Nintendo Releases Free Super Mario Bros. Movie 'Strategy Guide' (Japan)

@GoshJosh So that's why so many people loved it, even many who never played any Mario games.

@GoshJosh The best part of your comment was the second fullstop. The worst part of your comment was everything before that.

@BTB20 Alrighty then!

@CharlieZee Eh, I think all of it was pretty okay myself. To each their own I suppose. Could have been a bit more spicy for sure though.

My friend and I went to see this when it came out. She didn't need a strategy guide, she had me pointing out the easter eggs. 😅

@CharlieZee I even took offence at his second full stop. Your comment however is gold.

@BundyDanger I mean you don't have to agree with the person, but don't be sensitive about it at the same time. Not everyone loved the movie. Is such disagreements not allowed on this site or is it positive vibes only?

Sorry, but nothing the commenter said seems like anything to be worked up about.

Here we go again. Nobody’s allowed to critique this movie which has ruined Mario for me altogether.
I’m glad you all enjoyed it but I honestly don’t see how this movie could have been worse in any way. It’s really one of the most horrid animated films I’ve ever seen.

And before you start getting personally offended and attacking me with “It sold well so it MUST be good”:
Almost nobody went to see The Boy and the Heron in NA/EU
Does that make Miyazaki trash and Illumination masters of cinema?

@PinderSchloss

has it really ruined Mario for you altogether?

so that you can no longer enjoy playing Super Mario World?

@PinderSchloss I don't think the mario movie is particularly good - though i don't really view it as some great disgrace or whatever, it's aesthetically pleasing and stuff - but it's obviously in a very different category in terms of audience and artistic intent to the boy and the heron

@InnerSound I know that. I was just trying to make a point about how sales don’t determine quality.

@PinderSchloss I don't get the idea behind something making billions is proof of good quality. To me it just means it did it's job.

Personally, I just can't agree with fans saying: "Mario has not plot, so what did expect from a movie?" But, hey that's the excuse so eh. Feels more insulting in my opinion but eh.

The movie is mid for sure, much better movies released. But yes, I agree. Incredibles 2 was highest grossing animated film of 2018, yet the most talked about movie that year was Spiderman.

@Uncle_Franklin Before this movie, I had little Mario references around my house, like mushroom figurines under my plants. I took them all away because I now associate Mario with an obnoxious dumbed down product for the masses.
These will always be great games, but I have no interest in Wonder whatsoever because I still have nightmarish flashbacks of mindless CGI puppets jumping around for 1,5 hours and making me want to pour acid into my brain to make it stop. I literally couldn’t sleep the next night and even the poster triggers me now.

@PinderSchloss i think saying it "ruined mario" is a little overdramatic.

@Vexx234 I also don’t get how the rules for a plot would be the same for a game and a movie. Sure, Mario games were never ‘deep’ but at least you had the gameplay to make up for it.
In a movie, you’re already more passive, so I was hoping at least my thoughts would be challenged a little bit.

@Bratwurst35 Nah I’m not offended at all. I was just rolling with the fun times. It’s only an animated movie. Like it, hate it or love it it’s all good.

@Frailbay30 😉

@CharlieZee That comment says a lot about your perception of animation.
A good animated film can also be enjoyed by adults on a different level and can be taken just as seriously as any other movie in terms of critique.

@epicgamner I get how it might sound but you can’t look inside my head. I get sensory overload from walking to the store around my corner.
So when something is actively aiming for such overload, it gets exponentially worse and it has an almost paralysing effect on me.

@PinderSchloss

I can't comment on the the sensory overload issues, that seems to be more a problem with how you experience products in general, but when it comes to dumbed down media, the Super Mario Bros. Super Show and Super Mario World cartoons already existed. As did the live action Super Mario Bros. movie.

@BundyDanger Wow. You all had alot of fun and once more I missed it. Poor me. Happy new Year.

the movie is literally a 90 minute advert for all Mario games. It's literally genius marketing strategy. Anyone who likes Nintendo and wants them to do well should see that. Well done Nintendo, well done 👏

@Uncle_Franklin Meh. the film is by illumination, the writer is behind Big Momma's house 3, and it's a video game movie. The only thing Mario had to top was the 90's film.

The bar was already low. Just a step over would have been enough, and Mario movie managed to pull it off. It's a win win for everyone. It was going to succeed regardless of the quality simply on brand recognition alone.

If it somehow failed, that would've been an anomaly for sure.

@PinderSchloss I don't want to be rude but it confuses me to say that mario has been "dumbed down for the masses". the series has always been for literally everyone

@InnerSound I don't want to be rude either, but something can be for everyone and dumbed down at the same time.

@GooseLoose1 i don't think you're incorrect there but i still find it hard to see how the movie constitutes a dumbing down, like yeah it's not a great film but it's hardly indicative of a broader trend, im yet to play wonder but ive heard its on the challenging end of the spectrum as far as mario games go

i frankly don't care about the mario movie all that much but i dunno why people would treat it as some desecration of the series it's a Fine movie and it's not idk super show (which i have an immense fondness for but is tragically dumb) didn't exist

If you think this movie is bad, at all. You should watch the original Super Mario Bros movie. And then rewatch the new one.

It's not the Best Movie Ever Made. But it is a good movie. It's a bit simple, but that's because it's purely aimed at children.

@sanderev i like the 1993 movie a lot more, it's weird and off-putting and bold

@InnerSound I don't know how any of it relates to Mario myself. Just pointing out being made for the masses while also dumbed down is a very real thing.

@JohnnyMind I read this entire comment section, even before the removed comments. Nothing about them were extreme. Not to be mean, but you using that word out of context in this case.

Maybe it's this new generation's way of seeing things, but growing up we call what's going on here, a passionate heated argument. Until it devolves into people mud slinging, nothing about it is extreme.

Yes, there are cases with extreme views that can be applied, but none are to be found here.

I grew up with friends, and made friends with people where we have heated discussions all the time. We're all still cool at the end of the day. From the things I discuss on the daily, this is the most tame comment section in the world.

If you wanna know about the remove comments, it's just one user made a snarky remark, and another user who started off with a with a snappy comeback, devolved into just tossing shade at everyone. Other than that it's sane here.

For what it's worth, a comment section is a poor place to have any discussion about anything. The problem with an open forum is it invites everyone to give input, so you just have to accept bad actors.

Edit: It also doesn't help, that social sites have like NL have implemented a like system either. You can't have a discussion when a user thinks having more thumbs up than you is a sign they are correct somehow. This is why I prefer joints where no such systems are in place. It forces you actually talk, rather than just say whatevers currently going to get you the most likes possible.

@WaffleRaptor01

I'm not sure what point you're countering.

@JohnnyMind It's not though. Atleast not to me. I guess extreme has different meanings for everyone.

Someone saying the film is terrible and calling for the beheading of everyone involved? Extreme

Someone being a **hat? Eh, i don't think so.

I will concede and say the person who removed all Mario references of Mario over a movie is being dramatic though. But then again, I've known people to say things for dramatic flair. I still think this is a pretty tame comment section so far. Atleast the Mario guy is generous and responding back, explaining why they disliked the film. Even if it is over the top.

Again, just different perspectives. I don't see it as bad.

@Uncle_Franklin I not countering an point. I'm simply saying the Mario movie had nowhere to go but up. If it failed somehow that would have been spectacular.

@WaffleRaptor01

well, that doesn't seem to pertain to what I said, but ok.

@InnerSound Funny enough, Miyamoto doesn't hate the film with passion like his fans does. Dudes pretty neutral on the whole thing.

@sanderev See, this where is fans confuse me. I said it's aimed at young children and people throw a fit about it. Anyways, I don't think we should keep using the 90's film as an excuse to say "It's better than nothing". Standards have changed alot since then.

A movie aimed at kids doesn't mean it needs to treat kids as if all they know are loud sounds and pretty colors. Pixar makes movies for kids, but at the same time adds layers and depth. It's why even as a kid, some things you didn't understand then, you appreciate more as you get older.

Dreamworks does the same to some extent and Focus Features, which were behind films like Caroline and Kubo and the two strings did too. Kubo receiving critical acclaim.

@PinderSchloss My brother in Christ, this is not 1993. This is the year 2023.

Anyways, I get why this movie can be boring, but your calling it terrible? One of the worst animated movies ever? So bad it ruins your interest in Mario? Have you seen films like Food Fight? Earwig at the Witch? Alpha and Omega? Pretty much most of the Video Brinquindo library? OTHER ILLUMINATION FILMS.

I can't take comments like "this is one of the worst movies ever" when at worst the movie gets a 5 for being too boring at times. But to then double it up with "this movie has ruined the rest of the franchise for me" when it really only exists in its own little bubble is absurd.

If anything, Mario fans have over time, ruined my enjoyment for the Mario franchise, for not expanding their tastes to then come out with the most normie opinions for other Nintendo franchises that they refuse to actually care about, and extreme takes over the most irrelevant things like this take.

@InTree I still enjoy the Mario franchise as games and media. Just not really the discussion of it anymore. Rest in piece F-Zero (kinda) and Wave Race (really), casuals would only buy Mario Kart over you. You both have my respect.

When I went to go see the Mario Movie with my friends one of them and I we were pointing out the references in the theater, I loved seeing all of the Nintendo nods but I wish they referenced more modern Nintendo games too. I also watched Vinny’s recent stream of the Mario anime movie from 1986 and it was really interesting to see after watching this one

...People are hating on the movie now?...Ugh, I can't keep up with you kids. lol