Topic: Movie thread.

Yeah the whole rat with wings crap, all he did was guess four times and then that was that. Nothing about him was a great detective. He was also a klutz, had no social skills and got his ass kicked during fights. Both as Bruce and as Batman he just kinda sucked.

@Pizzamorg Bats didn't even guess it right, Catwoman went off and found evidence in a Person Of Interest's phone to find a message showing who it is and Bats just goes "Oh yea! Tthat makes sense, I should have gotten that one" like it's a newspaper crossword.

Catwoman's detective work 1, Bat's 0 lol

Same thing happened later when the cold and calculating Riddler has transformed to a hysterical mess and points out Bat's hasn't figured it out.

Still, it's a decent flick but it feels like they used the first draft rather than having kept working on it to get rid of my complaints.

@jump I can't really argue this LOL, I still thought it was a nice change of paste tho.

@Pizzamorg Too be fair, he was a younger batman, he was only year into the work, tho I understand where your coming from, your opinion.

It is wild right, without Selina's help he would have never figured out that Riddle (and still ended up somewhat failing anyway, as the Riddler's plan still went off. Maybe his intended targets didn't die, but I have to assume thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, did) and then Batman would have possibly died himself if Selina hadn't saved him towards the end.

Like I thought Riddler's stuff kinda made a bit more sense, like his puzzles weren't exactly all that cerebral, but he was just a psychopath, he didn't need to necessarily be a genius, just believe himself one. And I get they sorta hint at the mental illness thing with Bruce too when you learn about his Mother, but I feel like as he isn't the villain, you can't as easily explain things away with just "he is nuts".

@Pizzamorg To be honest I just thought the movie people had a David Fincher marathon where they watched Seven, Mindhunter, Zodiac etc the night before they made the movie so they shoe horned The Riddler into that type of baddie.

I thought the scene with batman and the riddler was just amazing, I really liked him in this movie, he was just crazy, and I do love myself a good crazy character.

I am down for Batman dealing with serial killers, but not in a movie with like zero blood or onscreen violence. Just seems pointless.

But it was literally just the Joker interrogation scene.

@Pizzamorg Yeah, But we have had so many batman movies at this point, It didn't really matter to me at that point.

But stuff like that is why I think its a very subjective film.

@Pizzamorg Eh, I'm fine with it being bloodless as The Dark Knight was the pretty much the same despite The Joker shoving pencils into people's heads. I'm more annoyed with the film's own narrative not tracking. Like imagine if you watch a Poirot film when he doesn't figure out who the murderer but then acts like he did. lol

It's been bugging me to try and understand why so many anime fans seem to hate Turning Red as to me there's alot of cross over with them. There's a Kaiju monster, mystical eastern stuff, the art has so many winks and nods to anime like the poof clouds when transforming or the exaggeration of food, it’s got a cutesy mascot and it's an adolescent story like most anime are but then I realized it's because it's an tween girl who acts like a tween girl rather than a jiggly underage fanservice device lol ;p

@jump Seriously though, it's a pretty good movie, I'm not saying it's Pixar's best at all but I see it getting tons of hate for literally no reason. People have called it out for making them "uncomfortable"... what.

@FroZtedFlakerZz Yeah, it's a really solid flick and there's nothing in it I can really find much fault with so when I see hyperbole of it’s the worst Pixar film ever from even regulars on this forum it leaves my head scratching as it can’t be as simple as it’s too girly for them. I’d even argue it has the best three act structure from a Pixar movie, they too often lean of the movie being a journey so it's always set off, travel and then reach their destination whilst this has stood out by taking a different approach.

I strangely found it more relatable than I thought I would despite being a manly man and it's a tween girl. The awkward teen years stuff, the fighting/reconciliations with your parents etc which are all universal for most people but it also has a bunch of teenagers wanting to go to a gig which was very much me and my friends at that age although the bands I wanted to see was stuff like Rancid or Prodigy so that's very different but far more relatable than these weird kids in the movies who want to play sports, that’s a pure work of fiction!

As an anime fan I definitely thought Turning Red was cute, especially as a representation of early 00's teen culture (even though as a guy it didn't completely align with my experience of course).

@jump The structure was very nice, that and Encanto, both newer ones, weren't so much your stereotypical disney journey, as a 3 act bit in one condensed area and they worked just fine. I didn't relate heavily with the more girly elements in the movie of course, but it did heavily call to mind childhood and parents being strict, the graphics were really cool too (especially the scene of her dad cooking).

@Rambler In Seven Morgan Freeman quits at the end though. It's not like The Batman where in the last scene Batman is literally standing around a now ruined Gotham talking to himself about how he's a hero. It's like the Obama meme where he's giving himself a medal only you need to change the meme to show America is now flooded in the background too. Batman should have followed Morgan Freeman and quit! ;p

I don't know about Seven, yeah it's pretentious and not as shocking as it wants to be but at the same time it was so well made it keeps it being rewatchable for me and the ending is a classic. I completely agree about it being inert though yet it doesn’t feel like it’s meant to a well paced film, the plot moving in random fits feels right to me.

I've seen The Batman, its not bad just a little too dark for me ( and I like The Dark Crystal ) also is the movie rated R or PG-13? Everywhere I look I get different answers.

@Kermit1 It's PG-13 but has some dark elements (In The States at least)

@jump Anime fans hate 5he movie? I thought they would eat it up lol, as an anime fan, the art style was done just right.

@FroZtedFlakerZz Ok, in some parts of Canada and Britain has it rated R. Kinda odd but it does make sense.

James Bond knockoff? The best one IMO is the Austin Powers trilogy. Absolutely genius writing and acting (especially from Mike Myers, who plays four completely different characters), plus there's so many Bond references. I would link something but there's so much innuendo that I'd probably get banned if I did.