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solitonmedic

With the FCC voting against net neutrality today, ISPs now have greater control over their networks, what does this mean for everyone else?

Changes are pending for sure for the States, but would the events today trinkle down to the rest of the world or would things remain the same?

solitonmedic

neufel

The situation is dependent on a lot of things. But yeah, countries with regional monopolies or with weak oversight were probably worried even before the vote.

But yeah this could ultimately hurt some video game companies like Nintendo. If your Splatoon online game becomes unreliable, who are you angry at, your ISP or Nintendo?

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Biff_ARMStrong

I'll take giant corportations controlling the internet over Government and MEGA corporations like Google and Facebook running things. More people should be celebrating but they're being tricked.

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Goatman

@Biff_ARMStrong EXACTLY.

Op and everyone crying are fools. The internet was free and open since it's inception, all of a sudden Obama, Google and Facebook decide they want to control things more so they make a new law. All the FCC did was put it back to how it was. Now Google, Facebook and others can be held to anti-trust laws and they are SCARED. Companies spent 100's of millions to scare people, and it seems to have worked. Thank GOD the FCC made this ruling.

More government is never the answer. Remember that.

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Biff_ARMStrong

@Goatman You hit the nail on the head. We're already seeing Google, Facebook, Twitter censoring free speech, deleting videos and twitter accounts. Regardless of your political perspective, you can't put something as sacred as the internet into the hands of these tyrants. Let the free market take it's course.

Biff_ARMStrong

link3710

That's a rather black and white view of the situation. Net Neutrality has been in place since the internet's inception, yes, but that doesn't mean it always will be without regulation. Nor is this the first regulation that upheld Net Neutrality, the original one was repealed a few years back, before Obama's administration placed this new one. Remember Comcast illegally throttling Netflix a few years back? While there are positives as you mentioned, there are plenty of countries where you as a customer have to pay extra to the ISP to access certain websites, it's not impossible that won't happen here. In fact, it has in the past with several cell phone providers, prior to being ruled illegal.

In any case, we'll see how this goes down, there's no arguing there's plenty of fear tactics in place on both sides.

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Deku-Scrub

I'm so confused with this whole Net Neutrality situation tbh.

On one side, you have people saying that Net Neutrality protects the internet from becoming a thing where you have to pay additional money to use stuff like Google, Netflix etc on top of already existing subscriptions you're already paying.

And then on the other side, you have people saying that getting rid of Net Neutrality means that the internet will be truly free like how it was in the USA prior to 2015.

Regardless of your stance on the matter, this debate is not over, since Congress has the ability to vote against the FCC's ruling from my understanding. Too many people are freaking out since the FCC voted against Net Neutrality, suddenly the internet is going to fall apart.

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Joeynator3000

NintenNinja16 wrote:

I'm so confused with this whole Net Neutrality situation tbh.

On one side, you have people saying that Net Neutrality protects the internet from becoming a thing where you have to pay additional money to use stuff like Google, Netflix etc on top of already existing subscriptions you're already paying.

And then on the other side, you have people saying that getting rid of Net Neutrality means that the internet will be truly free like how it was in the USA prior to 2015.

Regardless of your stance on the matter, this debate is not over, since Congress has the ability to vote against the FCC's ruling from my understanding. Too many people are freaking out since the FCC voted against Net Neutrality, suddenly the internet is going to fall apart.

Pretty much the same for me...I don't know anything anymore...aside from that we're not gonna win, they don't care what we want, so...yeah. I'm just here in the corner, playing video games and cuddling my cat. waiting for this whole thing to be done and over with.

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solitonmedic

Goatman wrote:

@Biff_ARMStrong EXACTLY.

Op and everyone crying are fools. The internet was free and open since it's inception, all of a sudden Obama, Google and Facebook decide they want to control things more so they make a new law.

I didn't exactly say I was supportive of net neutrality. The internet was more so the same before Obama shoved his foot onto the door.

solitonmedic

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neufel

Are you guys really thinking free speech and net neutrality is the same debate?
Whew.
I really don't see why any "censorship" would change without net neutrality. Those companies are still accountable for what they publish, and in most countries beyond the US there are laws against slander, call to violence, and nazi imagery.
They have no reason to stop delete those and it's pretty cool.

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Octane

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@Octane

I always knew something was fishy, good read. I find that if an issue seems to have only one side, then you have reason to be contrarian. While unlimited data sounds great to us, it indeed isnt fair to ISPs, and the loudest protesters online seem to be the highest data consumers.

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@Arminillo Yeah, @NEStalgia has certainly made some good points. The media companies have done well I admit, because all people care about is the idea that they may or may not pay more for their internet usage, and even stranger the idea that network providers will start charging or blocking specific sites, which I doubt will happen. Either way, the most important thing to take away from this is is that there's always another side to the story. And even though the idea of paying for the amount you use doesn't sound great (because let's be honest, that would mean most of us need to pay more), it is probably the most 'fair', and it works for electricity, gas and water too. And I don't know about you, but that's how my mobile plan works anyway.

Oh well, if it's any consolation, not all of us will be affected

Octane

The64Master

However, you have to look at the financial standpoint of this.

Repealing net neutrality allows ISPs to block certain content. However, it just gives them that freedom to do that, and it doesn't force them into doing it.

If an ISP (Comcast, for example) were to slow down internet speed for people who use them, then they would lose customers. Of course, Comcast wouldn't want to lose customers, so they wouldn't abuse their right of no net neutrality.

As for having to "pay for internet packages", it is a complete myth and I would be bewildered to see an ISP actually do that.

Also, you have to remember that Net neutrality was issued in 2015, so any years prior to that existed without net neutrality. The internet was fine then, and it still will be.

We have nothing to worry about, as of right now.

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solitonmedic

@Octane

...All I can say, this whole Net Neutrality business is just nothing but a eye-opener for me.

@The64Master

Exactly, that's why I did a double-take on the whole situation. The internet was fine before 2015, whether or not its detrimental now I've yet to see.

The moment when people started talking about their sources coming from Reddit is why my brow was raised on the whole thing.

solitonmedic

Pungu

This is has been a common trend this year. People taking something, and then blowing it out of proportion. So many people claiming that the end of net neutrality is the end of the internet. And these scare campaigns are backed up by high profile Youtubers and Business people. Youtubers with millions of fans making videos supporting net neutrality, and how Ajit Pai is the devil. And it's all being eaten up without any discussion or research.

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Tyranexx

solitonmedic wrote:

Exactly, that's why I did a double-take on the whole situation. The internet was fine before 2015, whether or not its detrimental now I've yet to see.

This is precisely how I'm looking at it.

NotAceAttorney wrote:

This is has been a common trend this year. People taking something, and then blowing it out of proportion. So many people claiming that the end of net neutrality is the end of the internet. And these scare campaigns are backed up by high profile Youtubers and Business people. Youtubers with millions of fans making videos supporting net neutrality, and how Ajit Pai is the devil. And it's all being eaten up without any discussion or research.

Tip: Don't do what I just did and peek at the comments on IGN's article about this. You'll want some brain cells back. People are blaming everyone from Pai and Trump to the other political party(ies), etc. For all I know, someone blamed a commenter's grandmother. It's a gory, bash-Y word mess.

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Moviefan2k4

I know absolutely zero about this issue...and quite frankly, I'm surprised it came up to begin with. As horrible as a lot of things are on the Internet, the moment you give the Feds permission to police it, they'll crack down on anything which doesn't further their cause. I'm all for things like terrorism and porn being removed, but at what point have we exchanged freedom for security?

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Deku-Scrub

@Octane Good read for sure, thanks for posting it here as it has made quite a bit make more sense.

Honestly one of the most frustrating things to me about all this stuff is that so many people are completly clueless to the actual situation here, and what doesn’t help as NotAceAttorney already mentioned is that Youtubers and celebrities with thousands or millions of fans are just as clueless for the most part from what I can tell, and they spread the already twisted information, leading even more people to not have all the facts on the matter.

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