Topic: Unpopular Gaming Opinions

@WaffleBoat you can't connect a switch lite to a tv mo matter what you do.

@Kermit1
thanks for the clarification.

@WaffleBoat np (no problem)

First playthrough yes, not subsequent playthroughs. Except the acid trip scene in Twilight Princess. That one never gets old.

@Euler
I will say, even short intros like Ocarina or BoTW are annoying on second playthroughs. I don’t think there is a way to make an intro great on every playthrough. Plus on Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess ( at least in the HD version) you can skip cutscenes on a second playthrough.

I strongly disagree with BOTW. It was obvious in hindsight that I could easily replay the intro to BOTW and play a lot of it very, very differently.

@kkslider5552000
Obviously I can only speak from my experience, but the Great Plateau was great on a first playthrough, but ever since then it’s become one of the worst parts of the game for me.

On my end, I feel like BotW sort of peaks at the Great Plateau in a way. The stuff after is alright, but I hardly remember it as much as I do the Plateau. It also feels like the Plateau had more care put into it over the rest of the map, given the many ways of traversal they showcase within the one area (some of which, like cutting down logs and using them as bridges, never really come up that often again). I also have the unpopular opinion of not liking the champion abilities, and much prefer to play the game as it is before you obtain them, given that there's this sort of feel that goes away once you obtain them.

@Euler The comparison is not good. One affects the employees of the 3rd party shop and the other do not affect anyone. Distribution is bad but it can't be stopped.

Also you claim that people know the difference between piracy and emulation... nope they don't. Most are mindless sheep that say "emulation bad".

Actually I have seen people who claim that the second hand gaming market is hurting the industry.

I used to pirate everything online but then I got a job. I've done it privately only for myself so I am not ashamed one bit

This fake high moral acting from people is quite funny

@Link-Hero Actually it is not. The Second-hand market is an industry of its own. You cannot expect that if a person wants something he should ONLY buy it from the manufacturer etc.

We can't assume that everything should be done in perfect conditions as it is never the case.

The copy that is bought from one person is a profit for the creator even if a second person buys it from the original owner. The first one does not own the copy anymore and could not use it. If you are making illegal copies of the original one and selling them then it is really bad.

If you ever bought from GOG you know that if I buy a game, I could just redistribute it to 10000000000 more people, and they will have the exact same copy I own because GOG releases do not have DRM. So how do they make money? Simple, from honest people and they are still in business.

The gaming industry is actually one of the greediest in the world. I can even claim that it does not need protection (DRM crap), as piracy is rampant from the very beginning. Right now, I could pirate EVERY game even the newest ones and the industry will not even flinch!

Kids games by Outright Games are acceptable enough for me despite I knew some of the games are mediocre or too short.
And for anybody who keep spouting negativity about Outright Games, you better back off and hush.
There is always the fans or audiences for the games by Outright Games.

Yes, theft does affect employees of Nintendo. If the company loses profit because it is stolen from them, they hire fewer employees or pay them less. The difference between buying second-hand and piracy is that only the latter is theft. Nintendo obviously doesn't make money from it, but they already received credit for the copy they had the exclusive legal right to produce. The same way that used book stores aren't piracy, but posting a PDF of the book on the internet is.

People say "emulation bad" because "emulation" is generally used as shorthand for illegally distributing ROMs by its apologists. Nobody has any problem with emulation itself (running a program on a system it wasn't originally designed to run on).

The thing is simple in my opinion. If a company isn't going to give us the ability to replay their old games, then those games are free to take for your own. For example, take Professor Layton. The only releases of those games are for mobile devices, and they significantly neutered some of the puzzles in those releases. If you want to play the original version of the game, you're out of luck, since Level 5 won't re-release or remake them. So therefore, you kind of have to result to piracy or buying second hand if you want the game itself, and buying second hand is extremely expensive now given how horrible the used game market is. I don't pirate, but I get why people do when it comes to older games.

Newer games on the other hand are inexcusable.

It isn't wrong or stupid to like a game/franchise everyone else hates. This is really basic, but few fools online actually understand this basic logic sometimes.

@VoidofLight I would like one ticket to “the right take” train please.

I don't want to fall back into this debate because obviously neither side is ever going to convince the other of anything, but you DO have the ability to replay a company's old games. You said it yourself. You just don't WANT to because it can be expensive. (And I don't necessarily mean you specifically since you said you don't pirate. I mean all the people justifying it.) I don't want to spend $5 on a carton of eggs. Does that make it okay to steal them? With exorbitant restaurant prices nowadays I can easily spend $100 after tax and tip to take my family of four to a restaurant. Does that make it okay to dine-and-dash? So why is okay with video games? If any of them were acceptable, I would argue for my examples because eating is a necessity to live unlike playing Layton (although if any video game was necessary, Layton would be close).

@Xyphon22 I get that gaming isn't a necessity to live, but at the same time, the game itself isn't being resold within this case. At least, not by the original company. It's being sold by a price gouger. Someone who's hording a copy of the game and pricing it into the 200-300 dollar range. You'd have to be fairly rich to actually genuinely get hands upon a copy that works, and most people who want to experience said game can't do so. It hurts just as much when the game is in a series that requires you to play them all, and said company won't re-release the game for the audience buying the new one.

For example, again take Layton. The games have an over-arching story that requires you to play them in the order that they came out. If you don't play the games in order, then you'll most likely miss the plotline that they're writing. The new Layton will most likely be a continuation of the others, and not a good starting point for newcomers, unless they've played the other games. Unless Level 5 remasters all the Layton games for switch, most of the people who want to play the new one are going to be completely out of luck.

@Xyphon22 Bro what money are they getting from a 20 year old game I bought of of Ebay for 100 dollars? None, there not getting anything, so I don’t see the problem, if they want the money they could re sell it on there current console, people would buy it.

@VoidofLight “ Unless Level 5 remasters all the Layton games for switch, most of the people who want to play the new one are going to be completely out of luck.” out of luck? Naw, you just should have 100 dollars to throw at a game, an old one at that.

@Snatcher I do not know how to explain to people that emulating a game that is no longer available to buy from the creators is not stealing

I know the meaning to play the game as it was originally intended as I do those things and I own an NES for example but if someone want to play older title or a title that is no longer offered anywhere except for the second hand market, then I say ... just get it via other means Jack Sparrow style!

But no, we have to be "moral" about it! If you do not have 300$ to spend you do not have to play it

Absolutely idiotic

@Zuljaras How is spending 300 bucks for an overpriced game even moral anyway, I don’t even know how it’s stealing, it’s ridiculous, I only feel bad if it’s something you can actually get for a normal reasonable price, digital or physical, im not spending over 100 just to play bowsers inside story Lmao.