But lets get real here the reason these lawsuits even exist is because of one thing. We expect hardware to last much longer than the warranty. A keyboard, mouse, or even a ps4 controller dont go out during the warranty or shortly after it expires unless there is a defect in the hardware. So why then when a Nintendo product fails we cant call it that?
@datamonkey yeah its a shame they dont support everyone, but at the same time they should just actually fix the issue. Instead they decided to work on a new device.
Do I hate the switch system? No I do not infact I love it. However, because of the sour taste in my mouth I dont play it. 2 pairs of Joy-Cons failed and not all games work on a pro controller btw. Aslo, its the same reason I dont play my ps4. My controllers broke. Just haven't had the cash to buy new ones. However, the DS4 controllers I have are ancient and have been through a good life.
@FlashBoomerang Actually he does have a point. Why should be have to resort to constant repair, a modder, or even a different controller to fix the issue? When we expect the product from the beginning to just work and be good?
@FlashBoomerang yeah but we shouldn't have to do that is what I'm saying. Especially with a Nintendo product. Like so many people have said. Nintendo used to mean durable, and riable hardware. My DS, Gamecube, N64, and even my Super Nintendo still refuse to die! They work just as well as ever. Also, how come the Nintendo modding community is able to put in a better analog that still fits in the sleek design but Nintendo cant?
@GoblinKing86 bro I cleaned my second pair DAILY exact to Nintendo instructions. Guess what? UNDER CAREFUL USE THEY STILL DRIFTED! Its not a care issue. Its a hardware issue.
This is the Wii remote issue all over again! They rush the Wii remote and it had signal issues and they actually said they knew about it after they released the "fix" for it. Saying we knew about the problem but didn't know how to fix it until now. Honestly if they had delayed the launch a bit and came out with a more stable remote it would have been so much better. Then we skip the travesty that is the WiiU. It was a solid system with a solid controller, but no one like it for some reason. So we come off this huge flop of WiiU abd Nintendo needs a big win right? So they basically shrink down the WiiU into the switch. Yup, they went handheld again, sort of, which they are well known for because of their wildly successful handheld devices. So they give us these Joy-Cons as they're called. Awew how cute because they're supposed to give us joy right, bet you its a shortened form of joystick controllers, but looking at these controllers some even right out of the box (yes the licensed ones) have issues. Sure if you get a defective pair right from the store what do you do? Well you return/exchange them for a different pair. However, what do you do a couple of weeks to a year later? Well you send them in to be fixed by Nintendo. I did that and they told me, "We found dirt and debris in the controllers and it voids the warranty. So we won't fix these until you pay the repair fee and we need an answer soon." Well the repair fee was so high I might as well have just bought new controllers so I did. This pair was my second pair btw. I had them for about a month and a half and I took care of the suckers. Treated them like glass and cleaned them constantly per Nintedo's instructions. They started to drift and go to a point where I couldn't stop the drifting almost immediately after the problem started again. Tbh Nintendo prioritized a good looking product. They said it themself that they wanted to be able to slim down the joy con so it fit the system better. Imo I would have preferred a bulkier, sturdier build over a thinner inferior product. I'm glad people are fighting back against Nintendo. Because the last solid controller they had that didnt need any rework was anything before the Wii. These Joy Cons are a bad joke at best with a lucky few out there who have had 0 issues, but its few and far between. How come you can pay a modder to mod your joy cons and they can put in much studier and better analog sticks that fit into the controller, and last but Nintendo cant? Sure modders will basically give you a whole new Joy Con basically when you pay for a comestic change as well, but still it took them how long to figure that out? While Nintendo still can't seem to stop defending these weak controllers? There's even a modder getting rid of the sticks entirely and going to a touch sensitive system! That even supports push input! Why? Because these analog sticks are such a big problem! Why can't Nintendo look at us to consumers and be like, "Oh crap we're losing money because so many people hate the Joy Cons." I have stopped playing my switch because of the Joy Con issue. Yup I love Nintendo, but I dont play on things that dont work! Please Nintendo get it together for your loyal fans and customers. There are other manufacturers out there that make a superior analog stick you can order in bulk and will fit the slim design.
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Re: Switch Joy-Con Drift Claim Must Be Arbitrated, Says Illinois Federal Court
@Late makes sense to me.
Re: Switch Joy-Con Drift Claim Must Be Arbitrated, Says Illinois Federal Court
But lets get real here the reason these lawsuits even exist is because of one thing. We expect hardware to last much longer than the warranty. A keyboard, mouse, or even a ps4 controller dont go out during the warranty or shortly after it expires unless there is a defect in the hardware. So why then when a Nintendo product fails we cant call it that?
Re: Switch Joy-Con Drift Claim Must Be Arbitrated, Says Illinois Federal Court
@Niofe agreed. Its all a part of communicating. I dont think English is their first language though.
Re: Switch Joy-Con Drift Claim Must Be Arbitrated, Says Illinois Federal Court
@datamonkey yeah its a shame they dont support everyone, but at the same time they should just actually fix the issue. Instead they decided to work on a new device.
Re: Switch Joy-Con Drift Claim Must Be Arbitrated, Says Illinois Federal Court
Do I hate the switch system? No I do not infact I love it. However, because of the sour taste in my mouth I dont play it. 2 pairs of Joy-Cons failed and not all games work on a pro controller btw. Aslo, its the same reason I dont play my ps4. My controllers broke. Just haven't had the cash to buy new ones. However, the DS4 controllers I have are ancient and have been through a good life.
Re: Switch Joy-Con Drift Claim Must Be Arbitrated, Says Illinois Federal Court
Like we don't expect the controllers to be immortal. What we do expect is a decent lifespan though.
Re: Switch Joy-Con Drift Claim Must Be Arbitrated, Says Illinois Federal Court
@Niofe Agreed. You're making valid points.
Re: Switch Joy-Con Drift Claim Must Be Arbitrated, Says Illinois Federal Court
@FlashBoomerang Actually he does have a point. Why should be have to resort to constant repair, a modder, or even a different controller to fix the issue? When we expect the product from the beginning to just work and be good?
Re: Switch Joy-Con Drift Claim Must Be Arbitrated, Says Illinois Federal Court
@sandman89 you're one of the lucky ones. Tbh there are some here and there that will work perfectly with no issues what so ever.
Re: Switch Joy-Con Drift Claim Must Be Arbitrated, Says Illinois Federal Court
@FlashBoomerang yeah but we shouldn't have to do that is what I'm saying. Especially with a Nintendo product. Like so many people have said. Nintendo used to mean durable, and riable hardware. My DS, Gamecube, N64, and even my Super Nintendo still refuse to die! They work just as well as ever. Also, how come the Nintendo modding community is able to put in a better analog that still fits in the sleek design but Nintendo cant?
Re: Switch Joy-Con Drift Claim Must Be Arbitrated, Says Illinois Federal Court
@GoblinKing86 bro I cleaned my second pair DAILY exact to Nintendo instructions. Guess what? UNDER CAREFUL USE THEY STILL DRIFTED! Its not a care issue. Its a hardware issue.
Re: Switch Joy-Con Drift Claim Must Be Arbitrated, Says Illinois Federal Court
@FlashBoomerang been there done that. They said the problem voided the warranty and wanted to charge me basically the price of a new pair to fix it.
Re: Switch Joy-Con Drift Claim Must Be Arbitrated, Says Illinois Federal Court
This is the Wii remote issue all over again! They rush the Wii remote and it had signal issues and they actually said they knew about it after they released the "fix" for it. Saying we knew about the problem but didn't know how to fix it until now. Honestly if they had delayed the launch a bit and came out with a more stable remote it would have been so much better. Then we skip the travesty that is the WiiU. It was a solid system with a solid controller, but no one like it for some reason. So we come off this huge flop of WiiU abd Nintendo needs a big win right? So they basically shrink down the WiiU into the switch. Yup, they went handheld again, sort of, which they are well known for because of their wildly successful handheld devices. So they give us these Joy-Cons as they're called. Awew how cute because they're supposed to give us joy right, bet you its a shortened form of joystick controllers, but looking at these controllers some even right out of the box (yes the licensed ones) have issues. Sure if you get a defective pair right from the store what do you do? Well you return/exchange them for a different pair. However, what do you do a couple of weeks to a year later? Well you send them in to be fixed by Nintendo. I did that and they told me, "We found dirt and debris in the controllers and it voids the warranty. So we won't fix these until you pay the repair fee and we need an answer soon." Well the repair fee was so high I might as well have just bought new controllers so I did. This pair was my second pair btw. I had them for about a month and a half and I took care of the suckers. Treated them like glass and cleaned them constantly per Nintedo's instructions. They started to drift and go to a point where I couldn't stop the drifting almost immediately after the problem started again. Tbh Nintendo prioritized a good looking product. They said it themself that they wanted to be able to slim down the joy con so it fit the system better. Imo I would have preferred a bulkier, sturdier build over a thinner inferior product. I'm glad people are fighting back against Nintendo. Because the last solid controller they had that didnt need any rework was anything before the Wii. These Joy Cons are a bad joke at best with a lucky few out there who have had 0 issues, but its few and far between. How come you can pay a modder to mod your joy cons and they can put in much studier and better analog sticks that fit into the controller, and last but Nintendo cant? Sure modders will basically give you a whole new Joy Con basically when you pay for a comestic change as well, but still it took them how long to figure that out? While Nintendo still can't seem to stop defending these weak controllers? There's even a modder getting rid of the sticks entirely and going to a touch sensitive system! That even supports push input! Why? Because these analog sticks are such a big problem! Why can't Nintendo look at us to consumers and be like, "Oh crap we're losing money because so many people hate the Joy Cons." I have stopped playing my switch because of the Joy Con issue. Yup I love Nintendo, but I dont play on things that dont work! Please Nintendo get it together for your loyal fans and customers. There are other manufacturers out there that make a superior analog stick you can order in bulk and will fit the slim design.