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Tasuki

@Xyphon22 Makes sense, I just got confused when you said you got an Animal Crossing guide, thought you meant a walkthrough type guide lol.

I am the same way although I will admit that I used a walkthrough a little bit for FFA but that was mainly cause of the poor map design in the overworld and lack of direction in game.

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Xyphon22

@Tasuki Well, Animal Crossing is a little different. Yes, it's the official guide, but it's not like it is telling me how to defeat a tricky boss or anything. There really can't be a "walkthrough" for Animal Crossing, and I mainly use it for the checklists to know what items I already have. Regardless, I'm still really looking forward to playing this, it just may be a little longer than I hoped before I get around to it.

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Tasuki

@Xyphon22 Ah ok that makes sense lol. Yeah I am thinking I might start Secret of Mana up here soon. Haven't figured out if I want to play it on the Collection or SNES mini. Then after that I will move onto Trials.

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Xyphon22

So I'm finally getting around to diving into Trials of Mana (the original on the Collection of Mana, not the remake). I'm using Duran, Charlotte, and Hawkeye. It is definitely simpler than SoM with only one weapon and not having to keep switching and leveling up different ones. But there does not seem to be any strategy that I'm aware of. I just kind of mash A (and B when the gauge fills up) and heal with Charlotte or candies whenever I have to. I also don't know if I'm missing something, but I still only have 2 magic powers (heal and cure ailments for Charlotte, nothing for the other 2) even though I have 4 or 5 of the elementals and it says they have given me their power. Do I have to do something to unlock it, or do they not give me magic like they did in SoM? A manual definitely would have been helpful, but I think I'm doing okay without one.

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Xyphon22

Sorry for the double post, but seriously, how do you get magic in this game? I've tried to figure it out online and thought I knew it. But I've raised the correct stats whenever I level up and last night I finally got to a Mana stone to change my classes for all three characters, but still the only magic anyone has is the same original two healing spells that Charlotte has always had. What am I doing wrong?

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BruceCM

Which elemental(s) do you have .... ? Spells are in the training menu, too?

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Xyphon22

@BruceCM I just got Undine, so I have like five or six of them. What's the training menu? There's the menu where you press right and there are a bunch of boxes that are supposed to show your moves, but Duran's and Hawkeye's are all empty and Charlotte just has the two.

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BruceCM

Heh, there's moves, skills & abilities .... Confused yet? Only some characters, like Charlotte, get magic much earlier than others, while others get more abilities or skills! I've only played the remake, mind you, which I think made various differences, so exactly how you do it originally, I dunno, sorry

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Xyphon22

@BruceCM That's alright. It's just very confusing, and the fact that it was never in English before until now makes it hard to look anything up to figure it out. I thought you just had to raise certain attributes high enough, but that didn't do it. Then I thought the problem was you had to change class first, but that hasn't done it either. So I'm at a loss. I guess I've made it this far without magic, though, so hopefully I can just keep toughing it out until I get them.

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BruceCM

Yeah, the others should at least be getting some of the other stuff but it varies quite a bit, @Xyphon22.... Most of the guides seem to be for the recent remake
There must be some here who played the collection, though

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Omedru

Xyphon22 wrote:

Sorry for the double post, but seriously, how do you get magic in this game? I've tried to figure it out online and thought I knew it. But I've raised the correct stats whenever I level up and last night I finally got to a Mana stone to change my classes for all three characters, but still the only magic anyone has is the same original two healing spells that Charlotte has always had. What am I doing wrong?

You're doing nothing wrong. After the first class change you can unlock (depending on the chosen classes) more spells/skills every level by training the right stat. There are VERY few spells to unlock when still playing the base classes and training the corresponding stats doesn't immediatly unlock the spells after a class change.. one unlock per level. You can easily look it up in an online guide.. the game has been out for about 20 years as a fan translation (Seiken Densetsu 3) so there are numerous comprehensive guides (Gamefaqs or a Wiki page).

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Omedru

Omedru

BruceCM wrote:

Yeah, the others should at least be getting some of the other stuff but it varies quite a bit, @Xyphon22.... Most of the guides seem to be for the recent remake
There must be some here who played the collection, though

You can write a small book using all guides from the original game.. :

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/588648-seiken-densetsu-3/faqs

And the original game didn't have moves, spells or abilities. The system was very different.

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Xyphon22

@Omedru So you are saying that I should start learning them after I first level up after the class change? Like for Duran, it says I should learn Diamond Saber with my Piety/Spirit at level 7, but it was already past that before I changed classes. So the next time I level up, I should learn it?

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Xyphon22

Alright! After however long it has been, I've finally beaten the original Trials of Mana (and thus the whole Collection of Mana). I think it did become a lot better once I finally sort of figured out what the heck I was doing, but that took a whole lot of looking up multiple guides on GameFAQS and the like and sort of took away from the experience; and so I think Final Fantasy Adventure is still my favorite of the three. It also kind of stinks that I feel like I've only seen 1/6 of the story and such (or maybe 1/3, as it seems like groups of 2 share the same basic story), but I have no desire to play through it all again just to get some more story and a different final boss fight (although that is crazy that the game has 3 different final bosses, based on what I've read).

For those who have played both this and the remake, are there considerable differences besides the obvious graphics and shift to 3D? I definitely don't feel the need to play the original again, but I might be willing to give the remake a shot so I can use different characters if the gameplay is different enough to warrant it. Or it at least explains things much better.

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BruceCM

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Xyphon22

@BruceCM Wow, that's a lot of (albeit minor) differences. I didn't read through all of the minor ones, but the major differences seem to mostly apply to after you already beat the game once, plus a new ability system. I'm not sure if one new system warrants buying a whole new game. Maybe when I have much less to play than I do at the moment. And I'll give the demo a try, since I don't think I ever started that up although I downloaded it.

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BruceCM

Yeah, I never got the Collection, since I'd had Adventures & Secret of Mana for Android, then got the remake of SoM on Vita, @Xyphon22 ... So, I skipped straight to the remake for Trials! Maybe when that goes on sale again it'd be worth getting for you? I certainly enjoyed that version

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Xyphon22

@BruceCM Yeah, I've seen it on sale quite a bit, so I might bite eventually. My biggest problem is just the vast number of RPGs I already own and haven't played, so I don't feel a need to add another one right now. But I had never played any of the Mana games before except for about an hour of SoM on the SNES Classic, so the Collection was definitely worth it. And I think if everything was explained better so I actually knew what I was doing I would have enjoyed Trials a lot more, and I am assuming the remake probably does. But I have now re-downloaded the demo, so I'll give that a go here in the next couple of days probably, once I take a little break from that world, probably to dive back into Skyrim.

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BruceCM

Well, it doesn't explain things like a modern game does, @Xyphon22 .... I, at least, didn't need to look too much up with it, though! See how demo goes, anyway

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Mana_Knight

Secret of Mana is the greatest game ever (to me)! I cannot understate its influence on me. I even make a live action web series adapted from it .

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