Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Ralizah

What what what?

check out Bayonetta 3 techinal/graphical analysis(i told you the game have serious techinal/graphical isseus but no one believed me, who right now?)

@JaxonH really?stop lying to youselft and other, is wrong to lie

@Giancarlothomaz He never said it would run flawlessly. Just that the "issues" would be widely unnoticeable to the vast majority of players. If it takes a Digital Foundry analysis for them to be noticeable, then there's nothing to worry about.

@Giancarlothomaz I don't understand why you're being so smug about a game having performance issues. We all knew it was going to have issues. Nobody here said that it was going to run perfectly. Besides, these issues may be fixed in post-launch patches.

@StarPoint Bayonetta is a franchise that require a high framerate to work, precision to your attack/combos tied to 60fps

@Giancarlothomaz
You're taking this thing way too seriously guy.

I didn't "lie".

I said if the vast majority of reviewers didn't deem it an issue, than it's probably not an issue worth getting bent out of shape over.

That's because analysis makes things look WAY worse than they really are. Ppl see 50 fps and think "omg! Unplayable!" But when you're just playing the game you don't even notice. Unless it's sharp drops from 60 to 30 and back to 60 again, or drops into the low 20s, or wildly fluctuating from 25 to 55... most ppl can't even tell.

Hence why nobody talks about it. Hence why 70+ reviewers played the game start to finish, and not one of them said they felt performance was detrimental to the experience.

Fanboys have turned performance analysis into a weapon, to the extent that anything less than flawless is tarred and feathered, despite 95% of ppl playing the game finding it perfectly smooth and enjoyable.

Take your alarmism elsewhere buddy.

@Giancarlothomaz
Bayonetta is a franchise that require a high framerate to work, precision to your attack/combos tied to 60fps

Don't know where you're getting this. But it sounds like propaganda you bought into rather than a well reasoned opinion you formed on your own.

Astral Chain demonstrably proves you DO NOT "need 60". Nier Automata on Switch is also 30, yet nobody seems to care.

Bayonetta 2 fluctuated far more than Bayo3, and yet again, everyone enjoyed it just fine.

That whole, "this game NEEDS a flawless 60 and any deviation ruins the game" is absolute horse manure

As long as the game runs reasonably fine without severe stutters that impact enjoyment, it doesn't "need" anything. You, my friend, have bought into console war propaganda.

Nobody's saying it isn't preferred. Obviously we all wish every game was a flawless 60. But acting as if dipping down to 50 from time to time is going to ruin the game just shows willful ignorance.

I worry about performance if it renders a game unplayable. This ain't it.

Yeah, I can't take all this framerate talk seriously. People had no problem playing 30fps games(like God of War 2018) on PS4, but all of a sudden anything below a locked 60 on Switch is a problem.

Especially when it comes to a game like Bayonetta where people are already upset that it's Switch exclusive.

It has to be 2 frames per second or I'm not playing, anything higher or my brain explodes.

@Eagly I'm a pRo G@mERz

Hi, Dave from Digital Floundering here. We have just analysed the performance of Minesweeper. After some slight tweeking, we managed to get the game running at an incredibly smooth 5003 frames per second and believe this should become the standard all games should be measured by.

@Eagly It's morbin time

You savages play games at 30 fps? If it’s even a frame below 500 fps, then it is practically unplayable.

What exactley does "the triggers have a surprisingly short travel time" mean when useing a switch controller

@Ninfan
Sounds like a bunch of words saying nothing. Kinda like when I do an English essay and I need to stretch it to five pages.

@Rambler Pfft, that's pocket sized. I use one of these.

@kaisu It'll never go away, and it always only works one direction.

Remember all of the people talking about Monster Hunter World being unplayable on PS4 / Xbox One because of the highly unstable unlocked framerate on those devices? Me either.

It's just a cudgel people use to mindlessly perpetuate a meaningless tribal conflict with Nintendo fans.

Yes, but the slides I posted were from before "NX" and were talking about the same thing in relation to Wii U/3DS and the "console and portable" hardware that would come after it. Cross buy between Wii U and 3DS? Never really happened. Same deal with the transition to Wii U. I mean I ended up buying Shovel Knight on 3DS, Wii U AND Switch

Really, I agree it makes a whole load of sense to do and I think they'd be stupid not to do it. Especially given that the hardware is likely to be super similar and at this stage they're the only ones not to have done it. But I distinctly remember thinking this would be the way we were headed when there was a web-page I could go to scroll through my Wii U purchases on day 1. So I'll believe if when I see it. At this stage the only thing Nintendo has unified across consoles via a unified digital account is our account balance and payment information