Topic: Mario Kart World

@Bigmanfan What do you think of removing random and having 1 or 2 guaranteed three lap options? 60-70 to 40-30 sounds like a good split given how many intermission options there are compared to just full tracks

@a1904 Yeah I would be so fine with that. A 70-30 split is exactly what I want. I like intermission tracks, they're a nice bit of variety, but they shouldn't be the main option. Ideally though, they just give us a dedicated worldwide mode for intermissions, and another for standard races. Just give people options it's not that crazy.

@rallydefault It's not just what I see on YT and forums, it's what I see in the game. Random is getting picked like 80 percent of the time in my opinion. And if their intention isn't to upset people, what is it? This change just makes it harder for a large group of players to play the mode they like. They pretty much said, "You don't like our gimmick? Well, you're gonna like it or else."

IMO this is what the 'race' mode should have been from the beginning. 24 players and intermission sections feel like they were made for Knockout Tour specifically and I think should have been kept to that mode. Then expand Knockout Tour to pick a random route from any of the possible intermission sections and ending points rather than just having the same eight rallies each race.

As it stands I think the regular races kinda suck because it's too many players and the straight sections are kinda boring for it and Knockout Tour also kinda sucks because of the extremely limited number of routes it can take which leads to you just driving down the same roads over and over if you play the mode a lot.

@Bigmanfan
Why would a for-profit company want to make their fans mad? Just think logically. They must be seeing data on their end that is guiding this decision.

What is your online rank? I’m 8k and also see mostly random picks. But most people aren’t 8k or above. I would wager most people stay in the 6k-ish range, and at the lower ranges people don’t pick random as much.

@BenAV
Yea, I agree. Pretty much what the competitive players do in their custom lobbies.

@rallydefault Idk man. Not every decision is made by the money people. I imagine changes likes this come down to the developers, who were probably just mad people didn't like the new gimmick. I probably won't respond on this thread anymore though. I'm just not gonna be playing the game anymore with this change, so I now have no reason to be in this thread. Truly unfortunate.

@Bigmanfan
You really think even the devs would just want to make players mad?

@rallydefault I don't want to be rude and ignore your reply, but this is genuinely probably my last post for the time being. I don't actually think they're trying to make people mad necessarily, rather they're upset people weren't playing what they wanted, so they decided to force them to. But anyway, I don't want my disgruntled outlook on the game to ruin it for people who enjoy it, so I will no longer be posting on this thread, at least until they fix this change.

Wasn't there an article about fans being up arms about the latest update? I was going to read that.

TBH I find it hard to believe that it was Nintendo's intent to force people to play intermission tracks against their will, but that this update was meant to address some other problem. Unfortunately Nintendo is so opaque when it comes to these things that it just feels like they're being spiteful.

I paid $80 so Nintendo can hold online track racing and weaponless online modes (mushrooms only, coins only) hostage until their marketing decide they want to "surprise" us with these basic options in Direct in an unknown number of years.

As an MK7 and MK8 lover, this update has effectivley removed my motivation to race online. Intermission races already lost their novelty.

How long did it take for community racing to be brought to MK8? That helped, but all it did was fragment weaponless racing into searching a list of mostly vacant lobbies, trying to find the one lobby/room that had some players. Which would easily be solved with a single dedicated mushrooms only online mode.

@Dr_Corndog Honestly I really do think it is just Nintendo trying to force players to play the intermission tracks against their will. They can be pretty stubborn when they decide that a game is meant to be played in a specific way.

@WoomyNNYes It's not weaponless, but there are competitive lounge events for MKW being held regularly already. There's actually a lot of tactical use for the weapons once you learn it, so you might give it a try. You might find what you want on the Mario Kart Discord server, as well.

Who on earth coined the term ‘intermission tracks’? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

An ‘intermission’ is when you’re sat in the lobby waiting for the next race to start, not when you’re driving from one place to the next.

@Kairuuu To be fair, it's about as fun as sitting in a lobby.

@WoomyNNYes
They already have community stuff going on. Competitive, different rulesets, traditional 3-lap races, etc. Just hop on the discord to check it out.

That being said, they need to just split the online GP into two modes: with and without travel courses. You have millions of people who have this game, most of whom won’t even notice this change, but now you have the vocal minority (internet) screaming the game is “ruined,” which just isn’t a good look no matter what.

This isn't the end of the world as we know it.... but yeah, Nintendo just need to add in "traditional 3 lap" mode - surely not a huge requirement for resource?

@rallydefault I agree that it's a minority if you're talking about all owners of MKW. A lot of people play it with their families and never go online. But among people who play online? I don't know. Maybe still a minority, but a sizeable one, I have to think.

I'm not especially good at MKW. I'm definitely not part of the competitive scene. I'm at about 8200 VR online due to being generally "good" at video games, but 8200 isn't that high. I'd say people around that level are about the same as me: they enjoy Mario Kart, they play to win, but they aren't super sweaty or competing in real competitive events. And every time I've been online lately, those people have been picking random to get the 3-lap tracks.

All that is to say, there's this idea that it's only the super hardcore who are upset about this update, and I don't think it's true. In my experience, most people who spend a significant amount of time with the online mode want to play 3-lap tracks. So while Nintendo isn't affecting the majority of the people who own MKW, I think it's likely they're alienating a very large portion of the ones who play the game online.

Found 22 P-Switches. Hopefully they stay this varied. I flew on the back of a plane today.

They probably got more complaints that random didn't truly mean random.