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WoomyNNYes

@Pizzamorg I'm assuming you saw there was a second control scheme. I don't expect the alternate control scheme to wow you, though. They are both kinda quirky.

Yeah, it's a little weird at first. I got used to it fairly quickly. If I haven't' played LM3 in a while, it sometimes takes me a few minutes to get accustomed to the controls again. The controls remind me of 3DS Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon - they were similar, if I remember right.

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AegisPrime

If they do a "new 3ds" Switch revamp I hope they choose a better name than "New Switch".

No exclusives though, not again.

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JaxonH

Paper Mario is so good.

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Anti-Matter

@JaxonH
I wish Paper Mario games from N64 + Gamecube + Wii got remastered on Nintendo Switch like 3D All Stars so i can have a chance to play TTYD that i will never able to purchase TTYD from online shop due to inflated price.

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JaxonH

@Anti-Matter
I'd love that too. But I doubt they will.

I have the original games on my shelf but no system to play them in. Used to play on GPD Win 2 and bounce saves over the network to my desktop PC, but SteamDeck will be much easier to just dock and play on the TV that way, at least for GameCube and Wii games.

That system can't come soon enough.

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JaxonH

Square Enix is now charging $70 for PC games (€80 which is insane!) to match their $70 PS prices. I read they want €105 for the Deluxe Edition! Wth!

And that's on top of whoring out their games to the highest bidder over and over again. FFVIIR gets sold to PS, then when the contract expires it gets sold to Epic Game Store, then when the contract expires it'll finally release elsewhere. But what do they care when they get paid hundreds of millions of dollars in advance, twice over, without having to sell a single copy? Saw the same thing with Kingdom Hearts.

And now they have the gall to charge $70 too? I will never buy a game for $70 again. I made an exception at PS5 launch because I wanted a game to play. But that's it. Never again. I simply wishlist the game and wait for $30 now. Because if I'm gonna wait, may as well make the wait worth it.

If they ever try pulling the $70 crap on Switch or Switch 2, I'll stop buying games day one there also. It's just not happening.

I remember reading about gamers who would stay one generation behind, so when 8th gen console released, they'd buy a 7th gen console and it would be new for them. They'd buy their games for $5-10 all generation long. And I think I'm going to adopt a similar strategy, both for $70 games to drop to $30 and for games to get ported to Steam or Switch.

There's so many games releasing, I don't need to play anything day one. I want to, but I am happy to wait, years even if that's what it takes. I'll just forget the game exists, and when the day comes it finally releases on Steam, I'll wishlist it for a price drop (because even on Steam, you've got me twisted if you think I'm paying $70, especially after waiting 2 years).

They're trying so hard to normalize it. Which, I get it. Value is what ppl are willing to pay. No denying that. But I'm not willing to pay it. Everyone has a line they draw somewhere. And for me, $70 is where my line gets drawn (even more so when it's for a game they not only broke into chunks to sell piecemeal, but also sold it off in exclusivity contracts to multiple bidders... screw that nonsense- I don't want your games that badly, I don't care what it is).

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Grumblevolcano

@JaxonH I think Nintendo would be the factor of whether Square Enix does $70 releases on Switch. Sony having 1st party releases like Demon's Souls, Returnal, Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart, etc. be $70 made $70 releases on PS5/Series X|S "more acceptable" and having FFVII Remake be cheaper on PC than PS5 would probably burn bridges with Sony. Microsoft has kept with $60 releases though apart from Flight Sim, everything in the past year has been crossgen so games like Starfield will be the true test of pricing. So in terms of Switch, if games like BotW 2 end up being $70 3rd parties will follow.

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BruceCM

Yeah, I hardly ever pay full price for any games on Steam, @JaxonH .... There's often discounts available on pre-purchases directly but if not, I usually find the key shops have some Otherwise, wait for the inevitable discounts later, since Steam basically has sales all the time, lol

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JaxonH

@Grumblevolcano
They still set the prices for their own games, even if Sony paid to delay other versions. That game was $70 because they think they can charge it, and they're looking to squeeze every last dollar they can.

@BruceCM
I use IsThereAnyDeal and can usually find games day one for $50, but although there are frequent sales, it's always a toss up whether the specific games I wishlisted are included, and many times, the sales aren't that good. Recently saw Psychonauts 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy for $40 in the sale they just had (may still be going on) but I'm waiting for $30 or less. I typically buy day one if it's a game I really want and can get it for $50, but games like that are in the, "eh, I can wait" category.

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PS5:
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NS: MH Rise Sunbreak, AC Ezio Collection, Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, Triangle Strategy, Kirby

Jesus is Lord.

Budda

@Grumblevolcano
Breath of the Wild was 70€ at release physically and it's still 70€ on the Eshop. The sequel will probably be the same.
The question is if they do 70 pounds or dollar this time around.

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JaxonH

Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak theme is such a good compliment to the Japanese Yokai theme for monsters in the base game.

Malzeno looks like a vampire monster, and Ludagaron is clearly based on a werewolf. And the whole European Knights thing is a perfect fit. The woman shown in the trailer is obviously Rhondine's sister.

Also, the monster introductions are western poetry, versus in the base game where it was that Japanese style of poetry. What a package this is shaping up to be! And the new hub across the sea, in the "land of knights" Rhondine comes from, looks so beautiful. Love that it's not themed like Iceborne in World (was kinda lame the base game had no ice maps and it took an ice themed expansion just to add one in).

Malzeno (vampire)
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Ludagaron (werewolf)
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NS: MH Rise
Steam: MH Rise
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PS5:
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NS: MH Rise Sunbreak, AC Ezio Collection, Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, Triangle Strategy, Kirby

Jesus is Lord.

rallydefault

I wish people would have taken such a hardline stance when horse armor first came out lol

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AegisPrime

rallydefault wrote:

I wish people would have taken such a hardline stance when horse armor first came out lol

sigh

Old enough to remember seeing this industry snowball into its current state.

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Losermagnet

With network based gaming coming into it's own during the PS3/360 era I dont think there was anyway that superfluous DLC wouldn't have happened. There have been too many publishers pushing that type of business model. It probably costs next to nothing to offer so it's an easy way to make a buck. I mean, horse armor was a joke when it came out but who among us can say that they haven't paid for some pointless DLC during the last 14 years? I remember buying skins for Kameo on the 360 and that was a launch game.

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BruceCM

Well, yeah, if you want them half price, you might have to wait awhile, @JaxonH .... I got a pre-purchase key for Guardians of the Galaxy for the same price as it's current sale 1 & it was definitely well worth that!
But it'll be on better sales sooner or later if you want to wait. There's plenty still on my wishlist that I'm waiting for better deals on or was getting too many others when they were on sale before

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Ralizah

@JaxonH Half expecting SE to get a fourth payday on FF7R by pimping the game out to Game Pass after the console exclusivity window has expired, lol (after Playstation exclusivity contracts, EGS exclusivity contract, and the game also went live on PS+ a year or so after launch).

I don't regret buying the game one bit (it remains my favorite release of 2020), but the exclusivity antics and the way DLC for the game is being treated as a next-gen upgrade incentive is putting me off the sequels pretty hard. Assuming it doesn't take them another 5+ years to release the next one, anyway,

I'll probably upgrade my GPU at some point once stock recovers, but, after mulling it over, I think I'm done buying gaming hardware for a while. My current setup is sufficient for my needs. Microsoft has done an amazing job making XSX/XSS utterly unnecessary for me, and PS5 seems to offer little more than nickel-and-dimed PS4 upgrades and an approaching tsunami of licensed superhero games, which, aside from the Woman Woman one, I'm not particularly keen on regardless. Very tempted by SWOLED, but given how much life the Switch seems to have in it, I can't help but feel like Nintendo has at least one more hardware revision in them. Barring that, I fully expect the successor to be backwards-compatible with current Switch hardware (frankly, it had better be).

And yeah, as a matter of principle, any $70 MSRP games only get purchased at $20 or less. The push for a new MSRP is spearheaded by only a few big companies so far and is obnoxiously artificial.

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Pizzamorg

I think the funniest thing about all of this is I would argue Nintendo have been sorta ahead of everyone else in terms of scummy pricing. They charge A LOT for their first party lineup and it basically never goes on a meaningful sale. They’ll also rerelease games, with really no changes at all, and charge you full price at modern prices and again never discount that, either. And that is ignoring all the artificial scarcities they create by only giving some things a limited time to be purchase, despite the fact they are digital so therefore unlimited. And that is ignoring as well that plenty of first party stuff has loads of DLC or MTX as well, so they aren’t even free of that trend.

Hell, even third party stuff which may be cheaper than the first part stuff and may go on meaningful sales, is usually still always more expensive than buying it on other platforms. It is especially funny given a Switch version is also usually always compromised in some way too, to get it to work on the Switch. You’re paying more, for a probably inferior version, just so you can take it on the go.

Yet despite this, Nintendo anti-consumerism seems to mostly go under the radar and I’m not saying that we shouldn’t be mad at others, but I’d argue in some ways Nintendo are absolutely the worst of the lot and have been for a very long time, but fans seem to mostly just accept it, because they can’t play the first party stuff anywhere else.

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Ralizah

Pizzamorg wrote:

Yet despite this, Nintendo anti-consumerism seems to mostly go under the radar and I’m not saying that we shouldn’t be mad at others, but I’d argue in some ways Nintendo are absolutely the worst of the lot and have been for a very long time, but fans seem to mostly just accept it, because they can’t play the first party stuff anywhere else.

It really, really doesn't. There's endless whining online about Nintendo pretty much every day, lol.

Nintendo isn't really above worst industry practices, IMO, they're just usually a generation or so behind the competition in that regard. One of the benefits of the bubble they exist within.

With that said, we're going to disagree in some respects, because I don't think there's anything scummy about Nintendo's pricing strategy (specifically, their games not going on sale for years). What's scummier to me is releasing a game at a certain price, bleeding early adopters dry, and then rapidly cratering the price a few months later, destroying the resell value of those early copies. Which is the norm for most of the industry, and why I typically don't support most third-party releases at launch.

Which isn't to say that I don't think Nintendo should probably put their games on sale more quickly than they do for budget-conscious consumers, but I vastly prefer their approach to companies rapidly cratering the value of their products after launch.

No disagreement on the limited availability tactic they abused last year for games like Fire Emblem NES and 3D All-Stars being supremely scummy, though.

Third party stuff being more expensive on Switch is only an issue with Nintendo if they're the publisher, which they usually aren't, so I'm not sure why you're bringing that up.

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Losermagnet

Ralizah wrote:

What's scummier to me is releasing a game at a certain price, bleeding early adopters dry, and then rapidly cratering the price a few months later, destroying the resell value of those early copies. Which is the norm for most of the industry, and why I typically don't support most third-party releases at launch.

It blows my mind that new releases for the PS4 would drop dramatically within months of being released. Like, there's zero incentive to buy at launch unless you just have to play something. Almost all of my PS4 games where bought after launch at a fraction of the price.

Nintendo games being never seeing a price drop never really bothered me much. They usually hold their resell value as well.

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