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StuTwo

BiasedSonyFan wrote:

@gcunit @StuTwo

This stupid dialogue about "casual gamers" is getting really tiresome. For whatever reason, we "real gamers" have to keep crying about how "casual gamers" have ruined our precious Nintendo or how much Nintendo "needs" the approval of "real gamers".

It's really simple: Nintendo just wants to make video games that they think people of all ages can enjoy, and they want to make a profit from it. The "poisoned chalice" that you talk about allowed Nintendo to make those video games to the tune of billions (not millions, billions) of dollars in profits. Mission accomplished, and no amount of petulant whining from "real gamers" is going to change that. Nintendo then had a setback (losing some millions) during the Wii U era. So what? That's business. It's actually remarkable that there's so much noise about those losses given that it's the only era during which Nintendo had any losses in company history.

Nintendo has moved on and is soon going to release the Switch. While they've fine-tuned their marketing campaign and business strategy, their core mission hasn't changed. At all.

Relax.

I don't think that Nintendo has been "ruined" or that they need to satisfy me and only people like me. I love that their games are varied and testing what's possible in the industry. I think that Wii Sports is one of the best games ever made and even though they're not my thing I love that Nintendo made things like Nintendogs and Brain Training. It's not a route that I feel should be rejected (and not just because it's profitable but because I feel there's much more fun to be had!).

The Wii was however a poisoned chalice for Nintendo from a marketing perspective because they lost control of the marketing message surrounding them and lost contact and influence with particular groups that are important influencers. I think that the vision Nintendo has shown with Switch is very inclusive - it has room for "waggle" (I hate that term btw) alongside more "traditional" games like Zelda BoTW - but it's also far more cohesive than Wii U. They have a clearer idea of why people might buy 1-2 Switch than why people might have bought NintendoLand.

And this is reflected in the confidence of the advertising that follows the marketing.

...But 1-2 Switch could have been done on a much cheaper piece of hardware and sold 50 million units that would have been useless from the perspective of providing a platform for selling Zelda BoTW and similar experiences.

StuTwo

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KirbyTheVampire

BiasedSonyFan wrote:

@KirbyTheVampire

Maybe it's just a selfish thing on our part...

It is. You're getting Zelda, Mario Kart, Splatoon, Mario, etc. in the same year. So what's the problem?

Last I checked we were talking about how the DS and Wii were poisoned chalices, not the Switch. I actually think the Switch's lineup is pretty good. I expected a bit more, considering Splatoon 2 and Mario Kart were low effort projects, and BotW was supposed to be a Wii U game and has been in development for years, not to mention LKD's rumored lineup that everyone was taking as absolute fact, but assuming they're not struggling to get games out there, they're probably saving those other games for later on to prevent droughts, and I'm good with that.

And like I said, it is just a selfish thing. I would enjoy it if the whole Switch library was for hardcore gamers, unless they came up with some very good casual games. That doesn't mean I think that's the smartest idea for them from a business standpoint. Even the PlayStation has games that casuals can get into. All I'm saying is I can sympathize with people like StuTwo and gcunit. No need to be so testy all the time, man. It's possible to disagree with someone without acting like we're all whiny children. No one wants to discuss anything with someone who can't be civil.

KirbyTheVampire

KirbyTheVampire

BiasedSonyFan wrote:

@KirbyTheVampire

Last I checked we were talking about how the DS and Wii were poisoned chalices, not the Switch.

And some of the best Nintendo video games I've ever played were on the Wii. The Wii U also had great video games.

So, again, what's the problem? Nintendo never "left" you.

There isn't a problem. I just hope, for me personally, that the Switch caters a little more to the hardcore crowd than the last two systems did. That's literally it. I'm not hating on Nintendo or anything. It's just what I personally want for the system. I'm not saying "Nintendo absolutely has to do this because reasons". They can pull another Wii and I'd still buy it for their first party games. It's their system, after all. I just hope that the Switch leans more toward the Gamecube side instead of the Wii. I don't think having personal hopes for the system is at all unreasonable.

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BigBadJohn

I really want an Animal Crossing announcement at E3. Generally the quick pick up and play nature is suited for handheld and as such the home console versions have never really worked. AC Switch could have the best of both worlds. Come on Nintendo, you owe me! I've been doing so much Switch PR with my friends and family. I've got 3 confirmed orders.

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KirbyTheVampire

BigBadJohn wrote:

I really want an Animal Crossing announcement at E3. Generally the quick pick up and play nature is suited for handheld and as such the home console versions have never really worked. AC Switch could have the best of both worlds. Come on Nintendo, you owe me! I've been doing so much Switch PR with my friends and family. I've got 3 confirmed orders.

I'm really hoping for an Animal Crossing announcement, too. Fingers crossed.

KirbyTheVampire

AndyD

Anyone know if the "User ID" will be how we "friend" others, or will it still be based on our Nintendo Network ID?

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BigBadJohn

@scubydo I'm assuming the new ID will be how you search and add people. Maybe then the other person has to confirm bit like Facebook.

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AndyD

BigBadJohn wrote:

@scubydo I'm assuming the new ID will be how you search and add people. Maybe then the other person has to confirm bit like Facebook.

Thanks! My other question then is, being the Nintendo Network ID's used to be "locked" to the consoles, will I be able to add my current Nintendo Network ID without having to call the big N to get them to transfer my account. I know the Switch will not be tied to the ID directly, which is good, but since my old NNID is tied to the WiiU will I be able to use that one for the switch also?

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Haruki_NLI

@scubydo You can use your same ID for your Nintendo Account, but its not the NNID you are using. NNID is a legacy thing for 3DS and Wii U now. Everything on Switch will be tied to Nintendo Account, not NNID.

NNID integration is purely for My Nintendo and /maybe/ some other things?

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BigBadJohn

@scubydo Again I'm only guessing but I'm assuming this is why they've had to take this step. The new user ID should allow you to sign in to any switch without the massive hassle that the current process uses.

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AndyD

BLP_Software wrote:

@scubydo You can use your same ID for your Nintendo Account, but its not the NNID you are using. NNID is a legacy thing for 3DS and Wii U now. Everything on Switch will be tied to Nintendo Account, not NNID.

NNID integration is purely for My Nintendo and /maybe/ some other things?

Great, so I can pretty much forget about all the hassle of needing my NNID any longer for the switch...thanks!!!

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Nicolai

I can't tell if my "User ID" is already set-up. I'm pretty sure I did this when I signed into My Nintendo, and selected NNID login for my Nintendo Account. Is there an extra step I'm missing?

I'm looking at my "Nintendo Account" profile page, and it says Nicolai, and it says it is linked to my NNID. Is that all I need to do to make sure my name isn't taken?
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JaxonH

@rjejr
Hey, thought you'd be interested in seeing this: looks like the amiibo provide rare items... well, they say rare.

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Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions

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Emperor-Palpsy

@JaxonH This was announced a couple of weeks ago, at least. Certain Zelda-themed amiibo will grant the player particular items. Some have been officially listed, too.

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Haruki_NLI

@Nicolai User ID will be your in-game name. Your user end name. Not your account name. Its a new field specifically for Switch.

I could explain why, as it involves databases and account data, but that'd be long winded.

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Emperor-Palpsy

scubydo wrote:

BLP_Software wrote:

@scubydo You can use your same ID for your Nintendo Account, but its not the NNID you are using. NNID is a legacy thing for 3DS and Wii U now. Everything on Switch will be tied to Nintendo Account, not NNID.

NNID integration is purely for My Nintendo and /maybe/ some other things?

Great, so I can pretty much forget about all the hassle of needing my NNID any longer for the switch...thanks!!!

Think of it like this...

'Nintendo Network ID' is the old account system. If you have one, and have used it for current or past hardware (e.g. a 3DS, Wii U), then all you previous eShop purchases and downloads are linked to it.

'Nintendo Account' is the new account system, and the one that Nintendo will be pushing forward. The reason Nintendo are not making the Network ID account obsolete is because, of course, millions of users still use one for their 3DS, Wii U etc. This is why the Nintendo Account asks you to link your Nintendo Network ID, so that it has access to the list of your eShop purchases and downloads.

Once you have linked the account, you won't need to worry about Network ID again on future systems like Switch.

Also, new Nintendo customers will essentially be asked to sign up to a Nintendo Account, in order to further push Network ID into history.

I hope this helps!

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Nicolai

Ah, Nicolai is already taken? I already have a Nintendo Account; this extra user-id step is frustrating. I've had Nicolai for years.

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erv

I don't see any user id step. Is it not available on mobile?

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jump

Nicolai wrote:

Ah, Nicolai is already taken? I already have a Nintendo Account; this extra user-id step is frustrating. I've had Nicolai for years.

That was me, I've also taken Octane and Socar too just to annoy people!

Nicolai wrote:

Alright, I gotta stop getting into arguments with jump. Someone remind me next time.

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AndyD

@Emperor-Palpsy Thanks for the clarification! I appreciate it. I, unfortunately, have not been able to keep up with the Switch details and news like I probably should. So I am trying to make sure I have everything ready come March 3.

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