
The developers behind the iOS app Delta, which lets users emulate thousands of Nintendo games on iPhone and iPad, have hastily updated the app's logo after receiving legal threats from Photoshop creator Adobe (thanks, The Verge).
In an update via the App Store, the notes simply state "Adobe threatened legal action unless we changed our app icon - so we did! Hope y'all like it ". The new permanent logo is yet to be revealed, but for now, the old logo has been humorously amended to avoid any potential similarities.
According to emails from developer Riley Testut sent to The Verge, Adobe's lawyers had reached out to request that a different logo be used going forward, albeit with no apparent threat issued. However, just one day later, an email from Apple suggested that the Delta app itself would be at risk of being removed, citing communication from Adobe to state that Delta was infringing on its intellectual property rights.
The developers responded to both Adobe and Apple to state that the logo was based on the stylised Greek letter 'delta', and not the letter 'A', however they pledged to change it promptly to 'avoid confusion' (and the obvious legal issues that might ensue).
So, for now, we've got a pretty wacky logo to contend with, but the Delta developers hope to have a new permanent logo ready in line with the deployment of Delta 1.6.
Do you think the original Delta logo was too similar to Adobe's? What do you think of the new one? Let us know with a comment.
[source theverge.com]
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Shouldn't this kind of news get an extra big headline for just how important it is?
I wonder who they copied this time...
They just flipped it from the y-axis and slightly turned around the top part. (Which is pretty comedic)
Definitely not worth risking it being taken down for such a reason, but it's still dumb that a single letter only slightly modified could be used as a logo in the first place and that goes for both parties.
Emulate games, emulate logos, can they do anything original?
@JohnnyMind Yeah. I don't mind either of them having the logo, but they should not be able to trademark it. I'm pretty sure trademark law says as much, but it may be legally arguable since they stylized and colored it.. but then they stylized and colored differently, so I don't see a case.
This is funny because delta’s logo is the letter delta and adobe’s logo is the letter A written like the letter delta.
It's would be funny if Delta airline also sue them for using that company's name for an app. Something tell me these guys are going to see more troubles coming their way soon. May as well remove the emulator from iOS for good, doesn't look like anyone want it there to begin with. People who used iOS doesn't play retro games anyways. I don't think I ever knew or see any one who use their iPhone to play games especially on emulator.
I really think it is stupid for companies to try and copyright things that everyone is free to use, or act as if they are the only ones who own the rights to use a specific thing; in this case, the letter delta. Sure, it does appear similar to the Adobe logo, but there actually isn’t a delta in Adobe’s, and it’s rather an “A” that is supposed to look like a delta from its stylization. There are differences in the designs of the two logos, even if they appear to be a little small.
With how simple Adobe's logo is, I wouldn't be surprised if both of these groups happened to stumble upon the same design by chance. If that can happen, then should it really be trademark-able?
@Serpenterror I use Delta on IOS, and I play retro games. The reason you never have seen people play retro games on IOS is probably because there has not been an easy way to do so until now.
@Serpenterror Emulation on IOS is a very new thing with a clear demand for it. Delta was #1 in the app store for a bit there, and emulators like PPSSPP and retro arch have also found their way near the top of the list as well.
Emulation on IOS has been a godsend for me! I adore retro consoles and all, but it’s really convenient to have all of my games on a app.
@Serpenterror “May as well remove the emulator from iOS for good, doesn't look like anyone want it there to begin with.”
It’s currently #50 on the list of most popular free apps on the App Store, and was #1 when it came out. Soooooo….yeah, some folks definitely want it.
@SteveDaSteve @Astal I don't think it's a new thing, while I don't see any one playing on iPhone, I do see a lot who play it on iPad. I'm talking gaming in general though, not just emulation. There's internet browsers where you could go play retro games online on the iPad, I'm curious if that same privilege still apply to iPhone.
Is there anything original about this company?
It's funny because you can buy similar looking logos from Adobe Stock https://stock.adobe.com/uk/search?k=delta+symbol&asset_id=305884283
It’s somewhat funny that the app that’s literally named “delta” would be unable to use the delta character in its icon, only because a bigger company likes to use it instead of “A”.
@Astal I absolutely love the emulation on Delta too! I’ve so far only used it for N64 games, but it has let me play titles that I’ve wanted to try for a while that have not been re-released on modern hardware. Another plus, at least for me, is how you can play it wherever you go.
The logo is irrelevant to me. Delta on iOS is one of the best emulators I’ve tried. Really accurate and the UI is top tier. Only Nintendo’s in house GBA emulator is more accurate.
@Serpenterror it’s a new thing in the vein of these App’s only recently being allowed onto the Apple App Store. It’s nothing new for Android users, but Delta is a godsend of a thing that does so many things better than NSO does.
I now don’t need to wait for Nintendo to take years to add games I want to the service. The phone method is far more portable than carrying around a switch on the bus, and a lot of the simpler titles can be played easily on the iPhone without a traditional controller.
Even then, If the touch screen is not ideal then just Bluetooth a Switch Pro Controller to the phone. Then, take it one step further and screen mirror the phone to the TV and it basically is the NSO with a better library (and platform) of games. Crazy stuff.
i didnt realize Adobe owned the letter A
Funny that Adobe feels threatened considering Adobe doesn't even sell its products anymore, insisting that you rent them instead.
Then again, this is probably from the same lawyers that wrote up a whole thing demanding that people only say "Photoshop" as a proper noun and not a verb, lest usage become enough that Adobe lose its trademark ownership rights (as what happened to whoever came up with laser, and some other words I can't recall immediately. Definitely yo-yo, as StarTropics made us aware of.)
Delta has been using this logo for a pretty long time......its only once it got approved for iphone and blew up on the app store that Adobe took notice.
@NintendomPower If we'd all use Photoshop as a verb more often, we the people would have the power to get it declared a generic word and Adobe's trademark would get canceled.
This is probably from that same legal concern.
Aren't adobe products bloody useless compared to the competition?
Forget Photoshop. If you wanna draw, just get Clip Studio Paint.
I’d have just switched to a lower-case delta - δ.
It’s clearly meant to be a riff on the A from the GBA & GameCube’s wordmarks. Nowhere near the thickness or colour of Adobe’s logo. Ridiculously childish of them.
Very petty from Adobe.
@darkswabber
@Eel
But the letter Delta does not have the opening like the Adobe logo? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_(letter)
@Serpenterror It’s trending on the App Store. People definitely want it and use it. Just because you don’t see doesn’t mean they don’t want it.
@Lofoten as someone else mentioned, it’s stylized to resemble the A’s in the GBA and GC logos
But I think most people that see it will recognize it’s supposed to be the Delta character. (Not that it matters now though)
I love this new joke logo, they should absolutely keep it 😄
Removed - trolling/baiting
These comments sections are always gold. I don't like adobe products and I like to pretend I'm punk for using an emulator therefore they have no legal claim to that logo.
I'd have just flipped Adobe the bird, the AI-peddling, subscription-hawking, use-limiting cretins.
That sure is... a design choice!
@PikminMarioKirby Good catch, Sherlock.
While it's kind of sus to try to copyright an entire letter of an alphabet, they did use a nearly identical font to Adobe, so Adobe does have a point.
@Astal Been loving the new emus on the new iPad 13”. Never gamed on my iPad before but now all of a sudden it’s my new obsession, lol
Still waiting for ipad support. Also just bought 8bitdo sn30 pro and playing delta all over again, it's just so much fun playing nes/snes/n64 games on my iphone/ipad using this controller.
Heck, playing mario 64 is better on delta compared to switch online+expansion subs since I can change the buttons configuration, the n64 button config on switch is unplayable, and why the heck nintendo sells their n64 switch gamepad exclusively rather than normally like joycons? I want to buy n64 switch controller but it's so rare (and expensive) in my country so I have to import it, unlike the switch and its joycons which I can buy on my local gameshop.
@Astal Delta is a really really good emulator with amazing sync backup solutions, and pssp is great too, after buying 8bitdo gamepad I can't stop playing delta/pssp on my iphone/ipad lol.
@NinChocolate I have old 1st gen (2018) ipad pro 11inch and its amazing for playing emulation games, I want the new 13inch pro but it's too expensive for me 😅
They could change the logo to a river delta.
It even kind of makes sense for an emulator, symbolizing one source leading to many experiences.
@Serpenterror do you often push your views onto people. They should remove it. What are you chatting. I use my iPhone for emulation. Now as someone else commented on it being a new thing. In the traditional sense of downloading an app. It’s a very new thing. Remains very high in top the charts for iOS too. You as a consumer should have the ability to install what you want on YOUR device. You paid for it. I will always emulate and as emulators mature. It will always be the superior experience than original hardware most of the time. Finally having GTA VCS, LCS and Super Street Fighter II Turbo Revival all running better than on original hardware. They don’t want my money, I’ll sail the high seas to acquire it and I can do all that comfortably on one device with zero issue thanks to the App Store rule change. Plus I can send some money to the developers.
PS Most people played Mother 3 thanks to emulation.
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