I'll just say this about 30 vs 60: some games probably thrive better in 30 FPS. Hear me out: games with 30 FPS can focus on pumping out beautiful visuals/stability and have little compromise to what they want, like a huge open world for Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Super Mario Odyssey shows the sacrifice you need with 60 FPS with more open environments, so for something like Xenoblade (or BotW) where you have these big worlds and loads of enemies on screen with a lot of attacks and effects, 30 FPS is sufficient. Especially Xenoblade where it's not about twitchy action and more about strategy and preparation. (You can't dodge attacks in Xenoblade like a traditional action game so 60 FPS isn't as big of a deal) So it comes down to two choices: 60 FPS but scaled down worlds/number of enemies, or 30 FPS with less limitations on both. It's not just about pure graphics/resolution, it's about what's running around on screen.
Now PC can obviously do whatever, but for consoles (especially exclusives) the choice between 30 and 60 FPS can mean the difference between achieving a vision or having to make some sacrifices to achieve that.
That said personally I do believe that Nintendo generally makes the right choice in aiming for 60 FPS whenever they can unless they can't (like BotW or Xenoblade Chronicles X) and other people can learn from that when making games for a specific hardware. That may sound like a contradiction coming off of what I said that developers should aim for their vision and their choice of framerate should reflect that, but that's just what I personally want to see.
Anyway onto Doom, you can sum it up as a "Nintendo game not made by Nintendo". It's very kinetic, defies a lot of usual genre tropes (like reloading), and gameplay is always on the forefront with very Metroid Prime-like storytelling. I have a feeling this will be a very big hit with Nintendo gamers. Yes, 30 FPS is disappointing, but they probably can't get it at 60 FPS without heavy compromises of its own.
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Yes, in Splatoon 2 Inkopolis frequently dips below 30fps. It's not steady at all. Just Google and I think it was a DigitalFoundry article. And yea,the CoD thing was on Youtube a few years ago, but I'm not going to spend an hour of my life digging around for it.
Anyway, I stand by my claim. Would be interesting to do a little experiment of your own, I think. Get a sibling or friend or someone and put them in front of a TV running a game they're not knowledgeable of. Ask them if it's running at 30 or 60. Make sure they haven't viewed anything else on a screen for an hour or so beforehand, and make sure the game runs at a STEADY 30 or 60. There can be no dips or spikes. And obviously no other screens in the room for contrast.
The even better thing would be to try it on yourself. Try to have a friend or family member set up the experiment for YOU. That would be tougher because they'd have to get a game you've never seen before AND have no knowledge of technical specs.
Still no LA Noire on the eShop, but at least DOOM is showing.
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Ya. Wish they'd add these games sooner to gain more exposure. Some of the more casual gamers might only check the eshop once every two months. And if they wait until a week before the game releases to add it to the coming soon section (if at all, looking at you, Nights of Azure 2), there's a good chance people won't even see it- and once it's released it's quickly lost in the bottomless pit of currently available games. If it's lucky enough to be a top seller it might get some exposure that way but still, that's no guarantee and even if it does, it will likely drop off after a week or two if it's not an evergreen title.
I noticed Skyrim is holding steady in the 50's on Amazon's Top 100 list for Video Games category. But DOOM, while once peaking in the low 60's after its release date announcement, is now in the #99 spot, 7 less than Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (despite the fact it's releasing in a week, and the fact XC2 is a niche game, and despite XC2 already having a top selling Collector Edition for several weeks)
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They will look on Me whom they pierced
@JaxonH I think Doom needs to hit as close to 750k as possible. That's pretty good with the current install base but that sounds like a lot even if by years end there's 10 million Switches in the wild. This is still largely Nintendo fans looking for Nintendo games.
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If I was only ever able to have Monster Hunter and EO games in the future, I would be a happy man.
Destiny 2 is 30fps on all consoles (even X1X) so 60fps clearly isn't absolutely essential for a top level shooter to be played and enjoyed by the masses - or to be a massive success...don't get me wrong, 60 is ideal - but 30 is perfectly playable - and, for me at least, portability > 60fps (provided that the trade-off is a drop to a stable 30 - dips below 30 can, admittedly, be pretty jarring!) ..to me, the bigger shame is that the level creator tools won't be present - that kinda stings - but still isn't the end of the world I guess ..the Switch currently has a 'first-person shooter void' and, by all accounts, the impressions people seem to be giving from their hands-on time with the Switch version at demonstration events etc. appear to indicate that DOOM is going to fill that void remarkably well ..exciting times!
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I only think it's optional if you buy the cartridge and simply choose to not download the MP update.
Digital will be the full game. Physically you can opt whether to update the game to receive the MP download
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@Agriculture 45minutes?? Even with the best internet speed that seems too fast for that size. Were you able to preload before purchase?
It's just a standard 250 Mbit/s internet. It should take around 40-45 minutes to download around 75 gb on it. It costs 30 dollars a month, which I think is fair.
I could get 500 Mbit, but it cost 60 dollars a month. I can also chose 1 Gbit, but it's 90 dollars a month, which way to much to spend on an internet connection. It would only take 12 minutes to download the game on a 1 Gbit connection.
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