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Topic: The Nintendo Switch Rumor and Speculation Thread

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Magician

Nothing a BotW 2 themed Switch OLED Lite can't alleviate.

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Slowdive

@Grumblevolcano It'd be best if the platform gets released before being too close to the holiday season. It gives people some time to contemplate and set money aside.

@Budda Nintendo has released special editions just prior to new hardware in the past. The Splatoon 3 Switch is targeted at a small, very specific audience. The new hardware is targeted at all current and future Nintendo users.

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TSR3

@Magician There is a business sense for releasing new hardware in the next year or so. While the Switch still has momentum and interest in the market is a great time to build on that momentum. Releasing a new model in a couple of years or more risks releasing into a market with waning interest in the Switch brand (kinda like how the Wii U came out out a couple of years too late to capitalise on interest in the Wii)

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GrailUK

@TSR3 Yep. You are right. Previously when Nintendo had multiple consoles, they had the safety net / luxury of riding one while the other was in decline. Now they only have one console (albeit a family) they need to keep up momentum without dropping the ball much like a mobile phone brand. Each upgrade needs to be more meaningful than the last. The specs boost is a given, but I think it will need other stuff too. Like analogue triggers. That sort of thing. Oh and games. And if folk have had dev kits for as long as some insiders have suggested, it sounds like Nintendo know what they are doing.

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Budda

@Slowdive
From what I can find a Special Edition for a 3DS XL was about 9 month prior to the release of the New 3DS.
Announcing a "new" Switch just right after a Special Edition OLED was released is just a bad idea. And if it's releasing this holiday even more. If it releases next year that would hurt holiday sales. Therefore if there is a new system, they would announce it next year not September.

Budda

TSR3

@GrailUK Analogue Triggers? That's so obvious they'll never do it! I did suggest some new features they could use at the end of last year, but I never thought of analogue triggers ūüė≥
I think Nintendo have got the games side of things covered. They must be close to regularly hitting a 1st or 2nd party release every month at the moment? Compare that to Sony or Microsoft's own output this year! While they don't have a 2nd console to fall back on, they're certainly reaping the benefit of consolidating their handheld and home console efforts.

TSR3

NeonPizza

Gyro sensor bar. please, for the love of god. And give us a new controller that has the ergonomics and larger sized, proper buttons in check that can also be split into two like a Wii remote + Nunchuck, or snapped back together as a traditional controller.

A rotating mechanizm in the circuit board that can switch the D-pad & left analog stick around by the click of a button would be great too so we dont have to have our left hand placed lower for Retro based titles when using the d-pad. Crossing my fingers for AR, or for Nintendo to adopt VR at some point. Just something fresh, exciting and new and that will make things feel a little less stagnant. Plus, 90fps, if that's even possible(probably not) given that Nintendo's next console might have the power of a base PS4.

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RR529

A 3D screen.

It's totally not gonna happen, but I want a 3D screen.

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NeonPizza

@RR529
1 million times this. Bring 3D back, A flat depthless 2D screen isn't natural. It's the missing piece of the puzzle. Higher resolutions(retina resolution) and higher frame rates(real world motion) are becoming a thing, but real world depth perception is completely tossed to the curb. Thankfully it exists in VR where it's 100x more effective, but having a new advanced 3D TV tech, without the need for glasses that offers and wide sweet spot that makes the player feel like they're looking through a window into another world would be amazing. a frikkin love 3D.

The best Nintendo can do for their next console, realisticly, is to incorperate 3D into their hand held screen if it is in fact another hybrid protable, which it most likely will be, and then some. i'd like >

7.5", 1080p, QD-OLED display
Zero motion blur, with at least 1080p motion resolution(Neither will probably happen)
90fps capable
New 3D Technology
Augmented Reality
PS4+ power

The 3D & AR would have me clamoring for portable gaming again, to a degree. I'd probably double dip between playing whatever game in it's entirity in handheld mode and then my, ahem, future overpriced 65" sammy QD-OLED TV. I'd basically be double dipping hehe.

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Kermit1

@res1080p (by complete accident I changed the link to the other Switch thread but this fit here)

My thoughts Nintendo is probably mixed about this.

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res1080p

@Kermit1 it will be interesting to see if nintendo even reacts to this at all.

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Kermit1

@res1080p yea, they don't take down videos for portable Wii's. Who knows?

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skywake

Budda wrote:

From what I can find a Special Edition for a 3DS XL was about 9 month prior to the release of the New 3DS. Announcing a "new" Switch just right after a Special Edition OLED was released is just a bad idea. And if it's releasing this holiday even more. If it releases next year that would hurt holiday sales. Therefore if there is a new system, they would announce it next year not September.

They announced the Gameboy Micro after the DS had launched, and the new 2DS after the Switch launched. And those were entirely new SKUs not cosmetic revisions. I expect the release of the Switch Pro/Switch 2/Switch Whatever will not mean we stop getting regular Switch SKU releases, and certainly not new colours/editions. At least for a couple of years

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Budda

@skywake
Yes: After they launched.
They where not misleading or something. And when we are talking about the Switch, Nintendo released the Mario edition month and month before they released the OLED. Same like they did with the last 3DS XL special edition and the the New 3DS.

Budda

skywake

@Budda
The GBA SP backlight revision released within months of the DS reveal. I myself picked up the relatively popular Zelda SKU of the 3DS XL which came out less than a year before the New 3DS was announced. Also I'm fairly sure there would've been not much gap at all between the Pikachu Edition GBC and the GBA announcement. I get your point but historically I don't think Nintendo has been that concerned about people getting "burned" on late limited edition hardware.....

Also if Nintendo did reveal new hardware this year it's not like anyone would be super shocked by it. Rumours or not, people are primed for new hardware at this point. It wouldn't be a shock.

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NinChocolate

@skywake it wouldn’t be a shock because Nintendo has regularly put out more revisions, special editions, variants/price tiers than anyone in the business. Their engineering to manufacturing channel is efficient enough that they have no problem kicking out new hardware to boost a fiscal year. So if they’re marketing to those inclined to buy the premium Oled with a new special edition, nobody should be surprised if they also put something out to target and entice the lower-tier buyer, or the handheld focussed buyer. I say Nintendo is now in a position to really start running it’s Switch business similarly to when it sold separate home and portable consoles. Because the Lite line is now prime to tack on some new features while maintaining it’s price tier. And potentially they can then continue to sell it as Switch-gen 1 and at the same time roll out NSW-gen 2, whenever that happens. If they make all NSW-gen 2 launch games compatible with NSW-gen 1, they can probably push through the supply constraints (and possible recession purchasing shifts) selling everything they’ve developed in hardware and software with some cadence.

NinChocolate

skywake

I'd argue the Switch right now is kinda analogous to the Wii in early 2011. Technically software sales are at a peak but hardware sales are down by ~20%, which is about where the Wii was at that point. And while the Switch's demographic and "gimmick" is pretty different to the Wii's competitors are starting to move into that space. Even if not at the same volumes (Steam Deck vs Kinect)

And honestly I think they're going to make basically the same play they did back then. With a few changes. Relatively soon we'll get some kind of announcement, I expect the delay between announcement and release will be shorter because that's just how it works now. Nintendo will leverage the Switch branding enough that people think it's just another Switch. Which at least this time will be more accurate a description than it was with the Wii U. And as soon as it's announced sales of the current Switch will tank

But I think @NinChocolate is probably right on the one key difference. The current Switch will probably live on for a while as a budget SKU that continues to get support. And the main reason that can work is because I don't think the gap between the Switch and whatever is next, at least from a developer perspective, will be that dramatic. Especially for simpler titles.

I would be surprised (then again, Nintendo be Nintendo so maybe not) if the eShop doesn't carry over to the new hardware and on day 1 you just have the Switch library sitting there. Completely transparently. Encouraging people who make simpler titles to just continue releasing games for "Switch". And maybe allowing publishers to "stack" versions, even if the titles don't natively scale, so that people can just get the new version for the new hardware. But maybe that makes too much sense for Nintendo

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Grumblevolcano

@skywake To me it feels more like 3DS in early 2016, there's a lot going on with the software front but at the same time new hardware is looming. 2016 1st party 3DS lineup was:

  • Mario & Luigi Paper Jam
  • Fire Emblem Fates
  • Mario & Sonic 2016 Olympics
  • Hyrule Warriors Legends
  • Mini Mario & Friends amiibo Challenge
  • Kirby Planet Robobot
  • Rhythm Heaven Megamix
  • Metroid Prime Federation Force
  • Style Savvy Fashion Forward
  • Picross 3D Round 2
  • Yokai Watch 2
  • Mario Party Star Rush
  • Pokemon Sun/Moon
  • Super Mario Maker

You also had major updates/DLC like Corrin and Bayonetta in Smash, New Leaf Welcome amiibo update, etc. meanwhile 3rd party had some major releases like Monster Hunter Generations.

Meanwhile Wii in 2011 was gigantic game droughts, don't know how 3DS in 2016 compares on the sales side of things though.

Grumblevolcano

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skywake

@Grumblevolcano
Sales wise the 3DS doesn't really match the Switch much at all. The best year for the 3DS in terms of sales was 2012 and outside of a slight bump in 2016 sales dropped every single year after that. And it was 2018 when sales fell right off a cliff. Of course it played out slightly differently in different regions (there's a reason why the New 3DS launched first in Japan) but overall it peaked pretty early with a long tail

Also from a raw business perspective. There's a lot 2011 and not a lot 2016 about the position Nintendo generally find themselves in right now. Of course the Wii U does play a large role in that but either way. This is very late Wii in terms of what this looks like in the spreadsheets

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