Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

I think game reviews are ultimately gonna be a lot more important than hardware reviews. Other than the JoyCon connectivity issue which will probably be fixed on day one, and a slightly flimsy kickstand plus a few other issues like the plastic screen, the hardware seems more than satisfactory, and that's all it really needs. I don't think any flaws in the hardware are serious enough to turn most people off. Now Nintendo just needs to bring the games, which they seem to be doing. As long as it sells, the Switch will do fine. At this point, it's just a waiting game to see how well the public responds to the Switch. That will be a bit difficult to gauge for the first while, though. Even the Wii U sold well for a while before it plummeted.

If sales are still going strong after month 3 or 4 I'd say it's good to go

What if Switch turns out like 3DS?

Ha, Nintendo think of everything...

Here's a Polygon article about it.

@Dj64Mk7
I think of the Switch as more like the Vita than the 3DS in terms of hardware. I think it's going to do as well as the Vita would have if the 3DS and Wii U had not existed and Nintendo published all their games on the Vita.

I'm not sure who these people are but according to SuperData, the Nintendo Switch is estimated to only sell 5 million for 2017 according to a Gamespot article. That seems incredibly low and a bit worrying, but again I don't know who these people are and how accurate they've been before.

@FragRed The article I read about that is trying to make out like that would be a good number, saying it would be good compared to Wii U. Wii U never exactly set the bar high so just beating that is nothing to celebrate. I would say Nintendo will be hoping for 10 million at the least.

I think it's safe to assume it will far exceed 5 million. It could reach that number in Japan alone. Splatoon was massive there and with the sequel being portable it's set to be far bigger . With 2 million consoles apparently already sold, Mario coming for the holidays and possibly the first ever mainline Pokémon you can play on TV, I'd say 10 million is much more realistic than 5 million.

My Nintendo Switch stuff is up. Rewards are still locked behind a link but coin redemption is up. You do get gold coins for physical purchases now. But they're quite a bit less than digital purchases.

@skywake I assume less for physical is Nintendo's way of trying to entice you to buy digital though I feel the online store for first party games has always been a little expensive.

I think that's a good point and I appreciate that these are real people writing but it's a dangerous line of thought to think that professional journalists can be allowed to be sloppy or unprofessional. Whatever their field, whatever their level of experience poor journalism is a problem.

As news sites increasingly straddle the line of opinion and factual reporting they become increasingly worthless. Opinions (especially controversial or extreme opinions) generate more clicks and therefore earn more than well researched and verified factual articles. They're also easier to write because they take no research skills, knowledge or even basic understanding of the topic in question. All it takes to write a good opinion piece is good English writing skills - you don't even really need a well thought out or coherent opinion.

When you can't trust the journalists or it's possible to see the journalists are clearly not checking even basic facts then it makes it harder to trust any of them. They (unintentionally) devalue objective facts in favour of subjective opinions and that matters. When you can't trust facts any more you end up trusting whichever opinion sounds best to you.

It's the reason why the repellent leaders of the repellent gamergate movement were able to become the repellent leaders of the repellent Trump administration. What the solution is I don't know - and it's certainly not to get angry at individual "journalists", however bad they may be - but it's definitely a problem and not something that should be just swept under the carpet.

Absolutely this. Just on that basis alone the Switch will establish a very formidable beach-head in Japan that will make it a successful console that should last a long time.

I think your mock review of the iPhone "IGN-Style" on the previous page was on the money too. Like the iPhone/iPad I think the success of the Switch will take Sony and Microsoft by surprise and it'll put them in a difficult position because I don't think either can effectively launch a real competitor to the Switch any time soon because they're wedded to the x86 chip technology for their home consoles. Any Switch competitor from Sony or Microsoft is likely to be a Windows 8 style disaster.

Nintendo Switch rewards button says "coming soon" and cannot be clicked but I just had to try accessing it anyway. You can access it by writing the url by yourself but it just says "no rewards available". I hoped there'd be some surprises.

https://ec.nintendo.com/my#/
You can now merge your Nintendo account funds with your Nintendo network ID funds that are used on 3DS/Wii U.
Also the Nintendo Switch Parentsl Controls app is now available (on the iOS App Store at least), but a Switch is needed to connect to and set up.

They're starting to prepare things for tomorrow. Already merged funds for Switch. Wait is killing me...

@skywake Just had a look there, "quite a bit less" is putting it lightly.

So on the UK site it says you have to spend £30.00-34.99 on a physical game to earn 10 gold coins,where £4.50-8.99 on the Eshop will earn you the same.To make it worse it only goes up to a maximum of 16 gold coins and for that you have to spend over £50.00.Where only £9.00 on the Eshop will earn you 20 and £50 will earn you a whopping 80.

Considering 80 gold points seems to be worth roughly the same value as 1 SNES game,that means you'd have to buy 5 full price physical titles to earn enough points for one SNES game.I can see this not going down well in the comments when it's reported later.

Pro Controller get

It's better than nothing
I guess it is an improvement over 3DS/Wii U having none, but there really isn't all that much you receive. I have been going more digital recently so maybe it won't affect me very much personally at least.

Totally agree

@StuTwo I think Switch will do very well in Japan but do rather mediocre in the west until after Nintendo's E3 events at the earliest and how soon after depending on how well their E3 is.

I've just read the IGN review (incidentally, it's a review in progress). They explain both positives and negatives of the Switch and have given it a temporary score of 6.7/10 (to be revised following a full review). They're not exactly torching the system with a flamethrower or anything. Sure, it's not a perfect review, but I think some Nintendo fans can be a bit too sensitive sometimes. Had IGN awarded the Switch a 9 would anybody be complaining?

It would also help if some of you actually read the review before slating it, especially if you're going to moan about objectivity, subjectivity and bias while doing so...

Speaking of reviews, the Zelda embargo lifts in... one minute. God this is pathetic, but... yeah.