Topic: Unpopular Gaming Opinions

@dmcc0 This isn't true. While there are games that need the internet in order for you to even play once- a good number of games are actually still on the disc day 1. Most games aren't like Animal Crossing New Horizons or Pokemon BDSP, where you need a patch in order to play them start to finish with all the features. Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth is a game that's on the entire disc. Sure, there's bugs that a day one patch would fix- but the game is completely and entirely playable with just the one Disc. Same with Final Fantasy XVI, or Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door Remake. You can pop these games in and install them even without an internet connection, with them still working.

A good number of physical games are still at least playable- which means you still own a basic copy of the game itself.

The Crew isn't the only Ubisoft title I'm referring to. Pretty sure there were a few other games that they ripped out of people's libraries that weren't just "online only." I know that Sony and Funimation have ripped movies and games from people's libraries without those being online only, which is why I personally will never buy a digital copy outside of something like steam.

@jedgamesguy The way I see the copying thing is moreso like how downloading or installing a game used to be on PC. When you used to buy PC games, you'd used to have to install it onto the device using the disc. It's not really any different here.

There certainly are Switch games that come without a day one patch. I'd just dispute that there's a good number of them. I've got about five cartridges like that myself. Maybe you'd have more luck if you specifically hunted them out or waited a year or two to pick up the later revisions of games that came with the games already patched.

As before though, preserving the complete versions of games is relatively easy and doesn't require physical media. It's just something that doesn't get talked about much for current generation games because we don't want to encourage the pirates.

A good number come with a Day 1 patch, but those aren't needed to start the game generally. You can still play the game all the way through without the day 1 patch. Sure- there'll be a few more bugs, but most titles are still fully playable without you needing that patch.

I'm mostly talking about playing on original hardware. I know that preserving the game with the patch content is possible, but if you want to play on the original hardware- I'd much rather just own physical. Stop any company from deciding to strip the game out of my library.

@MarioVillager92 Hotter take: I actually like Team Sonic Racing more. I don’t know if it’s the lack of Sonic things relative to TSR, the different mechanics, or what, but I find Transformed to just kinda feel worse in general. I got bored with it really quickly the last time I played it. That’s not to say TSR is perfect, but I still enjoy it a good bit for what it is.

@VoidofLight I was aware of the Sony Funimation removal and some TV stuff (Discovery?), but wasn't aware of any games.

I'm not sure which bit isn't true, but regardless, my point was that a physical version no longer guarantees you can play the full game like it used to before consoles were online. Sure, most are still fully on the disc/cart, but there are probably more games that need a download/online connection where the physical may be useless, than have been games removed from players libraries at this point.

Edit: Just to add that The Crew was removed from Steam players libraries too so it's not just a console issue.

@dmcc0 Even if it were shows that Sony removed, it still sets a dangerous precedent for digital content at large. I just tend to feel uncomfortable with digital game purchases outside of PC now.. and even with PC- I begrudgingly do it because there's often no other choice.

@VoidofLight Yeah I agree. I think all-digital on consoles will happen eventually, but maybe not for a couple of generations. Always online and less content on physical is just their way of pushing customers towards that - it'll get to a point where people start to wonder why they are bothering with physical media and just go digital.

@dmcc0 Exactly. Then people will basically be at their mercy- unless digital ownership rights are clearly defined.

@VoidofLight You can play dumped games on original hardware too. Without reference to current generation hardware, it's not uncommon for people to dump their libraries for older consoles onto a single flash cart or hard drive to save on media swapping and the associated wear and tear.

In any case, I'd think we're talking at least a decade from now until we get to a hypothetical situation where you'd no longer be able to re-download your digital purchases for Switch. Wii and DSi games are still available for re-download after all, so long as you've still got the hardware they are tied to, and the Switch account system should remove that limitation.

That said, I'd still tend to buy my absolute keepers as physical media, particularly if there's a special edition available with extras like art books and soundtracks. I just don't count the cartridges as complete versions of the games because, except in some rare cases, they aren't.

@MarioVillager92 Yup, as long as it didn't use real money I don't see a problem. Even in a few free-to-play games, I only tend to open lootboxes with free currency earned from playing instead of spending real money. That's what I do with Asphalt 9 and Disney Speedstorm. That's correct, especially given Crash Team Racing is a game you already paid for. I feel microtransactions have no place in it. I get why free-to-play games have them, but don't see a need for them in games I already paid for.

I could do that too, I have it on PC and you are on my Steam friends list. I just have to find time to reinstall it.

@Sunsy Yeah. I just don't use real money toward stuff like this. Especially for games I already bought! So I just ignore the microtransactions in CTR, and just play the game normally. I'll have to reinstall TSR as well, since I have a new PC now.

@Mew That's definitely a hotter take for sure, that's the first time I've heard someone say they prefer Team Sonic Racing over Transformed, lol.

The direct reminded me that I don't get why people are hyped over Donkey Kong and Mario Party games. The games look dumb as hell.

I can't imagine an argument existing in which Mario Party and Donkey Kong are the games that stand out as "look dumb" by Nintendo standard, but I'm curious to see you try.

Switch popularity kinda disappointed me for some reason as there are still a lot of dirty business practice such as partial download, code in box, streaming only, downgraded quality, etc.
Used to be I was really hyped with Switch during year 2018 and 2019, but now my hype is switched to PS5 when talking about 3rd party kids games.
I still looking for 1st party on Switch, but I don't have heartbeat feeling like before.

@kkslider5552000 My Nintendo standard is The Legend of Zelda and Metroid. I do not like goofy games.

@Zuljaras Legend of Zelda series is often pretty goofy tbh. They put in a chain chomp! And apparently Zelda now makes magical tables.

@FishyS Those are more cute looking than goofy. There are franchises that are just unbearable for me That also includes Kirby, Tomba, Splatoon. With that said I like Bubble Bobble and Toki but that is probably due to nostalgia.

@Zuljaras Kirby isn't goofy, just pure cute. And Forgotten Lands is a just a high quality 3D adventure platformer. Maybe you just don't like certain art styles?

@FishyS Maybe that. Btw I do not like only Mario Party not the whole Mario franchise. So, there is that.