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Grumblevolcano

Chaoz wrote:

X and Y really felt like Red and Blue to me. It was fun and enjoyable, but there was some missing potential. The story could have been expanded instead of being "this guy is evil, this guy good" trope, some places were just empty even in places that seem strange, the post game was laughable, and the pokemon was underwhelming. I really like to see a Z or X2 and Y2. Lots of things could be added. Here hoping for a E3 confirmation!

I'd hope the Pokémon game announcement is a fair amount before E3, I mean letting it dominate all the hype instead of games such as Xenoblade Chronicles X, Zelda U and Star Fox would be extremely disappointing.

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MixMasterMudkip

I don't really like B2/W2 it's actually my least favorite with the exception of D/P, but it really should be X2/Y2 instead of Z. I really don't think they can go back to doing a third version ever again. It's kind of like going backwards I feel, but I'd be fine either way. If X2/Y2 happen and it's worse then X/Y like how I felt about B2/W2 after B/W then I would have preferred Z though.

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TOUGHDUDE94

I would like for them to make a Pokémon game using amiibo and the 3ds/2ds amiibo adapter also with the use of Pokémon amiibo
but they need to do this in a different region one with the main land a ton of islands to explore this one needs to be on exploring the region
1.the region needs to be big I mean the biggest one ever and still work on the old 3ds
2.should have a lot of content I mean tons
3.the area will have 3 regions at least
3a.southern region will have tons of islands and mostly water ships take you from big island to big island the small islands can be reached with walking or by flying a topical forest covers these islands
3b. a main land area where it is a peninsula where the biggest city is at and where the main story take place the forest range from swampy bald cypress and lovely sweet bay magnolias to oak and palm forest with nice beaches and
3c.a region north of region 3b. where you have the lower mountains with a forest of oak,maple,and pine and the upper snow caped mountains where the forest are also colder pine and birch trees

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Grumblevolcano

@andrew20 First the amiibo adapter would need to be confirmed for outside Japan with an actual release date!

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TOUGHDUDE94

Also a color 3d remake of game boy versions of red,blue,and green with yellow as vc at the release of this game
also this game will contain a sub region of region 3d. green zone where sonic is the legendary Pokémon and his friends are there with super monkey ball and samba de amigo characters as Pokémon

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TOUGHDUDE94

Grumblevolcano wrote:

@andrew20 First the amiibo adapter would need to be confirmed for outside Japan with an actual release date!

that will be conferred with the Pokémon game also for a separated release date
but in 2014 on at e3 it was announced for all regions but we still not know when it will come out it could be later this year probably with the next direct

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Grumblevolcano

andrew20 wrote:

Grumblevolcano wrote:

@andrew20 First the amiibo adapter would need to be confirmed for outside Japan with an actual release date!

that will be conferred with the Pokémon game also for a separated release date
but in 2014 on at e3 it was announced for all regions but we still not know when it will come out it could be later this year probably with the next direct

Well Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem was confirmed to exist and look how things are currently. I don't trust until at least a release window is revealed. Maybe given the sales of New 3DS and New 3DS XL Nintendo decides to only release the amiibo adapter in Japan, we don't know until more details arrive.

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Bolt_Strike

IDK why people think Z is going to happen. All of the evidence points against it. Zygarde has two unreleased signature moves, which hints at two versions, each one having a new form of Zygarde. Plus Masuda has commented that he wants to surprise the player, so he doesn't just want to make a Z version, and he also implies that he doesn't want to make XY2 either.

It's difficult to predict what's next at this point, but considering the evidence, it's likely that Kalos is going to get another version, but probably different from what we've gotten before. Maybe it's a Gen 6.5 with new Pokemon added, maybe there's a new region accessible, something unexpected like that.

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Grumblevolcano

Bolt_Strike wrote:

IDK why people think Z is going to happen. All of the evidence points against it. Zygarde has two unreleased signature moves, which hints at two versions, each one having a new form of Zygarde. Plus Masuda has commented that he wants to surprise the player, so he doesn't just want to make a Z version, and he also implies that he doesn't want to make XY2 either.

It's difficult to predict what's next at this point, but considering the evidence, it's likely that Kalos is going to get another version, but probably different from what we've gotten before. Maybe it's a Gen 6.5 with new Pokemon added, maybe there's a new region accessible, something unexpected like that.

Surely all the Zygarde situation could end up being is some kind of wifi distribution for ORAS.

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MixMasterMudkip

Tops wrote:

MixMasterMudkip wrote:

I don't really like B2/W2 it's actually my least favorite with the exception of D/P, but it really should be X2/Y2 instead of Z. I really don't think they can go back to doing a third version ever again. It's kind of like going backwards I feel, but I'd be fine either way. If X2/Y2 happen and it's worse then X/Y like how I felt about B2/W2 after B/W then I would have preferred Z though.

A third iteration is backwards but you'd prefer it if you don't enjoy the sequels? What if the third version is bad? With thinking like that you'll never be satisfied.

Well the third versions have always been better then the originals in my opinion, and I doubt that would ever change. I really couldn't be disappointed by a better version of a game I already like. I think it's best to stick with doing sequels, but If I like the originals more then the sequels then yeah I would have liked having the third version more. It's kinda hard for me to explain my feelings better then that. Honestly, no matter what I really don't think I could not be satisfied by a main series Pokemon game though.

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IceClimbers

@Grumblevolcano ORAS would need a patch if they introduce new forms for Zygarde.

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Grumblevolcano

IceClimbers wrote:

@Grumblevolcano ORAS would need a patch if they introduce new forms for Zygarde.

Won't there need to be a patch anyway for Hoopa?

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IceClimbers

Grumblevolcano wrote:

IceClimbers wrote:

@Grumblevolcano ORAS would need a patch if they introduce new forms for Zygarde.

Won't there need to be a patch anyway for Hoopa?

Both forms of Hoopa are already in the game's code if I'm not mistaken.

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Grumblevolcano wrote:

IceClimbers wrote:

@Grumblevolcano ORAS would need a patch if they introduce new forms for Zygarde.

Won't there need to be a patch anyway for Hoopa?

No, it's already in the code. It would probably result in Z only compatible with ORAS to the same degree as ORAS is to x and y.

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Bolt_Strike

Grumblevolcano wrote:

Bolt_Strike wrote:

IDK why people think Z is going to happen. All of the evidence points against it. Zygarde has two unreleased signature moves, which hints at two versions, each one having a new form of Zygarde. Plus Masuda has commented that he wants to surprise the player, so he doesn't just want to make a Z version, and he also implies that he doesn't want to make XY2 either.

It's difficult to predict what's next at this point, but considering the evidence, it's likely that Kalos is going to get another version, but probably different from what we've gotten before. Maybe it's a Gen 6.5 with new Pokemon added, maybe there's a new region accessible, something unexpected like that.

Surely all the Zygarde situation could end up being is some kind of wifi distribution for ORAS.

Not happening. Zygarde is a mascot legendary that's tied to Kalos' lore, they're not just going to toss it out in a random event. He's probably getting his own game. If not that then at least XY DLC, but even that wouldn't be enough promotion for a mascot legendary so I doubt it's anything short of a full retail game.

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MasterWario

Metroi wrote:

Tops wrote:

I hope they don't go the route of another pair of sequels. They should also just ditch Kalos. The region was boring to traverse and I don't want them to bother having geographical changes to explain. B/W 2, R/S, and even G/S to an extent (when you revisit Kanto) rely on changing geography. Not bad in and of itself but they should try something else.

I won't lie, since X/Y I've been feeling very jaded and indifferent toward the Pokémon series. I haven't even bothered to pick up ORAS, and I could pretty much take it or leave it at the moment. As things stand I'd actually be more interested in a spin-off.

Sorry for the negativity.

What did you find wrong with Kalos it was one of the most well designed regions in the Pokemon world. The only complaints I would have about Pokemon X and Y is the lack of Post game content and The story but Hoenn was awful with too much surfing and how bad the whole story with team aqua was and the locations of the gym leaders which was all over the place and took ages to get to compared to how organised as the Kalos league which is simpler and easier to traverse compared to Hoenn.

And that's exactly why I like Hoenn, and why I don't like Kalos. I actually felt like I was on an adventure in Hoenn; there were secret little crags and areas that rewarded you a little something when you went there. Not to mention the landscapes had little man-made structures, which also made it feel more adventurous.

Kalos, on the other hand, was boring. Now let me get something clear here: imo, Gamefreak did a fantastic job with X & Y. The transition to 3D was fantastic, I like almost all the new Pokemon, they spiced up the graphics, and overall I enjoyed the game. But, map design wise, it was really boring. If I get lost in a cave somewhere in Pokemon, that's a good thing imo (unless its Victory Road ugh). I know sometimes I like to rush to finish the game so I can get X pokemon or X tm, but at the end of the day, most of my enjoyment when playing Pokemon comes from playing through the story for the first time. Kalos routes were just too short/uninteresting, and it feels like 80% of the time you're inside a building of some sort. I will say I did like the Pumpkaboo route, but beyond that it was a huge turn off.

I didn't want ORAS either after playing X & Y, but I got it on a whim and it was the most fun I've had with Pokemon in a long time.

I'm not trying say I'm right or anything similar, but the dark side of all the optimization they did in X & Y was it inadvertently killed some of the most enjoyable aspects of Pokemon for several people.

I can't ever organize my thoughts around Unova. All I know is I actually liked the Pokemon, but the game is incredibly hard to sit through.

On the actual topic at hand...I'd say if Zygarde didn't start with a Z then no, there wouldn't be a third entry. But Zygarde, being the only other new, (naturally) obtainable legendary in the game makes me sure we'll get a sort of Z at some point. At the very least they were thinking about it when they named Zygarde.

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DefHalan

I do think it should be Pokemon Z next but I also want them to redesign some of the landscape. I want more freedom in my exploration. I believe Platnium had some re-designed areas, maybe something similar but more. That is what I hope to see this fall.

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Bolt_Strike

I could see the next Kalos game adding at least some areas to the game. Probably in the southwest and northeast. Maybe if we're lucky we'll also get more areas in the south.

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-Juice-

Bolt_Strike wrote:

I could see the next Kalos game adding at least some areas to the game. Probably in the southwest and northeast. Maybe if we're lucky we'll also get more areas in the south.

Maybe opening each route up more so that there's freedom to explore... and allowing the whole region to not be a linear quest-fest.... that would be nice...

I know, I know, very unrealistic. There's so much land east and west of the center of Kalos though, and if they did add that land in (like OoT's Hyrule field but Pokemon form) ALL of the cities would be connected and therfore it at least wouldn't FEEL linear, and there would be a lot of places to explore. XD

I think that's my biggest gripe with Nintendo(mostly) and Gamefreak(to a lesser extent) games. They don't make the story ALONGSIDE the mechanics, they make one AFTER, which seems really stupid and hinders it a lot. What they need to do is have one team of experience people working on the game mechanics, and ANOTHER team writing up a good and respectable story from the start, with communication between the two groups.

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Grumblevolcano

BlatantlyHeroic wrote:

I think that's my biggest gripe with Nintendo(mostly) and Gamefreak(to a lesser extent) games. They don't make the story ALONGSIDE the mechanics, they make one AFTER, which seems really stupid and hinders it a lot. What they need to do is have one team of experience people working on the game mechanics, and ANOTHER team writing up a good and respectable story from the start, with communication between the two groups.

I agree, take the new Star Fox game we know so little about for example. Miyamoto keeps talking so much about mechanics and how great the game will work with the Gamepad but in the end the story will probably be mediocre if not a copypaste one from 64.

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