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Haru17

@Octane Metroid: "My body is ready to metamorphose!"

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Turbo857

All I want in a Prime or new 3D Metroid is a darn 3rd person viewpoint. We've seen games that handle 3rd and 1st views seamlessly for those that lean toward their particular preference. Over-the-shoulder, behind-the-back (Nintendoland - Metroid Blast style), just.... something.

Samus's somersaulting, jumping and general platforming traversal abilities have yet to be properly reflected in the Prime games. Metroid fans don't just play these games because we wanna be Samus, we wanna see Samus. And in 2017, 2D shouldn't be the only view available to make that happen.

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Octane

@Turbo857 For what it was worth, I enjoyed the Metroid mini-game in Nintendo Land. One of the reasons was because it is the only 3D third person ''Metroid game'' with camera controls. I'd like to see that in a Metroid game one day. I don't think we'll see that in Prime 4 though. Nintendo is going to play it very safe with this game.

Octane

Turbo857

@Octane

Remains to be seen but you may be right. Til then, I'll be keepin' my fingers crossed.

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Grumblevolcano

Turned out one of the items were worth 2% so it was only the 9 missile expansions missing. Game completed at 100% logbook, 100% items!

Someday I'll get to replaying Prime 2 and 3 but given BotW DLC 2 takes place after the final boss I'll be focusing more on that game regarding single player experiences.

Grumblevolcano

Octane

@Grumblevolcano Don't how how you can do 100% logbook. Too tedious for me. I gladly look for all the items, but I've never done a 100% logbook.

Octane

Grumblevolcano

@Octane It felt natural while playing through the game, the only scan I struggled with was a research one which turned out to be Gunship (Yes, Samus' gunship which can be your first scan in Tallon Overworld).

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Octane

@Grumblevolcano You can scan the Gunship before you arrive on Tallon IV, as soon as you get control over Samus! But I've always ignored most of the scans. I feel that I need a guide if I want to complete them, and I may do so one day, but not now.

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meleebrawler

@Octane Not really, trying to scan the Gunship on the frigate just tells you that you can't get back in because there's a shield in your way (and you don't get the logbook entry). As to how she was able to jump onto the frigate before...

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Octane

@meleebrawler I see. Well, I did notice the scan icon before, I assumed you could scan it right away. I stand corrected.

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Tyranexx

Tally for yesterday evening:
Missiles: 230
Power Bomb Charges: 10 (took me a bit to work out where the last one was)
Beam Ammo: 250
Energy Tanks: 13 (May use a guide to help with the last one)
Items: 94%
Scans: 90%

Edit: I finally found the last Energy Tank in Torvus, in one of the underwater pipe sections. It took a combination of my memory + a guide on the tank locations. Kind of wish I didn't waste my time in Agon first....

I may forgo the last five Missile Expansions for now and just head for the end. 25 missiles shouldn't make too much of a difference, methinks.

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Haru17

@Tyranexx I'm so happy you liked it! I personally love how Echoes feels the most 'alien' of the trilogy, what with the strange blue digital plants in Agon Wastes and the mysterious underwater structure in Torvus, and of course the completely alien and unknowable Ing. And I think the music plays a big part in that too.

I'm not crazy about the aesthetic, but I've never had a hatred for the dark world trope like some do, and enjoyed how Dark Aether felt like a survival horror more than most Metroid Prime areas. I think the limited ammo was part of that.

While Echoes with its environments and story are my second favorite in the series, I feel like it's the most deserving of a remake. Prime 1 doesn't really have any crazy new concepts or huge views that couldn't be realized at the time and on the development timetable it had, and Prime 3 did what it was setting out to do perfectly on the Wii. I would love to see an Echoes remake that blows out the world, Ing and especially Luminoth cultures, war, and Dark Samus rivalry in new ways. Seeing that world before it became destroyed, like when the Ing first started to break through, would be incredible. So, while the game they made is totally a 10/10, I can't help but dream about what's down there in that Luminoth city.

In terms of boss fights... they still haven't gotten good yet. Of course there were some good fights in Echoes, but I feel like Retro didn't go crazy with successive phases and weak spots until Corruption.

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Aurumonado

Echoes is my favourite metroid game and it's in my top 5 video games in general. I agree with everything Haru17 said above.

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Samus7Killer

Cant wait. Hopefully a good mixture of all 3 Prime games.

Make it Great Again like MP1.

Make it Hard Again like Echoes.

Make Multi World Again like Corruption.

After the nonsense of OtherM and Federation Force, Just Make Metroid Great Again! 🇯🇵

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meleebrawler

@Tyranexx Yeah, all the Prime games give the best endings for getting 100% of the items. You're not missing much if you don't get it in 2, though. It's something that gets (accurately) addressed the instant you start Corruption. You haven't seen nothing of what Dark Samus can do yet...

One cool aspect about her is that she is your twisted parallel not only in terms of how she fights you, but also in her general actions. Like you, she explores planets in search of power-ups and new abilities. Unlike you, she does it with an all-in-one substance in Phazon. She basically is a more traditional RPG character, gaining experience and levelling up with increased stats and sometimes new moves. This trend continues in her following appearance, with an even more disturbing method...

"Dark Samus gained 20000 Phazon points. Dark Samus levelled up! +200 HP. +10 Attack. +10 Defence. +50 Intelligence. Dark Samus learned Charge Beam! Dark Samus learned Boost Ball!"

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KirbyTheVampire

I started up Metroid Prime for the first time in like 10 years since I only played it for 45 minutes and wanted to see what all the hype was about, but the lack of an autosave feature promptly led to a ragequit. Maybe I'll pick it up in another 10 years, lol.

Not really that impressed with what I did play, though. Granted, it was just the tutorial section and I died during the evacuation, but the initial gameplay mechanics of running and shooting and scanning 500 different things didn't exactly lead to a positive first impression. Not a fan of the lack of C stick usage, either. It boggles my mind that they didn't use it, and instead make you walk and aim the gun with the same stick.

And from what I've heard, there's not much of a story, which further causes me to not feel like playing it. I can trudge through boring gameplay if there's a good story, but if the main draw is the gameplay, it doesn't really seem like it's my kind of game at all. The gameplay that was there was incredibly basic. Does it improve as the game goes on?

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Aurumonado

@KirbyTheVampire

It's the perfect game - but it sounds like you already formed your opinion before you started.

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KirbyTheVampire

@Aurumonado I'm not forming my definite opinion yet, I'm just saying if the gameplay can be summed up in that area before the evacuation, and if there's not much of a story, it might not be for me, which is why I asked if the game picks up at all after that first area.

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kkslider5552000

The game becomes much better as it goes on, but at the same time, the core gameplay is shown off in that area. It's the world and level design that is different after that, and is part of the appeal.

I'm genuinely trying not to be rude when I say this but it could also be that you currently suck at the game, if the initial area was an actual challenge. I think I died there the first time I played it way back in the day too? So like many good games (especially ones with unusual gameplay) you will probably enjoy it more when you stop sucking at it.

Metroid Prime 1's tutorial area is maybe the only criticism I could ever give it. "Hey here's this series known for great worlds and exploration...explore a linear ship for a half hour". Probably necessary because it was such a weird game to play at first, but it's still well below the quality of the rest of the game.

also you dont have to scan everything lolololol, its optional for a reason

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