Maybe a better topic is "Nintendo isn't announcing or releasing big new games in mid-Winter, same as usual, but has a steady stream of quality ports from their last console that nobody bought." Not as catchy though.
Excuse me while I go pre-order Shadow of the Colossus and FFX for the 3rd generation in a row.
I love my switch... but it shadows to my PS4. I equate my PS4 to watching a movie in the theatre... and the Switch is that at home Blu-ray. It is a great secondary console. My largest complaint and this really isn't Nintendo's fault, is the audacity the indie/third parties that are re-porting/rereleasing old games on the switch and charging at full price as if the game is brand new. What incentive do I have to pay these people full price when I can buy at a fraction of the cost on PSN, Live or Steam?
@chucknorris078 I am pretty much the opposite. PS4 has been my main console before Switch released pretty much by default. WiiU was an utter slob to operate and Xbox One ... well, it‘s an Xbox, what can you expect? But after playing pretty much nothing but Persona 5 in 2017 and almost daily on Switch, I find it very hard to go back to PS4 to play Monster Hunter or Dragon Ball FighterZ. I just miss the portability, the Sleep Mode. It just feels wrong and weird. And I just upgraded to a PS4 Pro, too.
For me, Switch is the best console there is because of its portability aspect. I‘ll gladly pay full price for ports, may that be first or third party.
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Maybe a better topic is "Nintendo isn't announcing or releasing big new games in mid-Winter, same as usual, but has a steady stream of quality ports from their last console that nobody bought." Not as catchy though.
Excuse me while I go pre-order Shadow of the Colossus and FFX for the 3rd generation in a row.
That's good you purchase games that you like but also they aren't releasing at full Retail price either like alot of Switch ports are. I will also be purchasing Shadow of the Colossus on Ps4 will be my second time purchasing that game I owned it on PS2 but never got much into it then and sold my ps2 collection off so it will be my first playthrough of that game. As for Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, why is that releasing for $60 when Nintendo didn't actually do anything to it? When it actually release for a lesser price on Wii U for only $50.
Maybe a better topic is "Nintendo isn't announcing or releasing big new games in mid-Winter, same as usual, but has a steady stream of quality ports from their last console that nobody bought." Not as catchy though.
Excuse me while I go pre-order Shadow of the Colossus and FFX for the 3rd generation in a row.
That's good you purchase games that you like but also they aren't releasing at full Retail price either like alot of Switch ports are. I will also be purchasing Shadow of the Colossus on Ps4 will be my second time purchasing that game I owned it on PS2 but never got much into it then and sold my ps2 collection off so it will be my first playthrough of that game. As for Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, why is that releasing for $60 when Nintendo didn't actually do anything to it? When it actually release for a lesser price on Wii U for only $50.
I agree with you bro... $60 Tropical Freeze irks me. Maybe I've been spoiled by Sony for too long and sensible pricing on remasters or ports.
Maybe a better topic is "Nintendo isn't announcing or releasing big new games in mid-Winter, same as usual, but has a steady stream of quality ports from their last console that nobody bought." Not as catchy though.
Excuse me while I go pre-order Shadow of the Colossus and FFX for the 3rd generation in a row.
That's good you purchase games that you like but also they aren't releasing at full Retail price either like alot of Switch ports are. I will also be purchasing Shadow of the Colossus on Ps4 will be my second time purchasing that game I owned it on PS2 but never got much into it then and sold my ps2 collection off so it will be my first playthrough of that game. As for Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, why is that releasing for $60 when Nintendo didn't actually do anything to it? When it actually release for a lesser price on Wii U for only $50.
I agree with you bro... $60 Tropical Freeze irks me. Maybe I've been spoiled by Sony for too long and sensible pricing on remasters or ports.
Same here, love Sony's Pricing for there older games ports/remasters, and there flash sales.
Maybe a better topic is "Nintendo isn't announcing or releasing big new games in mid-Winter, same as usual, but has a steady stream of quality ports from their last console that nobody bought." Not as catchy though.
Excuse me while I go pre-order Shadow of the Colossus and FFX for the 3rd generation in a row.
That's good you purchase games that you like but also they aren't releasing at full Retail price either like alot of Switch ports are. I will also be purchasing Shadow of the Colossus on Ps4 will be my second time purchasing that game I owned it on PS2 but never got much into it then and sold my ps2 collection off so it will be my first playthrough of that game. As for Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, why is that releasing for $60 when Nintendo didn't actually do anything to it? When it actually release for a lesser price on Wii U for only $50.
Also isn't Shadow of the Colossus an actual full-blown remake? It's really ridiculous to even begin to try to take Sony down for a remake compared to Nintendo just releasing ports of Wii U games on the Switch.
Nintendo overcharges horrendously for their ports. Two years after the release of Twilight Princess HD, the game still costs $60 at Target. It was never worth that, and I say that as someone who loves the game. It's funny people bring up FFX. FFX's remaster is bundled with FFX-2, and while it may have been $60 initially (I'm not aware) it has been reduced in price by half that. A very stark contrast to Nintendo's treatment of remasters, where they release them individually, overcharge, never go on sale, and are never reduced in price.
@Grumblevolcano I don't even want Retro to waste their time on extra levels in a DK port. I think they would've announced the extra instead of the Funky Kong mode during the Direct if they existed.
@MarcelRguez Not comparable at all. The Last of Us Remastered came with the critically acclaimed story DLC 'Left Behind' & multiplayer maps. Resolution & FPS bump from 720p/30fps to 1080p/60fps as well as added content in the form of additional difficulties, photo mode & developer commentary. It is a fantastic package.
Sony vs Nintendo game pricing shouldn't even be up for debate. Launch prices of high profile PS exclusives:
Shadow of the Collosus Remake- £25-30
WipEout Omega Collection- £25-30
Uncharted The Lost Legacy- £25-30
Crash N'Sane trilogy- £25-30
Ratchet & Clank- £30
I bought all these games, because they were priced accordingly.
Sony pricing being better than Nintendo pricing isn't an opinion- it's a fact. This applies to sales and discounts as well.
This is another reason why I find it difficult to buy third party games for Switch. The platform doesn't matter to me- my bottom line matters to me. Sony are far better at pricing. Why should I pay more for the same game, when portability isn't a major draw for me.
EDIT: The most frustrating bit about all this is that Nintendo knows it can get away with it. They have a fan base that will defend them to death & the ones that question it are shot down for being negative.
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@MarcelRguez Yeah, Sony doesn't believe retro games sell despite Nintendo proving them wrong on so many occasions. If Sony did a PS1 Mini, it would definitely print money especially if it came with important 3rd party games like FFVII.
If a person owns both a PS4 and Switch and doesn't care about portability, then there is no reason whatsoever to buy any non-exclusive games on the Nintendo system. Especially when prices for games tend to be so much better on Sony's system.
With that said, I feel the same exact way about PS4 and PC. By and large, games are going to run better and cost less on my PC than on my PS4, so I have zero reason to buy non-exclusive games for Sony's system.
Ultimately, for me:
Third party on PC for price/performance/more options (keyboard+mouse/controller, mod support, etc.)
Third party on Switch for portability (which makes it the default option for indies and everything that isn't really demanding on the hardware)
@MarcelRguez I'm not sure they think people aren't willing to pay. The same applies to SEGA. I just think that they know more people will buy the game if it's priced as a 'budget' game. And since it's not a brand new game, they can easily do so, because it takes a lot less resources to remaster a game than to built one from scratch. I think it even applies to remakes. There's virtually no planning or concept designing, no alpha builds, etc. There's a clear end goal, which means you likely don't end up things that get scrapped in the final version. Anyway, lower price = potentially more sales, higher price = potentially higher revenue, it's a choice all publishers make.
Going back to the Tropical Freeze vs Last of Us comparison, one game went from $60 to a $50 game, remastered (30fps, 720p to 60fps, 1080p), DLC included (and apparently multiplayer maps too). The other game went from a $50 Wii U title to a $60 Switch port (with an added easy mode I guess). I also believe TLOU was barely a year old when the remaster came out.
That being said, I don't have an issue with ports and remasters. I'll gladly buy a game twice if it's good, just to play it again on another console (and Tropical Freeze is my all-time favourite Wii U game) But they have to be priced accordingly. And €60 for a game I paid €50 for, almost four years ago, doesn't feel right IMO. I believe Tropical Freeze was a Selects title at one point too. I personally think that €30-€40 would've been a better price.
@Grumblevolcano But then people would be complaining they're copying Sony again. They can't win this one
Well, I think that about decides it, then. Sony's pricing on remasters is much better than Nintendo's. So what the heck are we still doing here? Especially you, OP. Shouldn't you be in the corner making out with your PS4 or something?
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