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skywake

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I can't speak for others but my criticism was on their clear technology illiteracy for a hardware review not the score. Well, also the score but not because of how low it was. My issue there was that they gave one at all given the beta nature of the pre-launch firmware.

It would help if you actually read some of the posts in this thread before assuming we're all blind fanboys!

Edit: Just saw this. Your Mii on My Nintendo will now occasionally play BotW on the Switch.

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zitpig

It's a shame IGN actually gave it a score if the review is "still in progress" - sure point out the faults etc. but don't give a final score until the review is complete.

Reviews are subjective anyway and to review somehting that is ever evolving, like a gaming machine is pretty stupid. Yeah sure, the machine and software at launch may not be perfect, but give it time, patches and potential revisions/updates and those initial faults, niggles and possible poor gaming experiences will be forgotten.

The only review that will really matter will be the one at the end of the Switch's life, not the one at its birth.

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skywake

The only reviews that matter are the games. Zelda is currently sitting on a metacritic rating of 98. So who cares if the hardware is poorly reviewed by one guy who thinks that 13 = 32

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Grumblevolcano

The day 1 patch is live so I guess we'll be able to see if the joy-con issues will still be present at launch.

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zitpig

skywake wrote:

The only reviews that matter are the games. Zelda is currently sitting on a metacritic rating of 98. So who cares if the hardware is poorly reviewed by one guy who thinks that 13 = 32

While you, me and other Nintendo gamers only care about the games, the console itself does matter too.

Look at the WiiU - pretty much everyone perceives it to be a crap console, despite having a library consisting of some truly awesome games. It has some glaring flaws that were never fixed and it didn't sell at all well, but the games were great (many of them, anyway). If it had sold well, would it have been a great console? The games alone did not make it successful, so it's not ALL about the games.

[Edit] Typos.

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BigBadJohn

TIME magazine has given 1-2 Switch 4.5/5. Seems this game has a lot more depth than previously thought.

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skywake

@zitpig
The Wii U's biggest issue was content early on. 5 games 90 or above, 1 was a remaster, 1 was multiplatform, the rest were more than a year after launch. Switch has what appears to be, critically, a once in a generation release on Day 1. It matters.

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Maxz

@BigBadJohn TIME's given it 5 out of 5, unless there are two.

The number of perfect review scores is quite staggering.

So Zelda gets a lot of thumbs up. Now I really want to see how Snipperclips fares!

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Grumblevolcano

Another thing to note is Switch has returned to friend codes, no more adding people via an ID but instead a code just like the Wii/DS days.

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BigBadJohn

@Maxz I'm talking about 1-2 Switch not zelda buddy.

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zitpig

@Skywake - It doesn't matter, if it doesn't sell.

Nintendo needs to improve its presence and its advertising to get the Switch message across - look at the people in that recent video here; nobody knew what the Switch was (or cared about Nintendo - although to be fair, we only saw a small selection of people's views; maybe they interviewd a hundred people and everyone else loved Nintendo and knew about the Switch. But the media does that, and IGN is part of that same problem; they show the news how THEY want it to appear, not impartially or objectively). Hopefully that's all about to change.

Obviously we (here) are invested in Nintendo games and products, but the average user (or ALT-Fanboy ) isn't. A poorly reviewed product now, may never be perceived by them as good later on, despite efforts to improve the machine and software.

Like I said, I believe that IGN were wrong to score the machine as they did, but it really doesn't matter as what was reviewed so far, is not going to be the same thing in a short space of time (weeks, months and definiteyl years down the line).

[EDIT] BTW IGN have just reviewed Zelda 10/10 (not read the review as I don't want so see or read any spoilers)

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Maxz

@BigBadJohn Haha, oh dear. I'm in such a Zelda hype haze that I literally stared right as the word '1-2 Switch' and read 'Zelda'.

I'd just read the TIME Zelda review and hadn't considered any others reviews going live, so I jumped in to 'correct' the score. Sorry for being an idiot.

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BigBadJohn

@Maxz it's fine man, we are all hyped up for Zelda. It's going to be amazing!

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zitpig

BigBadJohn wrote:

@Maxz it's fine man, we are all hyped up for Zelda. It's going to be amazing!

Just read a couple of headlines from the Metacritic reviews. It certainly appears that it will, indeed, be amazing!

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StuTwo

zitpig wrote:

skywake wrote:

The only reviews that matter are the games. Zelda is currently sitting on a metacritic rating of 98. So who cares if the hardware is poorly reviewed by one guy who thinks that 13 = 32

While you, me and other Nintendo gamers only care about the games, the console itself does matter too.

Look at the WiiU - pretty much everyone perceives it to be a crap console, despite having a library consisting of some truly awesome games. It has some glaring flaws that were never fixed and it didn't sell at all well, but the games were great (many of them, anyway). If it had sold well, would it have been a great console? The games alone did not make it successful, so it's not ALL about the games.

[Edit] Typos.

It's about the whole package.

Wii U failed for a number of reasons but I think they were ultimately reasons of market positioning, timing, pricing and a failure of Nintendo to control the narrative or perception around the console (which was amplified by the sense that Nintendo didn't have a particularly clear idea of who the console was for internally). I don't actually think the games were ever the problem.

Had they been ready 12 months earlier (and all of the key games were shifted 12 months forwards too) the Wii U could potentially have straddled the two generations and sold the console at a time when everyone was desperate to buy cheap tablets for kids to play games on.

Had they clearly differentiated the console branding from the Wii and more clearly branded NSMBU and SM3DW as distinct games to the very similarly named NSMBWii and SM3DL things might have been different.

Had they sold it at a lower price point or had the ability to dramatically drop prices once the XBox One and PS4 launched the Wii U could have powered on.

Whatever. It was a failure but I do believe that on a marketing and a technical level the Switch offers far more options for Nintendo. It's a much stronger and clearer concept and it offers them a lot of room to move should the initial pitch not be as successful as they hope.

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skywake

BiasedSonyFan wrote:

@skywake

The only review that matters is mine.

Fixed that for you, haha.

When did saying games are the only thing that really matters for a game console stop being a statement of the obvious? IGN dude didn't know what he was talking about with the Switch review but Zelda gets 98% so who cares?

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BigBadJohn

My only question now is do I get home from the midnight launch tonight set everything up to charge and update and go to bed ready for a full day of gaming Friday or do I slam a load of energy drinks and play zelda throughout the night until I pass out from exhaustion? Decisions decisions.

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FGPackers

@BigBadJohn I would setup everything for the next morning, so you can get up and play!

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BigBadJohn

@FGPackers I know if I start up zelda I'll be there for the night. Might have a quick blast of bomberman before bed. On countdown now.

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