Topic: Is Hal Labratory first or second party?

I seriously desperate to know. Are Hal first or second party to Nintendo? I have been checking several websites, but some say second and some say first part. Does anyone know?

First. Second parties are developers like Good Feel who make games under Nintendo's name but are not owned by the company.

2nd party, as far as I know.

Hal is owned by Nintendo.

IGN says it's a Second Party developer. We all trust IGN, right?

Alright, first party then. It's confirmed.

Wait what?! I just checked, they DON'T own Hal...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_development_teams

Yes they do. Scroll down to development teams and read.

Software Development Studio located in Tokyo, Japan. This studio is 100% owned by Nintendo

lol

I don't see that on the wiki page liar.

Look for Nintendo 1st Party Developers (Worldwide) and it'll be the last one listed.

Seriously people? Don't edit Wikipedia so you can be right. You poor, poor people.

GameFreak is second party for example. I believe Hal is also second party, since (and don't quote me on this) they only make one franchise for Nintendo (Kirby right?).

The part of their website talking about the company makes no mention of Nintendo, unlike other Nintendo Japanese subsidaries, like Brown Brownie. I think they may actually be independant. Their Wikipedia page also lists them under Second Party, as privately owned.

Smash Bros.

Hal Laboratories is not listed under Nintendo's affiliates on... I don't think they'd forget to mention they owned the creators of Kirby and Smash Bros. if they did, so I think it's safe to say they don't.

Hal is second party, I believe.

The best resource, as Mickey mentioned, is the Website. If it doesn't explicitly mention "a wholly owned subsidiary of Nintendo," the it is very likely it isn't.

That explains why Adventure of Lolo on VC is listed under Hal and not Nintendo, while the Kirby games are.

I also believe the Mother series too.
EDIT: Actually, can't remember...but I know Hal was involved...remember seeing them in the credits for EarthBound.

I would assume second party as they aren't directly involved with Nintendo when they make games or are considered a subsidiary. Of course, I might also be completely wrong, so take your chances.

I wouldn't trust that. Intelligent Systems and Retro Studios aren't even mentioned on that list.

Those are also second parties.