Topic: General E3 2015 Thread - 2 Days Away! (Smash, NWC, Bethesda Today!)

To be fair, good full games have been an average of 60 dollars for quite some time, so it's really not something new and exclusive to Nintendo. Actually I believe in the past, games were far more expensive.

What? My point is that it isn't a new full game. It's only part of one. And how expensive games were over a decade ago isn't really relevant.

It is a full game....

Sorry, that second part was more of a fun fact, I just forgot to label it as such. That's what I get for multitasking.
Anyway my first point still stands, and I'm pretty sure Super Mario Maker is a full game.

Millions of people will be making multiple levels for a few years. You'll have an unlimited number of levels to play. You'll get your moneys worth and more. New Super Mario Bros U has 82 levels. I'm certain more than 82 will be made by users.

I think the second they started pushing the game so hard, it was abundantly clear it was a full $60 game. Considering all the crazy things you can do in the game, I kind of understand.

Littlebigplanet already did the level editor thing. It was part of a full game. The Elder Scrolls has a full construction kit. Mario Maker is nothing new. Many games have done something like this before, but none of them have the gall to take out the game, just have the level maker in it, and then charge $60 for it. Nintendo has just been going down a road of greed, and it's going to catch up with them eventually as the situation gets worse and worse.

It's not like they'll just give you an empty editor.

The game will obviously come with a "main campaign" made with the tools they provide. Much like Wario Ware DIY and Little Big Planet.

I doubt they'll give a full campaign. Not like a normal Mario game. I think they're gonna put a few samples that won't take more than 2-3 hours to go through. Possibly less.

...Um, yeah I'm sure we'll get 8 worlds to try out, including the 4 levels from the NWC.

I would think they would've already announced if they were going to do that. If you're gonna announce $60 price, it's best to justify it then, rather than later.

Name a single game made by Nintendo (in which the experience revolves around user-generated content) that didn't include a generous amount of premade content.

I really don't see the problem with them releasing a game that allows you to create your own levels however you want, has some pre-made levels to show off features of the level creator, and will offer virtually unlimited content thanks to ability to share levels online. Seems like plenty of content to justify the price if you ask me. Just remember, The Order 1886 released at $60 as well

Even look at the original price of RPG Maker XP or VX, they're not cheap.

Those have a completely different purpose and market though.

He's saying he doesn't think it's a full game. Frankly, I don't either. A level creator doesn't exactly scream "big budget game".

I don't know. Have they released any games like at $60 before? I could be wrong about this, but I can't see a LBP quality campaign coming out of this. Even if it's more than I expect, I don't see it justifying the price. We'll see who ends up being right I guess.

...No, they're the same, Mario Maker you're making a 2D Mario game, RPG Maker you're making an RPG, simple as that. Both tools give you tons of stuff to work with.

I did say before that I wouldn't pay $60 for it. And maybe I still won't, but I am extremely impressed by how robust it is. They confirmed the NWC levels will be in there at launch, so maybe they'll have their own Developer-made worlds/levels? That's usually the case with Nintendo D.I.Y. games like Mario v. DK

If New Super Mario Bros U could retail at the same price.... I don't see why this one can't.

Anyway.... It's not like I even plan to get it