him. I then reminded him of how much he went on about the rumble triggers on his One.He said something along these lines at the time "it's amazing. It's hard to explain what I mean though, you need to try it for yourself to find out."

Why do some find it so hard to believe Nintendo can do something that's better than the others. They always seem to conveniently forget the Sony or Microsoft controller they're holding has Nintendo's "gimmicks" all over it. No doubt the Scorpio will have something like 4k rumble and my pal will be telling me how it's a game changer. That reminds me, he also told me backwards compatibility on his One is a "game changer". Then I informed him that the Wii and DS already had that years ago.

Even as a Nintendo only gamer, I still keep up with what's happening on the others and I'm not ignorant to what they bring to the industry. But it doesn't seem like PS or Xbox only gamers do the same with Nintendo,they're irrelevant to them.

I see this thread took a very silly turn in the last page. I'm guessing there's not much left to discuss about the switch if we're resorting to starting false, needlessly mocking arguments

Ah, we've reached that time of the week again. The assumption that non-Nintendo gamers only care about "TFLOPs" and "graphics". If you truly believe that, than you're just as delusional as that very small minority that indeed does only care about stuff like that.

@Operative2-0 sorry that was my fault I was being facetious. I've never really done forums before but I'm proper excited for the Switch so thought I'd get involved. just serious comments from me from here on in.

@Octane I dont believe it but what I dont believe, even though I respect any view, is that its the only thing that matters. A console is a myriad of things, and one does not make or break it.

As I said this thing couldve had the most teraflops or at least on par with PS4. Problem is its proce wouldve shot up, itd be much bigger and it would also probably melt into your hands but thats actually what people wanted without thinking about it.

Gamers dont account for feasability and the realism of a situation. Which is ironic given gamers love realism.

But hey thats just me, some folks need only power and thats cool. Cant say i get it but its cool.

@BLP_Software I've decided I like you. You're on my wavelength. Congratulations you now have my respect.

@BiasedSonyFan If you could see the individual chlrophyll in a blade of grass id be down. Thats actually cool

@BiasedSonyFan @BLP_Software Well I've got a Black and White CRT TV and I can see the expressions on the individual space invaders faces.

@BiasedSonyFan oh and I've decided I like you too despite your obviously incorrect views. You also have my respect. Congratulations.

@BiasedSonyFan I concur. Something should be viewed on what it is not what it isnt. I cant remember whrre I said this, it may have been regarding Switch even.

@BLP_Software The only time I've seen "complaints" about the power was in regard to third party support. That's a valid argument. If you like COD, this console probably isn't for you, because colour me impressed if this system gets all the COD games. I don't see the issue with that. I haven't seen anyone truly complain about the TFLOPs or whatever you're suggesting. And if you're talking about the trolls in the YouTube comments, they are everywhere, and they're just, well, trolls.

The vast majority of complaints I hear about Nintendo games are about the games themselves, not that they don't have cutting edge graphics. Critiquing the graphics is perfectly valid, though, since it is still an aspect of any game. I myself enjoy some nice visuals. Still, that's just a minor thing, and if that's someone's main complaint about a company's games, they're idiots and can safely be ignored.

Anyone who buys a PS4 or Xbox One for the graphics and not the games is a complete moron, anyway. If someone wants cutting edge graphics, they should get a gaming PC.

@BiasedSonyFan Ask any serious gamer if they want resolution of framerate. A coupe of my friends are big PC gamers, if anything, the only thing I'm hearing them praise about is when games offer a higher framerate at the cost of resolution. It's the same thing I hear online. ''Graphics'' are an easy selling point to your average Joe-don't-know-diddly-squat, but they are far from your typical gamer.

Regardless, I agree with @KirbyTheVampire; Good looking visuals or a high resolution, although not important, are a nice addition. A high level of detail can be beneficial to the immersion in my opinion. I'm definitely not going to scoff a game for looking good.

PC gaming is arguably cheaper than console gaming. You can pay like 500-700 dollars for a PC that can outperform modern consoles. Then once you have the computer fully set up, you really only need to upgrade parts every couple years or so, assuming you care about things like framerate and graphics. Plus, the online is free and the Steam sales are insane. You can get games that are normally full price for a fraction of what it would normally cost. If you have a list of games you want, you can binge-buy them during those sales and save hundreds of dollars. And sure, building a PC takes more know-how than plugging in a console, but it's not impossible to just buy all the parts and pay someone to build it for you. Or just look up how to build one online.

PC gaming is only as expensive as you make it. The price of console gaming is set in stone.

As for the whole gamers who care about graphics over gameplay thing, I really doubt many of those people exist, if any. They might care about visuals more than most, but no real gamer would buy a bad game just because it looks good. There have been plenty of great looking games that bombed hard because they didn't live up to people's expectations in terms of gameplay, and other things not related to visuals or resolution. Nintendo fans especially seem to stereotype non-Nintendo gamers that way, but they never stop to consider that maybe some people just don't like games like Mario Galaxy or Mario Kart or Yoshi's Woolly World?

At the end of the day, there's nothing wrong with liking good graphics or resolution. Some people just want to take their favorite games and push their visuals to the limit, and that's totally fine. I personally love when games look good. That doesn't mean I seek out the best looking games and play them just because they look good. I look for the most enjoyable games, and good graphics and resolution is just an added bonus. That's the case with 99.999% of other gamers, too.

You guys are missing one huge thing: the pretty-much-clueless console gamer who has really never touched a PC for gaming and never will. THOSE people are the ones you see on message boards and the bigger websites constantly griping about graphics and pewpewpew. Those people, truly, think the PS4 is "powerful" (lol) simply because their scope is so narrow. They've never built a gaming PC for themselves; they think LoL and Counter Strike are the only worthwhile PC games; they think Nintendo games suck because of the graphics.

And there are A LOT of these people out there, contrary to what some of you think. I used to write for a gaming website. Trust me, these people are the ones we would aim a lot of articles at if you wanted some quick views toward your goal for the week. They are the most gullible, single-minded type of consumer you could imagine.

Other than that, I agree. Knowledgeable gamers realize that graphics do not equal good, and that the PC is pretty much a one-stop-shop for most games you could want (aside from Nintendo). We enjoy the hobby simply because we enjoy games, not because it's a competition in pixels. But the big media websites have found that those chuckleheads from my first paragraph enjoy consuming clickbait articles about graphics comparisons, 4k pipe dreams, etc.

True, but anyone who prefers a platform for it's power over another weaker platform is in a whole different group from the rare group of people who think games without cutting edge graphics suck. Uninformed console fanboys are of course much more prevalent than someone who prefers graphics over gameplay. The vast majority of real gamers can recognize a good game when they see/play one, regardless of it's graphics. A bad game is a bad game, no matter how pretty it looks. That's why the stereotype about non-Nintendo gamers only playing games for the graphics is so ridiculous. Anyone who would take a bad game over a good one because it has slightly better graphics is not a real gamer.

I agree about the console loyalty thing, though. I'm sure there are plenty of naive 10 year old boys on the internet who don't shut up about PlayStation being the ultimate system because it's so "powerful", meanwhile a mid-range PC can wipe the floor with it.