The Legend of Zelda BotW 2 will not be getting a trailer or a more precise release window. They might mention it saying how info will come at a later date, but this E3 will not be the place for the big Zelda news blowout. In the same vein any new ports of the older 3d Zelda games will not be announced. A zelda centred event will be held in August to announce any new ports or further details about Breath of the Wild 2. BotW 2 will release spring 2022. Twilght Princess HD and Wind Waker HD will be releasing in either September or January.
Splatoon 3 will also not be present but will be much more detailed in a fall direct
Stuff like Mario Golf, Skyward Sword, Great Ace Attorney, and other games releasing close to E3 will be shown off in a highlight reel. Mario Golf will be given a free trial before the games release and an announcement for an update shortly after release adding new characters (similarly to what they did with Tennis Aces).
Age of Calamity DLC will be fully detailed and shown off in a trailer.
Ubisoft will be working on a new Rayman project and a new era for just dance that resembles a subscription service and they will drop the yearly releases and move onto smaller monthly updates.
Pokemon (if they don't have their own thing) will have a small trailer for Arceus showing off some random stuff.
New Super Monkey Ball game shown off by SEGA
Either WarioWare or Rhythm Heaven will get a new installment utilizing the Switch's hardware that will release in the fall.
A brand new 2D Puzzle Platformer DK game akin to the original Mario vs Donkey Kong will be revealed releasing this October.
Bayonetta 3 will get a new trailer.... Probably
NO STINKIN METROID. That'll be heard about more next year.
SSBU character. only one. No clue who it is, but it certainly won't be Master Chief.
I have a strange feeling the Ice Climbers will be present in some way during E3
The final announcement will be that Medievel game by monolith soft being shown off with a 2022 release date and a name drop that'll relate to Xenoblade somehow.
We'll see if I'm accurate. Could be a new Mario kart or a mario party or something, but I think this year will be pretty chill from Nintendo going ahead.
@Grumblevolcano That doesn't make sense. They can have Treehouse as much as they want in their own HQ, that probably isn't the reason it's only one day. I think this implies we're not getting much, which would be sad.
@VoidofLight So then why choose the last day if they have a lot to show? If we're getting as much as is rumored, 1 day is not going to be enough to show them all off.
@Bolt_Strike Perhaps they didn't have much of a choice? Or maybe they only really wanted to do a direct, instead of a whole thing for e3.
I don't think we aren't getting anything, since the direct is 40 minutes long. I doubt we'll be getting stuff like "Mario Kart 9" or "Donkey Kong 3D", but we'll get something.
The treehouse may just be 3 hours long because they don't have many games they want to demo. Or if they do have games they want to demo, maybe they condensed the segments of gameplay to 30 minutes instead of hours dedicated to one game. Not to mention how Covid's still a thing, and they could've changed the style on how the Tree House event works to compensate for it.
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@VoidofLight Eh, Treehouse is effective marketing, I think they'd want to show as many games in Treehouse that are ready to show. I think the schedule needs a few "somethings", like at least 2 or 3 A or B tier IPs release in the next fiscal year (some of the rumored games such as 2D Metroid, DK, 3D Kirby, Mario Party, or Mario Kart would fit nicely), and at least 1 of the announced games we know nothing about (BotW2, Bayonetta 3, Metroid Prime 4), and I don't think that's asking for a whole lot. But with a 30 minute Treehouse? I'm not sure we even get that much. We're past the point where COVID is an excuse for the radio silence from Nintendo, they should be back to normal more or less.
@Bolt_Strike The Treehouse is 3 hours long. I meant 30 minutes per game instead of an hour like how they normally do. Also, we're not to the point where Covid isn't an excuse, given that Japan just went under lockdown again not too long ago. I feel like we probably won't be seeing many of the rumored games either, since they're just that, rumors. A lot of the rumored games either have no real backing, or if they do it's moreso guess work. People think a New Mario Kart is coming because 8 got an update. People think a new Mario Party is coming because the current one got an update.
The direct itself is 40 minutes long. 5 minutes short of a normal e3 direct presentation.
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@VoidofLight Nintendo should be used to lockdown by now, so they shouldn't be delayed more than a year. The updates aren't the reason why people think those games are coming. They think those games are coming because the developers behind them haven't released anything since 2017/2018. The Mario Kart/ARMS team hasn't released anything since 2017. The Mario Party team hasn't released anything since 2018. HAL Laboratory released some smaller Kirby titles, but the last big one was Star Allies in 2018. MercurySteam hasn't released anything since 2017. The 3D Mario team released 3D World + Bowser's Fury this year, but that was likely a side project and should have a full game ready in the next year or two. The only rumor that isn't based on what a developer has previously released and when is DK. And there's been multiple sources pointing towards things like 2D Metroid and DK, and HAL themselves have hinted towards the next Kirby game. So several of these games are likely real.
For Treehouse, they may do other treehouses throughout the year like last year, rather than everything directly after E3, which could explain why it's been shortened.
Nintendo's tweet implies two things to me, both with the vibe of trying to temper expectations:
1. "...NintendoSwitch software, mostly releasing in 2021"... except for BOTW 2? I don't recall ever before seeing them make a point of telling us in advance when software they are preparing to show off is going to release, and the use of "mostly" feels like a plea for caution regarding the release date of the game that the general fanbase anticipates most (the aforementioned sequel). I do believe we'll see something regarding the game at E3, but I'm fearing we might be looking at a March 2022 or later release. I'd love to be wrong here, though, believe me! @VoidofLight corrected me on this point below.
2. "...40 minutes of info focused exclusively on NintendoSwitch software..." The point of explicitly stating that only software will be discussed seems to be another cautionary push, this one suggesting that we may not actually be seeing the new Switch revision as soon as the rumors have been leading some of us to believe. I know that the "Pro"-hopeful interpret this to mean that it's because the hardware will be revealed beforehand, but do we really think they would reveal the next major wave in the Switch line but then NOT discuss it at all at E3? Again, I'd have no qualms being wrong on this, but I dunno, my friends...
These are the feelings I'm getting from their wording, but perhaps I'm just reading too deeply.
I should point out that they only really showed off a few games during Treehouse in past years and it was mostly just repeat segments of the same games. That's perfect in 2014 when they needed to show off Splatoon for the first time, not so much in 2021 to show off... Mario Golf?
Most of the upcoming lineup doesn't need multiple segments because they're remasters/remakes (Skyward Sword, Pokemon), have had plenty of gameplay shown off already (Mario Golf), or will get too much into spoiler territory if they do (MH Stories 2, NMH3, SMT V). The rumored games for the rest of the year are... a 2D Metroid, a Donkey Kong, and more Zelda ports. Of those, the only game where I could see more than 1 segment being justified is Donkey Kong, and that's only if it's 3D and not 2D.
Everything else is 2022 or later and they won't want to go into a deep dive yet. The exception here is Pokemon Legends Arceus, but they might not show much of that one because of Game Freak and TPCi.
Point is, I don't think Treehouse being cut down is indicative of how much they have to show. They just decided to trim the fat due to the lack of a show floor this year.
@imagazelle For the first point, you do know they always tell us "Mostly x year" right? They did it last direct, and we got Splatoon 3. They did it at the e3 direct in 2019, and we got BotW 2. We'll get news on games not set to come out this year, and even then.. we simply don't know if BotW 2 will come out this year or not. There's still potential that we could see it released in December.
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@IceClimbers That's a pretty good point I haven't considered. Thinking back upon it, a lot of the treehouse stuff was fluff, like when they showed BotW off at e3, and most of it sort of felt like they were repeating the same information, especially with the Great Plateau being the most they could actually show.
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@imagazelle No, I inferred the same from that tweet as well. I don't think it's a passive-aggressive hint from Nintendo but just them wording things cautiously. Remember when they said "there will be no more info on Smash fighters" before Sephiroth's reveal at The Game Awards?
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I wouldn't read into the tweet too much. They have a history of not exactly following the direct title. The number of time they've said a specific date range and then "one more thing" and it's a next year release. Or said it's games and then gone into details on accessories etc.
The direct name is a suggestion of what the direct will have, not a hard rule.
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@VoidofLight I knew they gave release dates/ranges during Directs, but I didn't recall them pointing it out in pre-Direct announcements. However, a quick look back at old announcements proves you right! Maybe I've become so accustomed to disappointment with gaming news in recent times that my brain automatically reads negativity wherever it can be even remotely construed
@TheJGG I see it more as "Don't expect this to happen" by Nintendo, just to set expectations low for if they don't end up delivering. For example, if they say "Mostly 2021 games", they're setting expectations so that people don't get disappointed if there are little 2022 games in the presentation.
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I marked something on my calendar for the first time in months today. The direct!
1: BOTW2.
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Breath of the Wild sequel. We've been asked to expect a bigger reveal this year, and I hope we get it. The game's been in development for almost three years now (when Creating a Champion was published in 2018 it contained an interview with Aonuma saying the next game in the series had started development) and I suspect it'll be bigger than just reusing the world map if it's taking this long. In terms of release date I'd guess it would come out in March 2022, five years after Breath of the Wild.
Final Fantasy XVI will be revealed or at least teased. They stated that it was more likely that it would be showcased this year, and hopefully the game can come along smoothly for a 2022 release, maybe in the middle of the year. The game looks fantastic, so rushing it will be a crime.
Final Fantasy VII Remake: Part 2. Or as I like to call it, FF7: Rebirth. The PS5 version of the original, with the Yuffie story content, releases on June 10, ie. BEFORE E3 2021 itself takes place. So releasing another trailer for an enhanced port of a 1-year old game would feel very cheap. Plus I doubt the entire FF7R team is developing this, since it was built in Unreal Engine 4 it may have been outsourced. Square has two teams working now; Naoki Yoshida's team on FF16, and Tetsuya Nomura/Yoshinori Kitase on FF7R.
Both Smash fighters are revealed, ending the three year hype train that made some people go mad with rage and others withdraw from society in case their favourite Smash fighter didn't get announced. I've loved the amount of diversity that's gone into the Fighter's Pass but seeing people complain about Byleth, Pyra&Mythra, and even f*%£&g Sephiroth (?!) is horrible and at times unacceptable. So while I'm excited to see what Chef Sakurai's been brewing I'd like everyone to move on, and eventually grow to appreciate the fighters we have instead of b*tching.
Having said that I'd still need to predict who the fighters are. But I cant', it's too up in the air. I would just go with Crash but Nintendo and Sony in the public eye at least, don't have a relationship like Nintendo and Microsoft. It would be interesting though if the entire Famicom Detective Club project was a precursor for Sakurai realising his dream of getting Ayumi into Smash...
No Metroid Prime 4. It's still in development and nowhere near ready for public scrutiny.
Zelda's 35th Anniversary. Some form of legacy content, so in the most basic form, Twilight Princess and The Wind Waker have their Wii U ports bundled in a sixty dollar pack. If I were more optimistic I'd throw Ocarina of Time in but that game's aged horrendously in twenty years so I'm not entirely sure. Nintendo always regarded the Zelda series quietly, in terms of merch, bundles and so on, so I'm not sure if this'll even happen.
Shin Megami Tensei V. Something, since Atlus haven't made any changes to the 2021 release window, which is also simultaneous throughout all territories...
I'd love Metroid Prime: Trilogy, to tide people over before Metroid: Prime 4, but the Retro Studios developer brought up some very good points. Because it comes from a man who worked directly on the games I feel his word is very valuable, and because he isn't saying that it's totes gonna happen and all, he's getting all this hate.
Age of Calamity's DLC pack starts... I think May 28? So there'll be a period where there's literally nothing waiting for early adopters, and hopefully that period lasts for only two weeks.
I think Monolith have repurposed this medieval RPG, or changed it to a Xenoblade game. They've been very clear that they want to strengthen the Xenoblade IP, so releasing a non-related game is a poor move in that sense. I doubt Xenoblade X would have sold well if it wasn't released under the Xenoblade IP. And finally...
Xenoblade X'll get ported! Finally!
My predictions for reference. There's no new... "evidence" or hints that would make me want to add on or change anything honestly. But we'll see.
For the folks looking at past E3 for patterns I wouldn't say that's the best idea since the E3 format has changed this year, coivd and Nintendo have very little for the second half of 2021 announced so I'd reckon all bets are off for how they normally do things.
As much as I normally dislike them this would be a good year to do teaser/non-gameplay trailers of games since there's no showroom where people would expect to be able to try Ninty's games.
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