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Haruki_NLI

@Octane Nah, a copy of Xenoblade Chronicles X 2. Id crack that bugger down faster than an addict into a safe containing their stash.

Seriously.

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jump

Octane wrote:

@jump Then what's in it? A map to the lost city of El Dorado?

I'm not a techy so some of the details are lost on me but basically it's a thingymajiga.

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Nicolai wrote:

Alright, I gotta stop getting into arguments with jump. Someone remind me next time.

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TuVictus

Most likely the way the cooling system is set up? That's all i can imagine being worth a patent

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FattyWhale_42

I see plenty of people wanting to purchase a Switch without a dock; as well as plenty of people wanting another dock — but not wanting to pay the full price for it. Hmm... #ObviousSolutions

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skywake

Operative2-0 wrote:

pretty sure the switch itself acts as the sensor bar. Similar to the one built into the top of the gamepad.

It's not. I mean the Switch might have that for Wii VC games but that's not how the Joycons are working. Only the right Joycon has an IR camera and by default it's pointing towards you. So they're not using an IR pointer to centre the Joycon. What they do have are magnetometers aka a 3D compass. So they can zero themselves based on the Earth's magnetic field.

IceClimbers wrote:

Why does an additional dock set cost $90? It's nothing but a plastic shell with some ports and some cords that are really cheap to produce!

The actual bit of tech that converts USB Type C to HDMI is something you can already buy. Most of those devices retail for around $70US. Obviously being the internet you can get some on special for about half that price. But either way it makes sense that they're charging as much as they are.

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jump

skywake wrote:

Operative2-0 wrote:

pretty sure the switch itself acts as the sensor bar. Similar to the one built into the top of the gamepad.

It's not. I mean the Switch might have that for Wii VC games but that's not how the Joycons are working. Only the right Joycon has an IR camera and by default it's pointing towards you. So they're not using an IR pointer to centre the Joycon. What they do have are magnetometers aka a 3D compass. So they can zero themselves based on the Earth's magnetic field.

IceClimbers wrote:

Why does an additional dock set cost $90? It's nothing but a plastic shell with some ports and some cords that are really cheap to produce!

The actual bit of tech that converts USB Type C to HDMI is something you can already buy. Most of those devices retail for around $70US. Obviously being the internet you can get some on special for about half that price. But either way it makes sense that they're charging as much as they are.

Wouldn't that just put the image on the telly and not increase the preformance like the dock does tho? Genuine question as this stuff is lost on me.

Nicolai wrote:

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skywake

jump wrote:

Wouldn't that just put the image on the telly and not increase the preformance like the dock does tho? Genuine question as this stuff is lost on me.

Two reasons why performance drops when undocked:
1. It saves battery life
2. Its a lower resolution screen

It could technically run as fast as it does when docked while in portable mode. No reason I can see why they wouldn't be able to do that. But they don't because it would make the experience worse for no obvious benefit.

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rallydefault

Operative2-0 wrote:

I dunno about that. You need both joycons to get the equivalent of one ps4/Xbox controller. That is, two sticks, two sets of shoulder buttons. The price is whatever, but I certainly see where the annoyance comes from. Especially since there's stuff in there that's probably not gonna be used much, but will stay in and boost the cost anyway. Like the hand gesture thing.

I agree that definitely not every game will utilize every piece of tech in the Joycons, but my fundamental reasoning comes down to this: Can you or can you not play MANY of the Switch games we've seen so far with just one of the Joycons? The answer is yes: Bomberman, Mario Kart, Sonic, Snipperclips, 1, 2 Switch!, and others I can't be bothered to remember right now lol

So, just saying: To me, if I can play a game with the controller, it's a controller. I don't think that's a crazy statement, though it does seem crazy to me that I have to even say that lol

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Octane

@Operative2-0 Cooling is all done in the tablet itself, there's even a little fan. The dock has some holes that allows air flow to pass through, but that's it really.

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TuVictus

No clue, then. It'd be interesting to see the dock dissected

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gcunit

Octane wrote:

@Operative2-0 Cooling is all done in the tablet itself, there's even a little fan. The dock has some holes that allows air flow to pass through, but that's it really.

Anyone seen any reference by anyone reliable as to whether the Switch, when undocked, emits any noise from the fan? And I mean any noise. I like my hand-held devices to operate silently.

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TuVictus

Yeah that's cool. All I'm saying is, it doesn't offer the full range of input as a traditional controller when speaking of only one. That and the pro controller being 70 I think? If you want another input you're looking at spending more money than you would otherwise. But yes each one makes a simple controller useful for the usual Nintendo games that thankfully don't require the usual full range of buttons.

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Octane

@gcunit Don't think there are. As with any new hardware, they're often silent when they come out of the box, when they gather some dust, they can get noise. I assume that the same will be true for the Switch. Since we don't really have an example of an ''old'' Switch unit, it's difficult to tell, and the hands-on events were probably too noisy to notice anything to begin with.

@Operative2-0 For what it's worth, this image already exists: https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7803833/ni...

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TuVictus

Fair enough! Good news about that vc thing though. Yeah it Sucks that you'd need both versions to qualify, but it's a step up from before. So props to them if it's true

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skywake

@rallydefault
I'm starting to get worried about how much I've been agreeing with you recently. Anyways, you're right on the money about the Joycons. People are looking at the price of them as if a pair is for a single player. For some games that's true. But for pretty much any game that has more than two players it's almost certainly not.

I went through the entire lifecycle of the Wii with it being the only console under my TV. I've always been a Wii + PC gamer. I also had many opportunities to play multiplayer games over that time. But at no point did I ever feel the need to purchase any more than two nunchucks. It was just never an issue. Were there games that could have used it? Well sure. But it was never essential.

The way I see it a "full" set of controllers for the Switch would be something like:

  • Two sets of Joycon pairs
  • Two Pro Controllers
    .............

that's it

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IceClimbers

Here's some footage of Arms from the press event where JC explains some higher level stuff while Nairo and D1 are playing

On a side note, local multiplayer in Arms will be the game where you need another set of Joycons. Otherwise you are limited to online multiplayer and single player.

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rallydefault

skywake wrote:

@rallydefault
I'm starting to get worried about how much I've been agreeing with you recently.

Ha! I knew the day would come, my friend.

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PrincessSugoi

So something kind of interesting:

http://nintendoeverything.com/switch-touchscreen-supplied-by-...

I thought with their goal being 2m by the end of March they'd ship around 2.5m~2.8m but looks like they went for a clean 3m. Wonder if preorders did this or if this was already a done deal? Couldn't read the full article since the original source is WSJ and I don't have a subscription.

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jump

shaneoh wrote:

TomJ wrote:

Apparently, if you bought a VC games on Wii U AND 3DS, you get the Switch version of said game for free.

Source?

A indie developer did a podcast and said that's what's happening with it.

Nicolai wrote:

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