I wanna see more games like Nintendogs, a follow up to Ring Fit. Greatly looking forward to Clubhouse Games. Hoping Nintendo focuses development in that vein — traditional fun pick em up and go type games that don't require heavy investment.
I liked that about the Wii days. There was more of a focus on the demographics that just like quick 5 minute burst type games. The pick em up and go type games.
@Keywork It's 'pussified' to expect something you paid $80 for to work right? These Joy-Cons are not cheap at all. They charge a top shelf price for something made with bottom shelf quality components.
My brand new Neon Yellow Joy-Cons from Amazon drifted out of the box. I was expected to pay Nintendo for shipping them.
I suppose you just roll over and take it whenever you get a bad piece of hardware? Because heaven forbid you be seen as being 'pussified.' That's what really matters eh?
This reminds me of the Xbox 360 RROD debacle. Radio silence, followed by statements downplaying the issue until their hand was forced. This is why this lawsuit is happening. Nintendo refuses to acknowledge it, and the same broken analog stick design exists in the newest Joy-Con colors as well - which means Nintendo has done nothing to resolve it.
Good. As someone that bought a pair of neon yellow Joy-Cons just last month and they drifted OUT OF THE BOX. Left one drifting up and right one drifting left - though much less than the left stick - there is seriously a QA problem here.
So don't give me any of that 'drift only happens to people who don't take care of their hardware' stuff.
Also before that I had two gray Joy-Cons drift. My first pair, bought a used Switch that included them. So fine, I chalked that up to the Joy-Cons being old. But no excuse for the yellow ones.
Nintendo expected ME to pay for shipping to repair them even though the fault was entirely theirs. I fixed it myself using electrical contact cleaner.
In contrast, I have a Gamecube controller from 2003 - over a decade and a half old - that I did abuse in those years - I didn't take care of things as much back then as a teenager - and that controller still works just as well as the day I first bought it. Thousands of hours of usage, and I still use it every day as a gamepad for my PC using a USB adapter. It's still going strong.
Meanwhile it seems you're lucky if Joy-Cons still work as intended a year after purchase. Or in my case if they work as intended right out of the box!
Nintendo needs to revise the analog stick design and send out replacements to anyone who claims to have an issue. I even think out of warranty Joy-Cons should be replaced for free if there is evidence that Nintendo knew about the drift issue before the Switch went on sale (they have QA teams that test hardware, and if I were a betting man I'd say the QA team warned them about this months before the Switch was sold).
Logitech sends out replacements quickly. You don't even have to send in your broken device first. I had a mouse break,. contacted them, and two days later a new mouse was on my porch from UPS. I didn't have to pay for any shipping charges, and they didn't even want me to send in my broken mouse.
If Nintendo had issued a statement acknowledging this issue, and either sent out working replacements first and included a prepaid shipping box to send the broken one in — or gave affected customers a prepaid shipping label to return it then this lawsuit would not have happened.
Here's what needs to happen: Nintendo needs to change the design of the analog sticks in the Joy-Cons, and once that happens they need to put up a form on their website where you enter serial number of your malfunctioning Joy-Cons and mailing address and they send you the new revision. For out of warranty Joy-Cons require some sort of proof such as a cell phone video focused on their Switch showing the calibration screen and showing the input indicator being off center without touching the stick.
Make this right, Nintendo. You made excellent quality hardware for years until now.
Re: people saying everyone experiencing drift has been abusive to their hardware: I bought a brand new set of neon yellow Joy-Cons from Amazon. I don't even like yellow but I had hoped because yellow wasn't available at launch that they did a silent revision in the analog stick design.
Immediately had upward drift out of the box. I suppose I travelled back in time to the factory and smashed the stick for 24 hours straight to have caused them to drift out of the box, eh?
And yes, I tried calibration, reset to default calibration, update, all of the software non-solutions.
Nintendo expected me to pay for return shipping. I fixed it myself with electrical contact cleaner.
These are controllers with the cheapest parts that are sold at luxury good prices.
I have filled out the form on the lawyer's website and if they need me to sign on as a full plaintiff in order to get the class action lawsuit in Kentucky, I will be happily signing on.
I know I won't get much money — if any. It's not about that. It's about forcing Nintendo to acknowledge the issue.
I have owned Nintendo hardware since 1990 where my first console was an NES. The Joy-Cons were the first Nintendo controller I experienced issues with.
Nintendo needs to re-engineer the Joy-Con analog sticks, or go back to a design that worked and wasn't faulty such as the analog sticks in the nunchuk, or GameCube controller - those were built like tanks. And then they need to either send those who have defective Joy-Cons a prepaid box to return them in - or be like Logitech and just pre-emptively send out a replacement for anyone submitting an RMA.
Glad to see them still continue development of this great project. It is the funnest Pokemon game I've played since the Gameboy Advance days. I do wish it were open source though.
Looks fantastic. I am glad like AM2R they decided to go the PC original route instead of a ROM hack. As there are things you can't do when locked into the original platform.
I am also very impressed by the online features of it.
This is definitely on my next play list after I beat Zelda ALBW.
Nintendo has already forced them to remove the downloads, but the most important thing is they say (like AM2R) that they will continue to update the game and improve it with bugfixing and so forth. The only difference is users who want to play will need to locate alternate places to download it from. That is not a big deal. They can just post SHA-1 file hashes for it so end users can verify the file they downloaded has the same SHA-1 hash (to ensure it's not someone who snuck malware into the installer).
The newer Pokemon games just aren't as good IMO. So I love that they did this fangame in the graphical style of the GBA remakes. While of course tastefully adding in graphical effects to take advantage of PC graphics rendering.
Major kudos to everyone who worked on this, and also AM2R. And even more kudos for having the bravery to continue maintaining the projects even after a C&D.
Future fan game projects: Just do not host the files yourself, give them to others and have them distribute it through unofficial laissez-faire mediums such as BitTorrent.
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Re: Rumour: Pikmin 3 Deluxe Reportedly In The Works For Nintendo Switch
I wanna see more games like Nintendogs, a follow up to Ring Fit. Greatly looking forward to Clubhouse Games. Hoping Nintendo focuses development in that vein — traditional fun pick em up and go type games that don't require heavy investment.
I liked that about the Wii days. There was more of a focus on the demographics that just like quick 5 minute burst type games. The pick em up and go type games.
Re: Class Action Lawsuit Officially Filed Against Nintendo For Switch Joy-Con "Drifting" Issues
@Keywork It's 'pussified' to expect something you paid $80 for to work right? These Joy-Cons are not cheap at all. They charge a top shelf price for something made with bottom shelf quality components.
My brand new Neon Yellow Joy-Cons from Amazon drifted out of the box. I was expected to pay Nintendo for shipping them.
I suppose you just roll over and take it whenever you get a bad piece of hardware? Because heaven forbid you be seen as being 'pussified.' That's what really matters eh?
This reminds me of the Xbox 360 RROD debacle. Radio silence, followed by statements downplaying the issue until their hand was forced. This is why this lawsuit is happening. Nintendo refuses to acknowledge it, and the same broken analog stick design exists in the newest Joy-Con colors as well - which means Nintendo has done nothing to resolve it.
Re: Class Action Lawsuit Officially Filed Against Nintendo For Switch Joy-Con "Drifting" Issues
Good. As someone that bought a pair of neon yellow Joy-Cons just last month and they drifted OUT OF THE BOX. Left one drifting up and right one drifting left - though much less than the left stick - there is seriously a QA problem here.
So don't give me any of that 'drift only happens to people who don't take care of their hardware' stuff.
Also before that I had two gray Joy-Cons drift. My first pair, bought a used Switch that included them. So fine, I chalked that up to the Joy-Cons being old. But no excuse for the yellow ones.
Nintendo expected ME to pay for shipping to repair them even though the fault was entirely theirs. I fixed it myself using electrical contact cleaner.
In contrast, I have a Gamecube controller from 2003 - over a decade and a half old - that I did abuse in those years - I didn't take care of things as much back then as a teenager - and that controller still works just as well as the day I first bought it. Thousands of hours of usage, and I still use it every day as a gamepad for my PC using a USB adapter. It's still going strong.
Meanwhile it seems you're lucky if Joy-Cons still work as intended a year after purchase. Or in my case if they work as intended right out of the box!
Nintendo needs to revise the analog stick design and send out replacements to anyone who claims to have an issue. I even think out of warranty Joy-Cons should be replaced for free if there is evidence that Nintendo knew about the drift issue before the Switch went on sale (they have QA teams that test hardware, and if I were a betting man I'd say the QA team warned them about this months before the Switch was sold).
Logitech sends out replacements quickly. You don't even have to send in your broken device first. I had a mouse break,. contacted them, and two days later a new mouse was on my porch from UPS. I didn't have to pay for any shipping charges, and they didn't even want me to send in my broken mouse.
If Nintendo had issued a statement acknowledging this issue, and either sent out working replacements first and included a prepaid shipping box to send the broken one in — or gave affected customers a prepaid shipping label to return it then this lawsuit would not have happened.
Here's what needs to happen: Nintendo needs to change the design of the analog sticks in the Joy-Cons, and once that happens they need to put up a form on their website where you enter serial number of your malfunctioning Joy-Cons and mailing address and they send you the new revision. For out of warranty Joy-Cons require some sort of proof such as a cell phone video focused on their Switch showing the calibration screen and showing the input indicator being off center without touching the stick.
Make this right, Nintendo. You made excellent quality hardware for years until now.
Re: US Law Firm Opens "Switch Joy-Con Drift" Class Action Investigation
Re: people saying everyone experiencing drift has been abusive to their hardware: I bought a brand new set of neon yellow Joy-Cons from Amazon. I don't even like yellow but I had hoped because yellow wasn't available at launch that they did a silent revision in the analog stick design.
Immediately had upward drift out of the box. I suppose I travelled back in time to the factory and smashed the stick for 24 hours straight to have caused them to drift out of the box, eh?
And yes, I tried calibration, reset to default calibration, update, all of the software non-solutions.
Nintendo expected me to pay for return shipping. I fixed it myself with electrical contact cleaner.
These are controllers with the cheapest parts that are sold at luxury good prices.
I have filled out the form on the lawyer's website and if they need me to sign on as a full plaintiff in order to get the class action lawsuit in Kentucky, I will be happily signing on.
I know I won't get much money — if any. It's not about that. It's about forcing Nintendo to acknowledge the issue.
I have owned Nintendo hardware since 1990 where my first console was an NES. The Joy-Cons were the first Nintendo controller I experienced issues with.
Nintendo needs to re-engineer the Joy-Con analog sticks, or go back to a design that worked and wasn't faulty such as the analog sticks in the nunchuk, or GameCube controller - those were built like tanks. And then they need to either send those who have defective Joy-Cons a prepaid box to return them in - or be like Logitech and just pre-emptively send out a replacement for anyone submitting an RMA.
Re: Pokémon Uranium "More Alive Than Ever" Despite Removal Of Official Download Links, Claims Developer
Glad to see them still continue development of this great project. It is the funnest Pokemon game I've played since the Gameboy Advance days. I do wish it were open source though.
Re: Pokémon Uranium is the Latest Ambitious Fan-Made Game to Run The Gauntlet
Looks fantastic. I am glad like AM2R they decided to go the PC original route instead of a ROM hack. As there are things you can't do when locked into the original platform.
I am also very impressed by the online features of it.
This is definitely on my next play list after I beat Zelda ALBW.
Nintendo has already forced them to remove the downloads, but the most important thing is they say (like AM2R) that they will continue to update the game and improve it with bugfixing and so forth. The only difference is users who want to play will need to locate alternate places to download it from. That is not a big deal. They can just post SHA-1 file hashes for it so end users can verify the file they downloaded has the same SHA-1 hash (to ensure it's not someone who snuck malware into the installer).
The newer Pokemon games just aren't as good IMO. So I love that they did this fangame in the graphical style of the GBA remakes. While of course tastefully adding in graphical effects to take advantage of PC graphics rendering.
Major kudos to everyone who worked on this, and also AM2R. And even more kudos for having the bravery to continue maintaining the projects even after a C&D.
Future fan game projects: Just do not host the files yourself, give them to others and have them distribute it through unofficial laissez-faire mediums such as BitTorrent.