Reminder: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet + DLC Physical Release Now Available

Hm...
No.
What is the point to release DLC in physical when the part 2 is NOT included in the cartridge and we have to download from internet?
Wasting the material of physical games.

Sw/Sh had the full expansion included on the cart. Why can't this?

(Obviously to meet an American Thanksgiving deadline).

This game is a total farce. Those sleeves should also have a reminder saying you need to download a whole lot of patience to deal with the awful performance.

@Anti-Matter It comes with the base game and the first DLC on a physical cartridge, how is that wasting material?

What a RIPOFF why not allow previous preorder buyers get credit and return the first release to get full package now??? Let me guess the JPN release will have both DLC right? Just like how they update BOTW with all the DLC packages.

@GOmar You already missed the reply by AntiMatter already.

@Potato-man news flash, almost every game that releases nowadays has updates....

If you read what Serebii.net said, the DLC serial is already on the cart. If this was a physical release that only had a code inside, then your complaints would be warranted.

I don't see how this is any different than what we have to accept as the current state of game releases never really being complete on disc / cart (like it has been for 10 years now).

@SwitchForce Your comment doesn't make sense to me. Anti matter said this release is a waste of material, how is that so? It contains an entire game plus DLC, for someone like me that hasn't gotten the game yet, it is great value.

For the cartridge to be "a waste of material" it would have to be blank and useless....

Despite the download, it'll work great for anyone with more than one Switch and different accounts. They'll only have to pay for the DLC once, then they can just swap the game cards around, instead of needing the correct DLC for their version on the correct system and correct account.

What a great market practice, marking the game as complete with DLC only to not include said DLC on the cartridge

I love this series but I don't think there are 5 braincells left at GameFreak

@nukatha This is a worldwide release. @SwitchForce There will be no later Japanese release.

@SwitchForce These "base game + DLC" physical versions cost much more than the base games.

This is a similar situation to the recent Japan-only 'Mario Kart 8 Deluxe + Booster Course Pass' physical version which released before the final Wave of DLC, so will also require an update.

I tried my hand at this gen and .. well… I’m looking ahead to the next one already. Can’t get over the performance enough to enjoy it. I keep feeling like it could be better and that hampers the experience too much. I’m about to start my 3rd play through of Sun/Moon. Amazing games…!
See y’all next gen.

@ChromaticDracula

I love those games too... in fact UltraSun I had just under 600 hours in.

They need to stop doing this. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe got a physical release in Japan that includes all but one wave of the Booster Course Pass, like they couldn't wait a few months and put everything on the cart.

@Mauzuri oh wow … I definitely don’t feel that way. I guess it depends which ones you’ve played prior. I’m someone who played red and yellow and then the next games I played were black/white and then alpha sapphire and then sun/moon. I skipped and missed all those in between really. I just thought Sun/moon had really great writing and a massive Pokédex to fill.
To each their own I suppose!

The problem for me is that Nintendo had alreset a precedent of their "full physical releases" in Tetris 99, Snipperclips Plus, Pokémon Sword/Shield, Splatoon 2, Breath of the Wild (though these two were only for Japan) and I believe Cadence of Hyrule as well.
So now this and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe go against what they had done.

Then again, Nintendo released a Code-in-box of Xenoblade 2: Torna - The Golden Country.

Hard pass. I was and am still upset with the quality of Scarlet and Violet so not supporting that any more. Haven't bought the DLC and don't plan to

I think people are reading this wrong, it sounds like the second DLC is on the cartridge but needs an update to unlock it on release day, to avoid people getting it early and posting spoilers.

@GOmar Typical...no lost here.

Problem here is some bought both or individual DLC previously already. That's the burn here. If they were planning such option why not allow preorder buyers to send back and get a update to those when send it back with receipt showing they were preorder and the DLC they bought to quality for the update by sending back their older product.

@HammerGalladeBro Which is odd, given the first time, it was actual cartridges.

@KayFiOS It sounds like everything is on the cart. You will just need to download an update to activate The Indigo Disk portion of the DLC when it releases. At least that’s what Joe Merrick’s clarifying tweet sounds like

I’ve never seen a tweet from Joe Merrick that wasn’t passive-aggressive.

If they game was not broken I would. After playing Arceus. This game had a lot to live up to and it flopped so hard.

@SwitchForce I don't see how this is a rip-off or how you'd be entitled to a refund. The pack-in version of the game was announced earlier in the year, and there were tons of signs on the wall basically screaming that it would end up happening. This is basically for those who don't even have the game in the first place. People who want SV but didn't get it last year. There's no exclusive content, and I guarantee you that there's no performance differences between the pack-in version and standard version of the game.

You can say you got suckered out of your money, but ultimately you really didn't (outside of the quality of the product itself). Many other studios do pack-in titles for their games. I will agree that SV only having one of the two DLCs on the cartridge is idiotic, but to be mad that this exists in the first place is blatantly ignoring how Nintendo did this same exact thing with Zelda, and how other companies do this all the time. You have games like Final Fantasy XV and Monster Hunter World which both had DLC pack-ins shortly after their DLC packs released. Hell, Royal Edition for Final Fantasy XV came with an exclusive DLC that fixed some of the issues with the core game... which I'd argue is worse than what Gamefreak is doing here.

@VoidofLight IIRC that update for FF15 was a general expansion that could be upgraded from the base game as well.

On the off chance the performance is ever improved, I suppose this is the edition I’ll grab.

@SwitchForce you can't buy them individually.

@SpoonySpoons True. Forgot that you could upgrade to the Royal Edition DLC.

But have they removed all the bugs from this version? 🤔

This could mean that The Indigo Disk was going to launch much earlier, got delayed to December, but TPC went “IDC, launch the bundle now and they will download it later”. And for crap like this is the reason I stopped buying mainline pokemon games

So you know those cheap $5 DVD’s with two movies on them? Yeah, that’s what the box art looks like.

The code in the Torna case was for the base game of Xenoblade Chronicles 2. The actual Torna campaign was shipped on its own cartridge as a standalone piece of software.

At least you buy DVDs, you get the full movies on them.