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spizzamarozzi

I have used the WiiU web browser for more than 2,500 hours total. Most of it was just for streaming YouTube to the telly, as I don't have an antenna/satellite TV where I live...so the WiiU became my TV.
I may be in the minority but I don't have a dozen gizmos that stream things to other things. I have a very simple TV, a mobile phone, an old laptop and the console - that's it.

So for me things like a web browser, streaming apps, (blu-ray players if you consider Sony) or stuff like that can be a big incentive when buying a console. I'd rather buy a console that does most things moderately well than buy multiple dedicated gadgets, plus a console.

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skywake

I think it would make sense and the only way I think I can make my point here is to tear down the OP's argument point by point. Well three points specifically:

Dokkaebi wrote:

Not to mention with the short battery life of the switch it doesn't make sense to use it on the go when a smartphone's battery easily lasts double that while streaming

What are you basing this "the Switch has no battery life" on? The battery life while playing BotW? I can tell you now that streaming content is going to consume far less battery. The Switch isn't going to be any less efficient in that task than the average phone. And I hate to point this out but the Switch battery (4300mAh) is quite a bit bigger than even flagship phones like the iPhone 7+ (2900mAh) and the Pixel XL (3400mAh). And lets not forget the fact that a dead phone battery can easily be a much bigger problem than a dead Switch battery.

Dokkaebi wrote:

and has access to much more content.

But we're talking about having apps for streaming services like Netflix. How would the Switch version of Netflix have less content than your iPhone version of Netflix? It's Netflix. The same content exists whatever platform you're streaming to. That's kinda the point of the service isn't it?

Dokkaebi wrote:

So you would rather watch it on a lower quality screen on a heavier devices for 1 or 2 inch difference in screen size?

In what world is the Switch screen lower quality? It's IPS so it looks pretty decent. And it may be 720p but for a screen that size that really doesn't matter when consuming media. Pixel densities beyond that only really matter if you're talking about text if at all. In any case, yes again to the screen size. I would rather watch movies on the Switch's 6.2" screen than on my 5" phone screen. Just like I'd rather watch a movie on a 7" or 10" tablet than on my phone.

If we were just talking about on the TV? Then sure, I get your point. I don't need another youtube/netflix streaming device for my TV. But in portable mode? There have been times already where I have decent WiFi, my Phone and my Switch. That's it. If Zelda wasn't still a thing? I probably would have watched Netflix or something. If I had the option I'd rather watch on my Switch because it's the better device for that sort of thing.

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Zizzy

As someone who has streaming services on more than 4 other devices, I don't even plan on downloading them onto my Switch.

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shonenjump86

I care, once I get a Switch in the near future hopefully those app will be on there.

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JohnBlackstar

I wish Switch had apps. I take mine with me on all of my business trips. I would love to watch movies and use apps on the plane and at my hotel. It has a bigger screen than my Iphone and Windows Phone. It would also be nice to replace my PS4 on my TV with the Switch, but to be honest I still want the Blu-Ray player. Switch just isn't designed to replace the PS4 in that capacity.

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JoeDiddley

I worry that my Switch doesn't have a strong internet connection. Eshop videos won't play without stuttering even when near my router. All my other internet enabled devices work fine (all around the house) and I've tried changing my broadband channel.

So I can't see Netflix or iPlayer working well for me, they run just fine on my Roku 3 anyway.

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Dokkaebi

@Hexed

To me it really sounds like what you mean is: (My $900 cell phone is a smaller screen than my $300 Nintendo device, and even though it is better in quality and resolution I just want to watch a show on my Nintendo device because it is newer than my phone.)

If you only have two hdmi ports you can get an hdmi hub for around $8 online. It sounds what you really want is a Nvidia Shield Tablet.

Free wifi at hotels is too slow to stream anything, and half the time has issues loading their splash page just for you to login, you would likely be tethering off of your smart phone, at which point, why not just use your smartphone?

You say carry around more junk, but a smartphone is something you will likely have anyways, and if you are carrying your switch you will likely have a backpack, the usb sized chromecast is likely not going to add to your load or be a hindrance in the same bag.

@Lethal

I'm confused by your response. The switch is a portable gaming console, just because other caming consoles and portable devices had additional features for multimdedia doesn't mean this one has to. I'm willing to bet everyone that is butthurt about not having these apps on their switch already has an xbone or ps4 in their living room.

I highly doubt Nintendo meant for the switch to be an all in one device for everything, I'm pretty sure that's what the Xbone was all about.

@spizzamarozzi

Hi, I understand in your situation these features would be beneficial, but I would have to say that you probably wouldn't benefit from the switch then. You would be better off with a Nvidia Shield Tablet or something along those lines since you could play games with it on the go, use full android for multimedia and web, and plug it in to HDMI for 1080p to 4k output.

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Dokkaebi

Octane

@Dokkaebi Please don't multi-post. You can edit your last post if you want to add something. I've compiled your posts into one.

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Lethal

Dokkaebi wrote:

@Lethal

I'm confused by your response. The switch is a portable gaming console, just because other caming consoles and portable devices had additional features for multimdedia doesn't mean this one has to. I'm willing to bet everyone that is butthurt about not having these apps on their switch already has an xbone or ps4 in their living room.

I highly doubt Nintendo meant for the switch to be an all in one device for everything, I'm pretty sure that's what the Xbone was all about.

You are confused? You are assuming things. That is your first problem.

You sound like Nintendo's bodyguard, trying to act like Nintendo is perfect and the Switch is perfect. Well they aren't, and neither is the Switch.

ALL portable devices should have media apps. Why mention the PS4 and XB1??? Are those portable? Nope! If I am on my Switch and I want to watch YouTube or something, I would like to do it from the device I am using. It is clearly capable of doing so.

And you really need to stop assuming so much. Open your eyes and take a good look at the Switch. Now close your eyes and take a good look at what it could be. #holdingmeback

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ECMIM

I have to disagree w/ the OP: for traveling, having these apps (Netflix, Kindle, browser, etc.) would mean having to carry one less device around with a decent-sized screen.

As it stands, I'm now hauling a phone, tablet, laptop, and Switch to and fro--I'd love to be able to ditch the tablet, and I think Nintendo is, potentially, missing some audience/sales here (it may not matter now, of course, but if people get it in their heads that it's 'only' for games, that'll be a tricky notion to dislodge later).

As for home use, yeah, sure, I have a Kindle Fire TV and Roku's, etc., strung around the house, but naturally if I'm spending a lot of time on one device, it'd be great if I could just stick to that one device and not monkey around w/ a zillion different remotes, changing inputs, using up inputs I don't have (I have four on my main TV, and it's at least 2 short of what I really need, and I'm loathe to add a switch to handle even more for a variety of reasons). If the Switch could double or triple up for Amazon, Netflix, etc., then I could lose the Fire TV (or Roku(s)) which are only used as video streaming boxes.

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JaxonH

@Dokkaebi
I'm gonna have to agree with @skywake here. Not to say I disagree with everything you've said... I do agree that it will likely have little to no impact long term either way. But it will increase satisfaction among owners that much more. Particularly among those using it as a portable device (and if it had Netflix, even console-only Switch gamers might be enticed to bring it with them on the go, which would result in more people using a Switch in public, resulting in more awareness).

For example, everyone has their phone on them. Ok, so phone is option 1 for Netflix on the go. But now I take Switch with me everywhere because I want more than mobile gaming. I want a dedicated gaming device on the go. And pretty much every other Switch owner is doing the same.

So ok, I'm at work. Slow Saturday, I'm gonna watch an episode of Iron Fist. Now, do I pull out my 1440p Galaxy S7 phone to watch it? Where I have to find a book to lean it against and squint my eyes because I'm watching an entire television show on a tiny little screen, so tiny that I can barely even tell the difference between toggling the phone on 720p/1080p/1440p?

Or... or or or or or.... do I use my Switch, which has a kickstand for easy viewing and a screen with significantly more luxury in real eastate? I can tell you right now, if Switch had Netflix I'd use it every single time over my phone. No question.

The reason every device has these apps is so that no matter which device you take with you or use, you will have access to those apps. It may be fine and well that all these other devices have Netflix, but I'm not taking all those other devices with me everywhere; I'm already taking both my phone and my Switch with... that's it. I'm not going to take a third device with me everywhere I go, like my iPad, just for Netflix. I'm simply going to use whatever I have on me at the moment, and there's no reason at all Switch should not have these apps. It's a tablet-like device built ground up for media consumption on the go- primarily gaming, yes, but it's perfectly capable of having these apps and there's simply no reason not to have them. Especially when me and millions of other people like me would prefer to watch Netflix on the much larger screen and on a device that actually has a kickstand built into it.

Is it the end of the world that it doesn't have them? No. Am I going to go petition Netflix to hurry up and get their app on Switch? No. I don't care about it that much. But I do care, as do many, many others. Even my coworker who bought one on my recommendation... the first question he asked me is does it have Netflix. People care.

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All that said, I think I understand why Nintendo chose to not have them day one. They are chasing a clear, concise message that Switch is a gaming console, and for the public to see people with a Switch watching Netflix they may make the mistake of judging it to be a mere tablet or gaming tablet (of the iPad variety, not a console of the Wii variety). So, as long as we get some basic apps in the near future, I'm ok with that approach.

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Lethal

Saying people should use their phone is just stupid. What if the Switch has a larger screen than your phone. That alone would make me want to use my Switch for watching movies.

I have a phone, PS4, XB1S, smart TV, Kindle Fire Stick, Roku, Wii U, 3DS, Vita, and other devices. All of which allow me to watch some sort of media without having to switch over to another device. Unless that is true secret behind the "Switch" name. Done playing games? Ok time to "switch" to a different device.

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FGPackers

As i said multiple times it's i games device. I want games, not apps. Nothing will make me change my mind on this. There are tablets and smartphones for other things

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Octane

@FGPackers Like how phones are just for calling, right?

It's not a case of pick one. I don't understand the argument "I don't want apps, I want games." It's not as if Netflix on the Wii U meant cancelling a game in order to make it happen.

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BigBadJohn

A few years back the big thing in technology was convergence, the idea that you would have one device to do everything you needed. Your phone would be you internet browser, your media player, your camera, you games machine etc etc. The problem is dedicated devices generally do a better job. I can get a kindle app on my phone but reading on my actual kindle is a much better experience. My camera is way better quality than my iPhones and my switch plays better games (although currently with limited choice). Then there's the battery factor using one device to do everything will burn through your battery necessitating you to carry a power bank. It's getting to the point where I need a backpack to carry all my tech. Sorry I've completey lost what my point was. Oh yeah I don't need non gaming apps on my Switch.

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Lethal

Octane wrote:

@FGPackers Like how phones are just for calling, right?

Exactly! I honestly think some of these members say they do not care about media apps because they genuinely get hurt when people say bad things about Nintendo. I have seen some members here get angry about it and resort to insults. It is ridiculous.

The Switch will get apps eventually. Hopefully sooner than later too. And these kids crying about how the Switch does not need apps obviously have no kids of their own so they do not know how convenient it is for my kids to have YouTube or Netflix right there on their switch.

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skywake

BigBadJohn wrote:

A few years back the big thing in technology was convergence, the idea that you would have one device to do everything you needed. Your phone would be you internet browser, your media player, your camera, you games machine etc etc. The problem is dedicated devices generally do a better job.

There isn't a dedicated device for Netflix. And when I'm not at home the Switch likely is the best device I have for watching videos. If we were talking about Blu-ray and at home? I'd agree. I had a Blu-ray player before I got the Wii U and the same one is under the TV now. I never understood people who said the Wii U needed Blu-ray playback. But Netflix on the Switch in portable mode? It's going to be the best option for it so often I don't see why you'd argue against it.

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To put it a different way, when people argue for media features on a home console? I don't get it. It doesn't make any difference to me what the source is at home because it's on the TV anyways. Odds are having a modern TV you have a way to watch Netflix etc already. You likely have BluRay player and so on. Because those are things to have when you get a TV. So when a new console comes out it having that stuff doesn't matter because what were you doing not having them before you got the console? I couldn't care less about the media features of the PS4 or XBOne for this reason.

But a portable system is kinda different. When not at home you don't have all the stuff under your TV. You probably have your phone but beyond that you probably don't have anything. If you have the Switch with you? You have something better than your phone for consuming content. Yes pretty much everyone has a smartphone. But how many people have a phone with a 6.2" screen, kickstand and front facing speakers? Not many I'd wager.

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TuVictus

I'll Never understand why people would advocate for less options. As if it somehow takes away its ability to play games by the apps existing. "nah I don't want this optional extra stuff for free, please give me less".

It's ridiculous

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skywake

JaxonH wrote:

So ok, I'm at work. Slow Saturday, I'm gonna watch an episode of Iron Fist. Now, do I pull out my 1440p Galaxy S7 phone to watch it? Where I have to find a book to lean it against and squint my eyes because I'm watching an entire television show on a tiny little screen, so tiny that I can barely even tell the difference between toggling the phone on 720p/1080p/1440p?

With Netflix you're unlikely to see much benefit going above 720p anyways unless you're streaming 4K. And because of compression "4K" on Netflix only really has as much detail as 1080p. So there's not much of an advantage to phones over the Switch anyways even if you could see all the pixels.

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skywake

@Masurao
I agree with the sentiment but you lost me on the specifics. For the camera? Yes, 100%. But beyond that I don't agree with any of your points. For music you may be right for playing back mp3s but if you want access to music streaming services you basically have to use something like a phone anyways. Smartphones are a lot better for music than a dedicated music player these days.

But back on topic, video consumption. Specifically portable video consumption and video streaming services. You talk about compromises but you aren't really thinking it through I don't think. If I was to come up with the perfect portable video consumption device? It'd have a 6-10" IPS or OLED screen, 720p/1080p. Front facing speakers, kickstand, headphone jack. A 4000mAh+ battery, bigger if it has a bigger screen. You know what devices fit that spec? A small handful of tablets (Microsoft Surface, Lenovo Yoga) and the Switch.

I'm very much a "right gadget for the job" sort of person. I'll get a BluRay player for playing BluRays, a camera for taking photos, a speaker system for playing music. I have a router as a router, a WiFi access point as an access point and a modem as a modem. I got a portable game playing device for playing games on the go and a PC for playing games with higher end visuals. But in this specific instance? The Switch is the right gadget for streaming Netflix on the go. There aren't many other products on the market that would do it better.

Edited on by skywake

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