@ThomasBW84, I feel your pain, though I honestly think the issue boils down to one key thing: Cloud saves should be standard practice at this point.
In concept, I'm alright with using an external drive — having the option to buy your own is nice, especially given their dirt-cheap prices. So I also use an external HD, but because I always play around with system settings when I get new tech, I've known since day one that you can't have a game save on the internal drive while the game itself is on the external, or vice versa. This is also counter-intuitive, extremely short-sighted, and backwards on Nintendo's part.
I'm constantly listening and looking for signs of failure, and will transfer to a new HD at the first signal. However, the simple presence of cloud saves would turn the situation of hard-drive failure into less of a catastrophe and more of an inconvenience. Re-downloading your games is time-consuming, but Ninty's account system does make that fairly easy. Losing your saves forever, though? That's inexcusable in 2016.
@shaneoh, easy there, hoss. No need to get heated.
As I said in my original post and elsewhere, I'm not concerned with her views. I'm not concerned with her breach of contract; we know very little about what happened on that front, and it very well may be that Nintendo had every reason to fire her, either for reasons of breach of contract or for public relations actions that the company didn't feel reflected them properly. That's a whole other can of worms (and an interesting one, as PR people are becoming much more front-facing as "people" nowadays).
My concern mirrors the one mentioned by the IGDA; I don't think it's a good thing for the future of the industry for such a major player to pretend that there's not a very real problem with harassment in the community when one of their own is wrapped up in it. The way the situation was handled, I think, has the potential to propagate the cycle.
@Yorumi, I'm a regular forum poster and years-long reader of the site. I prefer not to post in the comments, but the forum discussion on this issue was unfortunately closed.
Ah, the Nintendo Life community's creepy GamerGate undertones strike again. In today's news, this marketing woman ruined Fire Emblem, loved child porn all over Twitter, and got "indoctrinated" at the "radical alligator camps" known as colleges. Because none of that sounds remotely crazy, right?
I was sad to see this topic get shut down in the forums when GG entered the discussion, because they're at the core of said discussion. The thing is, there's all kinds of room to agree or disagree about whether or not Ms. Rapp was doing her job well or if her moonlighting job violated her agreement with Nintendo. I don't think many rational people would be as passionate about the issue as we've seen had this been the entirety of the issue.
But it wasn't the case — these factors are a part of the issue; harassment is at the core. And that's why what the IGDA (love 'em or dismiss 'em) points out here is important: This person was the subject of life-altering harassment from a hate group that continues to poison the video game community. And for that hate group, this is a major victory. It sets a dangerous precedent and sends a message that hate works — by now, GG has moved on to their next victim.
As for what Nintendo "should have" done, that's open for debate, and it's an insanely tricky question. Whether they put themselves in that position or not, Nintendo got wrapped up in the actions of a malignant group. I don't feel as though silence on the issue of a hate-fueled smear campaign — a depressingly recurring theme for women in this industry — was the right choice.
So, yes, I agree with the IGDA's statement. Glad to see Nintendo get called out here.
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Re: The Game Sony Tried To Silence Is Getting An Uncensored English Language Release On Switch
Jesus, the framing of this article is ridiculous. How very draconian of Sony to try to "silence" the high art of fondling underage anime tiddy.
Re: Editorial: Losing It All - When a Wii U's External Hard Drive Dies
@ThomasBW84, I feel your pain, though I honestly think the issue boils down to one key thing: Cloud saves should be standard practice at this point.
In concept, I'm alright with using an external drive — having the option to buy your own is nice, especially given their dirt-cheap prices. So I also use an external HD, but because I always play around with system settings when I get new tech, I've known since day one that you can't have a game save on the internal drive while the game itself is on the external, or vice versa. This is also counter-intuitive, extremely short-sighted, and backwards on Nintendo's part.
I'm constantly listening and looking for signs of failure, and will transfer to a new HD at the first signal. However, the simple presence of cloud saves would turn the situation of hard-drive failure into less of a catastrophe and more of an inconvenience. Re-downloading your games is time-consuming, but Ninty's account system does make that fairly easy. Losing your saves forever, though? That's inexcusable in 2016.
I should point out something that everyone seems to have forgotten, though. They're characteristically late to the party, but Nintendo has already confirmed that cloud saves are coming. I'd bet on it for NX: http://www.polygon.com/2015/10/29/9634508/new-nintendo-accounts-will-support-cloud-saves-facebook-twitter-sign
Re: International Game Developers Association Issues Critical Statement Over Nintendo and Alison Rapp
@shaneoh, easy there, hoss. No need to get heated.
As I said in my original post and elsewhere, I'm not concerned with her views. I'm not concerned with her breach of contract; we know very little about what happened on that front, and it very well may be that Nintendo had every reason to fire her, either for reasons of breach of contract or for public relations actions that the company didn't feel reflected them properly. That's a whole other can of worms (and an interesting one, as PR people are becoming much more front-facing as "people" nowadays).
My concern mirrors the one mentioned by the IGDA; I don't think it's a good thing for the future of the industry for such a major player to pretend that there's not a very real problem with harassment in the community when one of their own is wrapped up in it. The way the situation was handled, I think, has the potential to propagate the cycle.
Re: International Game Developers Association Issues Critical Statement Over Nintendo and Alison Rapp
@Yorumi, I'm a regular forum poster and years-long reader of the site. I prefer not to post in the comments, but the forum discussion on this issue was unfortunately closed.
Re: International Game Developers Association Issues Critical Statement Over Nintendo and Alison Rapp
@shaneoh, yeah, a pretentious tweet should definitely get you fired from your job and targeted by a hate group. Good call.
Re: International Game Developers Association Issues Critical Statement Over Nintendo and Alison Rapp
Ah, the Nintendo Life community's creepy GamerGate undertones strike again. In today's news, this marketing woman ruined Fire Emblem, loved child porn all over Twitter, and got "indoctrinated" at the "radical alligator camps" known as colleges. Because none of that sounds remotely crazy, right?
I was sad to see this topic get shut down in the forums when GG entered the discussion, because they're at the core of said discussion. The thing is, there's all kinds of room to agree or disagree about whether or not Ms. Rapp was doing her job well or if her moonlighting job violated her agreement with Nintendo. I don't think many rational people would be as passionate about the issue as we've seen had this been the entirety of the issue.
But it wasn't the case — these factors are a part of the issue; harassment is at the core. And that's why what the IGDA (love 'em or dismiss 'em) points out here is important: This person was the subject of life-altering harassment from a hate group that continues to poison the video game community. And for that hate group, this is a major victory. It sets a dangerous precedent and sends a message that hate works — by now, GG has moved on to their next victim.
As for what Nintendo "should have" done, that's open for debate, and it's an insanely tricky question. Whether they put themselves in that position or not, Nintendo got wrapped up in the actions of a malignant group. I don't feel as though silence on the issue of a hate-fueled smear campaign — a depressingly recurring theme for women in this industry — was the right choice.
So, yes, I agree with the IGDA's statement. Glad to see Nintendo get called out here.