Topic: Unpopular Gaming Opinions

@TheLastLugia: I'm not "sticking up" for Square-Enix or anyone else, I'm simply pointing out that it's irrational to condemn their scores of good mobile releases because one or two of them sucked. It's even more irrational to condemn all the games available on a platform because a few games suck. If you choose to interpret that as me defending a certain company you don't like, that's your problem. I made my point VERY clear.

@Ralizah: @TheLastLugia: Hey guys no need to argue here. We can both agree that SEGA is the worst of them all right?

I mean for pete's sake, They released literally nothing but average games last year and they somehow end up being the best publisher last year. What a twist!

@Socar: I just said what I am surprised to see was an unpopular opinion, fitting right in with the this thread. One individual in particular took umbidge about it and after a bit of to-and-fro I lost track of where it ended up. I apparently 'lost', much to the chagrin of the individual but my opinion hasn't changed. The fact that talentless hacks can release a game where the only involvement from the 'player' is digging out their credit card so their taps/swipes on the screen have some sort of meaning is a blight on the game industry as a whole, and most certainly tars my opinion of mobile gaming as a worthwhile time-killer, as DKM/FFATB cannot be played for more than five minutes tops before the waiting game commences. Why there are fans of these 'games' is beyond me.

But yeah that Sega thing was nonsense. Kinda why Metacritic can't be taken seriously.

@Socar: what about Aliens:Isolation, that one was good

@Socar: But KONAMI!!! They:
Cancelled Silent Hills
Fired Kojima, Lied about Firing Kojima and Refused to let Kojima take an award for his game
Turned Silent Hill, Castlevania and Metal Gear into Pachinko Machines
Released the last gen PES 16 on PC while still showing screenshots from the current gen version on its Steam page, and bundled it with itself because Steam bundles don't show reviews, and that would mean they could hide the mixed reviews from fans
Sold HORSE ARMOR DLC for Metal Gear Solid V!!!

Also Football Manager, easily the most addictive game I play to the point I try to not even buy it...yet I always give in and get it.

@diwdiws: that is true. I'd say that makes up for their involvement in Colonial Marines. Just.

SEGA is all over the place. We get great moves like most of those 3D remasters on 3DS, upgraded Valkyria Chronicles on PC. giving some of the recent Yakuza games an international release, Alien isolation, and the Project Diva games. Then we get horrible ones like Colonial Marines and the last few Sonic games. Also, they've released some pretty good mobile ports, so my feelings about them are overall pretty positive, although I refuse to buy new Sonic games anymore. They really need some sort of quality control with that franchise.

To be fair, Nintendo is all over the place as well. Censoring everything, releasing several mediocre-to-bad first party games on the Wii U this year, and having a profoundly spotty virtual console release schedule, both in general and between regions.
It's a good thing that, when they're good, they're great with regard to their games.

@Ralizah: Nintendo aren't censoring everything. They aren't even close. The only thing Nintendo censors is what they have to censor to get the rating they need to sell their games. Nintendo aren't any worse than any other company in this regard. If Nintendo hadn't censored Fire Emblem: Fates and Xenoblade Chronicles X, their sales might suffer a lot. Worst case scenario: They sell so bad that we won't be getting another Fire Emblem or Xenoblade Chronicles game.

@AlliMeadow: You've opened a can of worms there by questioning this person. They go on a rant all day about how one person is being silly with their opinion of the mobile game market being precarious, and how it's stupid to take 2 or 3 games as representing the popular model of the market. Then they post this comment, where they take 2 or 3 games and consider them to represent an entire company. Uh-huh.

So yeah I'll warn you in advance. You'll be lucky to escape being called a 'censorship apologist' for just looking at this a different way to this person. Tread veeeeeeery carefully.

@AlliMeadow: "If Nintendo hadn't censored Fire Emblem: Fates and Xenoblade Chronicles X, their sales might suffer a lot. " What? Man the things that people write on the internet it amazes me every time.

@diwdiws: That game wasn't released last year and isn't developed by SEGA at all now was it?

@arronishere: Football Manager is basically Championship Manager only rebranded as Football Manager. Again, a game published by SEGA and not developed by SEGA.

@DarthNocturnal: I don't have to play them because I have seen the gameplay footage outside of youtube and from professional reviewers that are outside of youtube.

SEGA not releasing horrible games in the past few years? That just shows how much you haven't seen much of bad SEGA games. Sonic Boom, and what? Barely announced anything at E3. Honestly, you guys criticize Nintendo very often and yet when SEGA is pretty much at the same level as Nintendo, they don't get the same level of hate as Nintendo because of third party logic?

Next thing you'll say that they finally released Yakuza 5 even though its not really at the change of heart that they did it. Its simply Sony that made it happen to the west. The game was neither advertised properly nor was it released either on PS4 or PC thus telling us that SEGA doesn't give a damn about the western market. Proof of this? The next Yakuza game is releasing on 2017 instead of this year. Oh and Persona 5? The game that SEGA isn't developing but instead its Atlus which you know the ones that SEGA looked at and realized that they need to make quality games from this point on (which they still haven't done but instead, its just promises) is also released next year. So it took those dunderheads so long to realize that sometimes, it might be a good idea to delay games when Nintendo has demonstrated from time to time again.

SEGA is pretty much dead. They betrayed their fans, they like many other stupid third parties cut jobs and to top it off, they can't even do a proper fully fledged ports on their own and rely on outsourcing. I assure you that SEGA wouldn't be able to release 3D Classics on their own internally. They were just lucky that M2 is around else, they are literally nothing.

I feel that SEGA has stolen Nintendo's lucky charm. Nothing but sheer luck is coming from SEGA. When Nintendo was on downfall last year, SEGA was top. When Nintendo showed some mixed results, SEGA boosted more profits. I keep saying this over again, SEGA is nothing without the companies that they bought. Without Atlus, they are nothing, without Creative Assembly, they are nothing etc.

I feel Nintendo is getting more hate towards the industry compared to many third parties out there and SEGA is one of those lucky third parties that do absolutely nothing and make the most profit somehow.

Tl;dr Sega=Bad, yet all I want to do is talk about them.

@AlliMeadow: Two things.

1) There's no evidence that the things they've removed would affect the marketability of their games either way. Most people don't care if the content is there or not, so the people who would boycott it in either direction would have little to no impact on their sales. One possible exception I could see to this is the stupid "gay conversion" support conversation in Fates. I could see people turning that into some big controversy.

2) I don't think it has anything to do with obtaining certain ratings for their games. If it did, then they would have had no reason to censor Fatal Frame V, which was going to be an M rated game to begin with. And there's nothing explicit enough with regard to skinshipping to move the game's rating, more than likely. If there was a problem, it'd be with some of the flirtier dialogue that pops up in the mode once in a while, and they could easily change or remove that.

Now, see, if I was following your lead, I'd condemn everything released by Nintendo because of their sketchy localizations of a few games. Actually, I'd condemn everything in the console gaming space. That's how absurd your "mobile gaming sucks because I don't like All the Bravest" sounds to other people. And yes, I'll admit, they "censor everything" was hyperbole on my part, but it certainly feels that way sometimes.

@Socar: it was made by SEGA's money by a developer OWNED by SEGA, SEGA also published it. To cap it all off you specifically were complaining why SEGA became the PUBLISHER of the year. Organize your thoughts boy.

@diwdiws: That's just the point. What the hell did they publish/release last year? Not that many games at all.

@DarthNocturnal: Problem is that I need to get a desktop inorder to play their "So called great games". Besides, I just played a couple of Sega Genesis games and besides revenge of Shinobi and Phantasy star 2, the other games are just generic and boring to play. Beyond Oasis is barely fun for instance.

Sometimes, seeing a game can give an easy judgement of whether the game is worth purchasing or not. Are you trying to tell me to get Sonic Boom knowing that the game is horrible?

I think you should, I'd imagine you'll have hours of fun going "look at how terrible it is I knew SEGA is evil and this is the proof it needs to die HA HA HA HA HA HA now one more level to see how evil Sega is again HA HA HA HA". That's at least 100 hours of gameplay for you right there.

@Ralizah: You really are great at telling me what my opinion should be. Almost as good as you are for missing the point. Again. But none of those come anywhere near to your forté of hyperbole. You really are multi-talented!

@TheLastLugia: If I misrepresented your opinion, then please, feel free to correct me.

Do you really think Nintendo of America and Nintendo of Europe censors content because of some sort of ethical reason? Is there any other reason for Nintendo to censor games other than increasing sales? I think not. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the ratings of the games would have been the same either way, but I'm pretty sure that Nintendo's market analyzing teams have a better understanding on how censoring improves sales. We must not forget that Nintendo's main audience are children.

As for your point about Fatal Frame V, I have nothing to add. I'm not familiar with the case, and I've never played a Fatal Frame game, so it would be difficult for me to write anything about the matter.

When it comes the removing of features that may be considered anti-gay, it really is a no-brainer. Nintendo received huge backlash because of Tomodachi Life's exclusion of gay relationships, and Nintendo can't afford to be seen as anti-gay in any way. I realize that Nintendo most likely aren't anti-gay, but they have yet to take a position in the debate, and in this day and age if you haven't made your stance clear many people will misconstrue what you do to make you seem anti-gay, etc. But that really isn't a discussion to have here on this site.

Last, I want to say this. I don't like that Nintendo is removing content from certain games. I don't like anyone doing it. I do, however, understand why they do it, and I don't think any company deserve back-lash for removing content that may hurt their sales. If we weren't living in a society where "please, won't someone think of the children!" is running rampant, then Nintendo and others wouldn't have to remove content to appease the crowd and the rating systems.