Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@BruceCM @TheJGG Nintendo's published games rarely go on sale, and there's already a discount system in place for people who buy both games, which makes me think there's not a chance in heck that Nintendo drops the price on them. NoA and NoE already cut costs where possible (no dub; digital distribution only), so they're not going to be rushing to discount them to push more copies.

Thank goodness for digital distribution. I think these are the sort of games that would have just never been localized in the GC/Wii eras, since sales projections wouldn't have justified a release overseas.

@jump I'm an absolute troll, I know! It was actually a very spur of the moment choice. Between me posting the question and then getting answers by two kindly folk, I found out KH 1.5+2.5 was on sale so... Bob's your Uncle.

@TheJGG I'd say if you want one now of the 4 then get Famicom Detective Club as it's not going to go on sale anytime soon meanwhile if you're willing to wait a month for the E3 sales then wait for E3 sales and decide from that. Nier Automata is very likely to be on sale as sales on non-Nintendo platforms are usually massive around E3 meanwhile Pikmin 3 Deluxe and Astral Chain have a decent chance of appearing (Nintendo tends to discount ports and more niche games the most which Pikmin 3 fits into both categories meanwhile Astral Chain fits into the latter category).

I didn't say they'll go on sale anytime soon, @TheJGG.... Only seen them as the 2 together on eshop here, @Ralizah? Got too many games to play for awhile, so I can wait

@BruceCM Are you UK/European? The way distribution of the game is handled on the eshop is different in NA. We get the combined option, of course, but you can also buy the games separately. $35 for the first one, and then $10 off the second to make the cumulative cost of both games $60.

I'm UK, @Ralizah.... If they go on sale in 2 or 3 years, I don't mind waiting If they never do, I never get them.

@Ralizah Oh, that explains what the Two-Case Collection is for NA. I thought it was maybe a special physical version with both on the cart but no, it's the digital version Europe gets but named differently.

Famicom Detective Club looks very nice but I don’t see what makes it stand out from any other similar game besides it being from Nintendo. I may get it, I’m certainly not in a rush to, but it doesn’t look as good as Layton, Ace Attorney or even the other recent game from Nintendo Buddy Mission BOND.

I may rewatch the trailer just to see if there’s a hook I’ve missed.

The FDC games really should have been priced more competitively. They look like a particularly poor value when you compare them to the upcoming Great Ace Attorney collection, which is giving you HD remasters of two lengthy adventure games in a popular series for $40.

I'll probably grab them, though. They do look nice, and this is the sort of release I always tell myself I'd have supported at the time if I'd known about it.

@Grumblevolcano I wish. A limited physical release would have been really cool. Alas...

@Slowdive I mean, THQ themselves have released a number of AAA ports for the Switch. Even a Saints Row game is on there! How is that not a "demographic mismatch" by his standards?

Some people will just never take Nintendo platforms seriously. What's important is that the games sell well enough to justify continued investment in the platform when possible.

@Slowdive @Ralizah Former THQ employee argues with reporter with access to the numbers on game sales on a Nintendo platform citing old biases and stereotypes with sources at relevant companies saying otherwise.

Best thing I've seen all day.

IGN America and IGN Israel have been arguing with each other today online and it would beat it if it wasn’t over such a sad real life events.

@jump If the circumstances werent so tragic that'd be equally impressive.

But for now as @Slowdive said, the ignorance of a failed game publisher employee trying to argue 10 year old logic in the face of data on Twitter is just...its peak internet discourse.

@Slowdive I think SEGA's relying way too heavily on Genesis stuff much like how Nintendo relies too heavily on NES and SNES. Sure the Saturn and Dreamcast weren't as successful much like the N64 and GC weren't as successful for Nintendo but it's an important skill to distinguish between poor sales because of hardware and poor sales because of software. Nintendo understood this fully regarding the Wii U hence how the Switch is a Wii U port machine but neither have understood it regarding older systems.

@Grumblevolcano Absolutely agree. I remember being excited for the Mega Drive Collection when it released on Switch...played it once, and then moved on. There's only so many times I can get excited for that system after all these years

I would love to be able to play Jet Set Radio, Space Channel 5 or Skies of Arcadia on the Switch however. Or even some of the more recent Sonic games. Or how about something like Gunvalkyrie or Billy Hatcher (although these would probably be very poorly received these days)?

I really want Sega to just release all their Master System games. I am amazed they haven't bothered doing that yet as it would be such a simple collection to put together. They know Europe is a big fan of the Master System, it's the reason they stuck Alex Kidd in Miracle World in the Ages series.

i think Nintendo should invest more in 2D games, 3D games are too much costly and risky to develop and everyone have a negative estigma on 3D games, 2D games is always better then 3D games, Nintendo where is the next mainline Kirby game for the 30th anniversary of the Kirby franchise in 2022? where is the next mainline 2D Legend of Zelda game? where is the next 2D mainline Mario game?

Back to Miitopia discussion, I checked the eshop charts and Miitopia is currently in 7th 6 days before launch. Only games that have done that well or better before launch this year have been 3D World, MH Rise and New Pokemon Snap.

2D games aren't as popular as 3D games, but Nintendo is the best in the business when it comes to 2D. One of the key perks of owning Nintendo platforms is gaining access to the few remaining AAA 2D games left. Namely DKC and Mario, but 2D Metroid could fall in that camp as well. They have some B-tier 2D games also, like Kirby and Yoshi (even their B-tier is better than virtually every other 2D platformer out there).

I want to see Nintendo continue to put out those 2D games, because if they stop, we lose the genre. Ya, there's indies and stuff but for full priced top-shelf budget 2D games, Nintendo is the last man standing.

That said, I don't want them to only release 2D games. Yes I want my 2D DKC, yes I want my 2D Mario, yes I want my 2D Metroid, and I'll even take my 2D Kirby and Yoshi (when they nail it, they nail it, like with Wooly World and Planet Robobot). But I also want 3D Mario. I also want a 3D DK. I also want 3D Metroid. I still want the majority of their games to be 3D.

And, they can do both. At least Ori and the Blind Forest and Ori Will of the Wisps came to Switch. Those were some of the best 2D games ever made, and absolutely on par with Nintendo's own offerings.

BTW, I hope we get Sonic 3 + Knuckles. That was my favorite of all the Sonics growing up and they never release those games individually anymore, much less release the combo where Sonic 3 was inserted into S&K.

@Giancarlothomaz not sure what you’re on about with having a stigma about 3D games, they are the norm and standard. Also if you look at Mario the New series has a fairly meh reaction to compared to the more celebrated 3D ones so I’m not sure where you are getting 2D is better than 3D from. This is of course ignoring something as stupid as a 2D game is better than a 3D since quality doesn’t work like that.

I’m neither for or against 2D/3D DK but Ninty went through a phase of having too many 2D platformers, they even turned Pikmin and Chibi Robo into 2D platformers and were laughed at for doing it. They have Yoshi, Kirby, Mario Maker and New Mario etc so Donkey Kong moving to 3D makes space in the already crowded 2D platformers scene and boosts it’s 3D mascot game output which is fairly slim pickings at the moment which all makes sense to me.

@jump Donkey Kong 64 give me a bad impression on 3D games and that why Nintendo should invest more in 2D games, i at least Super Mario Odyssey cured my negative estigma of 3D games.