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skywake

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720p touchscreen at 6.2 inches seems plausible, and pretty neat, but at the same time...that's power hungry.

In terms of battery life? Maybe. Though with a screen that size it also means that they have more space to include a larger battery. So it's not that big an issue.

In terms of driving the display? Well, if anything 720p is a bit conservative. Here is how the NX, as rumoured, sits on a graph of screen resolution vs power. In comparison to previous consoles.
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Haruki_NLI

@IceClimbers Why would I bring up SMD? Genuine question here.

@Therad They dropped their 100mil user Base for wii u sharpish I know that. Wouldn't shock me to see them cock that up again let's be honest. Hey if your 1080 phone and or tablet can last for a while congrats. Going on personal experience here the moment I start gaming on mine that battery is like a faucet.

It has been verified by other media outlets? Okay I'm gonna explain and this is in no way a personal attack just my view on this scenario.

Just because a site says they talked to other sources separate from another site and got similar of not identical info doesn't mean they actually did. Let's take Nintendo life sister site: euro gamer. They talked to sources too. If anything I'd anticipate the same sources. Why? Same company same contacts firstly.
Secondly because for obvious reasons I like to call idiots risking losing their jobs by leaking stuff, no source can be named. So we have no verification, on who said what, could be a damn intern, and it could just be the same damn person for all we know. Trusted source, sadly, means nothing. Trust is based on reputation and sadly in any walk of life you can't throw me into a room with a doctor or accountant or guy who's gonna watch my house on holiday that I've never met before and know nothing about because their behind a screen. There is no trust. There is nothing to basensure trust on. It's the same with that comment I put weight behind because why the hell not I can trust him equally to how I trust these alleged sources.

These news sites unfortunately in my eyes without names and concrete proof are basically spouting stuff and saying it's true because they said so. Sources? Pfft. No name and face? Might as well be one of those HAM radio ghosts then. There is nothing tangible or knownot for us to belive these reports on and that's my biggest gripe. Just because you have trusted sources and all that jazz doesn't mean anything to someone who isn't you.

And like I have said before if any if this was true and I was Nintendo I'd use that famed legal action on these little named reporters and work my way back to whoever was stupid enough to break NDAS and wring their necks. But that's just me.

On a note regarding Nintendo saying the marketing of wii u was a problem and the idea wasn't conveyed, all my friends back then knew it was a game console separate from wii and what it did. They just didn't give a toss. Moved on to pc and ps/Xbox. Played the kiddy card and all that. Over 30 years of gaming and a stigma has built up. Gotta break that down too.

Honestly if any of these nx rumours are true for whatever reason I forsee that £1300 potato of a pc getting more gaming use after all...

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Grumblevolcano

@BLPs Nintendo could be pulling the Dreamcast card, part of SEGA's plan back then in the 90s was giving rumours to the media which were actually true to fill the hype drought caused by Saturn. Nintendo could be doing the same here and we've already seen tons of comparisons between the Saturn and Wii U already with predictions that NX for Nintendo is like the Dreamcast for SEGA.

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I think the NX will use the eye tracking used in military fighter pilot HUDs. It will let you pass a football to where you are looking at on the screen (which EA wouldn't use because...y'know third parties) or aim reliably (kinda like that auto aim in Goldeneye) (which Ubisoft won't use because...third parties). Something like that could really add a new dimension to playability and I don't think it has been done outside of that Star Fox anime short lol.

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Haruki_NLI

@Grumblevolcano The Wii U is very much a Saturn. Highly rated and much loved library, didn't sell great. If this IS a Dreamcast scenario, and Nintendo are the ones to troll like this, or jus generally be insane, I'm down for the that. I'm a regular user of the "I know I'm insane just roll with it" group.

At this point I can only dream of the reveal now. XD

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FragRed

@Grumblevolcano I doubt Nintendo considers this to be the same scenario as Sega was in. For starters Sega was near bankruptcy when the Dreamcast came out and secondly Sega had no successful second console to help keep some kind of income, whereas Nintendo still has the 3DS.

I do feel that it is very much make or break though with the NX even if they have always been a massive success in the handheld market - there is never a guarantee it will happen again. Especially if for some crazy reasons the new PlayStation rumours were true.

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erv

3ds is being kept alive just to ensure they have something to fall back on.

The moment nx sells, it's the gba vs ds scenario all over again.

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skywake

@erv
I disagree, I think the 3DS is being kept alive because it currently makes up ~80% of their install base. So obviously development for the NX is taken from Wii U teams first. But I would wager that at this point they're already starting to take teams away from the 3DS also. I don't think the 3DS is a backup plan if the NX fails.

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cwong15

Since the NX will start with an installed base of about 0, it makes sense for Nintendo to target an established audience to sell their games. For the next few months at least, that established audience would obviously be the 3DS'. I don't think we need to read much more into their actions than that.

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IceClimbers

Yeah, it's as pretty simple as keeping their 60 million base happy is more important than keeping their 13 million base happy.

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skywake

When talking about what upcoming games mean for NX you should remember who's developing them. Here's a list of known Nintendo games coming out in the next year. For clarity I've put ones that are being developed by Nintendo themselves in bold:

Pikmin: Monolith Soft & 1-UP Studio
Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World: Good-Feel
Pokemon Sun/Moon: Game Freak
Mario Sports Superstars: Camelot & Bandai Namco
Mario Party Star Rush: ND CUBE
Ever Oasis: Grezzo
Super Mario Maker 3DS: Nintendo
Paper Mario Color Splash: Intelligent Systems
Zelda: Breath of the Wild: Nintendo

I'm pretty sure that's it. Only two of them are actually being made by Nintendo themselves internally. One is a port and the other one is confirmed to be coming to the NX. Typically Nintendo develop around 5 games a year internally. Some years a bit less, others a bit more. So far we know of 2-ish for the next year.

We also know that Nintendo typically has quite an amount of other content from second party studios. Either working in partnership with or a bit more hands off. Studios like Retro, Intelligent Systems, Monolith Soft etc. Those sort of partnerships generally produce the vast bulk of releases. Upto around 20/year. We know of about 10 so far and most of them are for this year.

So either Nintendo are sitting on their hands or there's a lot of content sitting on the shelf. And if they're doing the later? I think it's fair to assume that they're saving it for NX.

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Grandpa_Pixel

skywake wrote:

When talking about what upcoming games mean for NX you should remember who's developing them. Here's a list of known Nintendo games coming out in the next year. For clarity I've put ones that are being developed by Nintendo themselves in bold:

Pikmin: Monolith Soft & 1-UP Studio
Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World: Good-Feel
Pokemon Sun/Moon: Game Freak
Mario Sports Superstars: Camelot & Bandai Namco
Mario Party Star Rush: ND CUBE
Ever Oasis: Grezzo
Super Mario Maker 3DS: Nintendo
Paper Mario Color Splash: Intelligent Systems
Zelda: Breath of the Wild: Nintendo

I'm pretty sure that's it. Only two of them are actually being made by Nintendo themselves internally. One is a port and the other one is confirmed to be coming to the NX. Typically Nintendo develop around 5 games a year internally. Some years a bit less, others a bit more. So far we know of 2-ish for the next year.

We also know that Nintendo typically has quite an amount of other content from second party studios. Either working in partnership with or a bit more hands off. Studios like Retro, Intelligent Systems, Monolith Soft etc. Those sort of partnerships generally produce the vast bulk of releases. Upto around 20/year. We know of about 10 so far and most of them are for this year.

So either Nintendo are sitting on their hands or there's a lot of content sitting on the shelf. And if they're doing the later? I think it's fair to assume that they're saving it for NX.

Skywake is spot on. Nintendo tends to develop a few games internally and then get second-party/third-party developers to work on the rest. And not surprisingly this is where the lack of consistent quality people rant about comes in. A lot of the internal games tend to be absolute gems and instant classics. (Not to say externally developed ones aren't either)

I do believe however the number of internally developed games will increase overtime if Nintendo does make a hybrid platform. Not just because they are focusing on one platform but it also fastens the game developer learning curve. Which in time will improve the quality of their titles.

And is Pikmin really being developed by Monolith?

Grandpa_Pixel

Octane

@Grandpa_Pixel Monolith is probably working on anothet Middle Earth game

If you mean Pikmin 3DS? No, Arzest is working on that.

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skywake

Grandpa_Pixel wrote:

And is Pikmin really being developed by Monolith?

I unashamedly got parts of that list from Wiki. And since I posted the article has been edited to remove any mention of who's developing it. So buckets of salt for that one. It's almost surely not them developing Pikmin 3DS. I'm pretty damn sure the other ones are correct though, a few I got from the Australian game classification database.

Anyways, the point remains. We don't know much about what Nintendo themselves are currently working on. Most of the upcoming releases are from second party devs. And it's a very small output.

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erv

I think they are working on that "continuous stream of quality content" Iwata mentioned to be available for the future systems. To get in that flow, you definitely need to ramp up a start. Current lack of content is probably just that.

I wonder however, if there really is news on pikmin 4, assuming that the 3ds version is not what myamoto meant?

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dtjive

erv wrote:

I think they are working on that "continuous stream of quality content" Iwata mentioned to be available for the future systems. To get in that flow, you definitely need to ramp up a start. Current lack of content is probably just that.

I wonder however, if there really is news on pikmin 4, assuming that the 3ds version is not what myamoto meant?

Agreed. For them to achieve this they don't need to just have the launch titles ready, but need to be far in development for late 2017 and some 2018 games too. Then they just need to continue staying ahead. For them to achieve that though was likely to mean a drought of games in the short-term, or cheap ports of existing games. Sounds slightly familiar to the position the Wii U is in (only one major game left, got TP and WW HD instead of a brand new Zelda), and the 3DS (Mario Maker, Yoshi Wooly World, Hyrule Warriors, Mario Sports Superstars which is a just rehash of old games).

I'm expecting that Nintendo will blow us away with what they have in store for games in 2017 and probably already have a couple of great games in development for 2018.

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Grumblevolcano

I honestly think in the end Nintendo will disappoint. The NX rumours have been going on for nearly 18 months now and hype seems to be completely deflated.

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Grandpa_Pixel

Grumblevolcano wrote:

I honestly think in the end Nintendo will disappoint. The NX rumours have been going on for nearly 18 months now and hype seems to be completely deflated.

We always do this though. I remember back in the times of the Gamecube, the Wii, the DS and what not. It's business as usual

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FragRed

@Grumblevolcano I think Nintendo will disappoint because everything that's been said by them about how they don't want others to steal their ideas, and how they keep it so secret and yet the rumours seem to show something that really isn't that innovative as Nintendo seems to think.

Also a lot of people have been wanting a Wii U replacement and the NX doesn't seem to be "it". There's a lot of hatred between those who own their home console and those who own the handheld, at least that's how it seems to me when looking at comments.

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Grumblevolcano

Well here's some very negative rumours on the NX front. Apparently Sony is going to release the NEO this week.

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