Konami's Suikoden I & II HD Remaster Has Been Delayed

Isn't this the SECOND delay?! I smell vaporware incoming...

More than fine, my backlog is so filled with 40+ hour games that it's rare that I get to something on release day. I'm more than supportive of taking a few more months to make it right and let your developers get a little sleep. We'll still be here.

welp, there goes my #1 most anticipated game of 2023. 😔 this gives me doomy vibes around this game now.

honestly, a straight port with the obligatory "quality of life features" is more than enough, and even preferable. certainly preferable to mildly competant 2023/4 Konami botching the remaster.

@-wc- Yeah this sucks :- It wasn't my most ancitipated game (that was Sea of Stars which I am very happy about) but it was up there.

I'd be happy with a straight port too but then I think we'd get the same complaints that people are saying about the Metal Gear collection. It seems they are damned if they do damned if they don't.

Anything else you are still looking forward to this year? I'm very excited for the Super Mario RPG remake, I will get SMB: Wonder but I really suck at 2D Mario games so that is dampening my enthusiasm a bit for that.

I've also got hopes that Turok 3 and Star Wars Dark Forces from Nightdive come out this year. They are on a roll after the System Shock remake and it would be nice to finish the Turok trilogy.

Yeah, I'm starting to worry it's going to be silently canceled. It was announced almost a year ago, and unless I'm forgetting something, I don't recall any news coming after that original announcement until today... I kind of get the feeling this and the Dragon Quest III remake are games we'll never see at this rate.

i figured as much when you hear no news but it will be worth the wait when it is finally finished..

@ReaperMelia dragon quest 3 hd-2d remake was mentioned 2 years ago and no news since..

@ReaperMelia of course dragon quest 3 remake will be here eventually this is sqiare-enix we are talking about..

Well, can’t say I’m surprised! After hearing nothing from Konami about this game all year, I figured a 2023 release wasn’t going to happen.

This was one of my most-anticipated games, so I hope it does release someday, like they say. Such a noncommittal announcement does not fill me with confidence, though! I get the feeling that the Super Switch release is coming next year, and now Konami wants to leave their options open. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Better delayed and the game will be good rather than release it now and become a mess like cyberpunk at launch 😃

Beside, with elden ring, ff 16, armored core and switch mario rpg & wonder, my games time are full this year lol.

Both Eiyuden Chronicle and Suikoden are delayed to 2024? Interesting coincidence.

I am honestly sick and tired of video game marketing. Just please stop showing games that are years out. I only want to see them when a firm release window is in place (your game has completed development and testing). I’m looking at you Konami and Team Cherry.

@Dimjimmer It'd be too late to scrap the Switch version of both games at this point. Even if Switch's successor releases next year, the games will be cross-gen.

@wiiware Better delayed then a poor quality release? Publishers need to learn how to develop the product before marketing it to consumers. I am tired of excuses these days. Have something of quality to sell before you start hyping up a fanbase. Delays are bad for business in this crowded video game market. Just my thoughts.

It does make you wonder if they announced these games when they have 5 minutes of footage running?

Still worth the wait however, they’re in my all time top 5 of games.

No problem there. Baten Kaitos, Sea of stars and Mario Rpg, all old school jrpgs, say thank you.

Yeah, we could see this coming the moment they gave us a "2023" release date.

I am not surprised.

But whatever, there is plenty to do in the meantime.

I'm kinda relieved honestly. Happy for them to take their time to polish it (if that is indeed the intention here, and not something else...), besides my backlog is so large anyway that I'm not in a mad rush to buy this! 2023 has been a packed year for RPGs anyway lol
Just bought the physical copy of the FF Pixel Remasters anyway (expensive!!) so this will give my wallet a much needed breather

@johnedwin I showed a buddy the trailer recently and he got pretty upset when I told him that we got that 2 years ago with no news since lol, I hope Squenix are hard at work on it

As long as it turns out well I can wait.

Can Konami delay the Metal Gear collection on Switch too so we can have 60fps 🥵

That's fine. Take your time and don't screw this one up. It deserves all the attention you can give it.

@Dimjimmer Konami greenlit this in response to the Kickstarter for Eiyudeen, it would not be surprising if the delay has something to do with trying to have a similar release date.

Take your time, Konami. Don't do this release dirty like you did with MGS.

@Glassneedles Apples and oranges.

First, the original Metal Gear Solid looks rough these days. Second, the two other ports were downgraded compared to the previous ports and even the originals, being 30 FPS instead of 60 FPS. People complained the Metal Gear Sold HD ports were down.

People complained about Red Dead Redemption being a bare-bones ports because of the relatively high price.

The two first Suikoden games have aged much better due to them being 2D.

@cainswo You would have hated gaming marketing in the 90’s. Waiting years sometimes over 5 years for a game zero trailers just the occasional screenshot in a magazine that was already several months old by the time it came out. Time moved way slower back then it was excruciating waiting 6 or 7 years for the next Mario & Zelda

If you got a release window it was rarely kept alot of times you didn’t know a game was released until you saw it in a store. I remember in 95 the gaming mags were pushing sega saturn coming out in september but it released in may but the magazines covering that news didn’t come out until july or august.

I am glad they care about this remaster so much.
The Metal Gear Solid trilogy seems half-baked but is being released (I am still buying it, but just saying).

@MeatSauce In the '90s, it was extremely rare that a game could take five years and still be deemed worth releasing, due to how fast game tech increased.
On the SNES, the only game I can think of is Nosferatu. It was seen in the 1991 Nintendo Power SNES previews (and previewed in the Super NES Player's Guide, which judging by the games included was the entire 1991 lineup plus A Link to the Past), yet the game didn't get released until 1995. Equinox was another seemingly forever delayed game, Nintendo Power reviewed it in the January 1993 issue yet the game didn't ship until the middle of 1994, apparently. I wonder what the hold up was.

I agree with a lot of the posters here.

1. Delays are better than half-finished games.

2. Publishers should not announce games so early. It just puts pressure on the dev team to rush a game to completion. This is why we have crunch.

I doubt this one will be cancelled. There’s a lot of interest in this one, and remasters don’t cost as much to develop as new games. It seems like a good financial bet for Konami.

I'm actually okay with this, at least it gives me lots of time to finish Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2, Sea of Stars, WrestleQuest, Red Dead Redemption, Fire Emblem Engage, Super Mario RPG, Star Ocean: The Second Story R, Sonic Superstars, Super Mario Bros. Wonder, Dragon Quest Treasures, Dragon Quest: Infinity Strash - The Adventures of Dai, Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince, Metal Gear Solid Collection, Spider-Man 2, Mortal Kombat 1, Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, and Baten Kaitos 1 & 2.

Does the delay mean that Konami will actually have time to put the full games on the cartridge?

Guess we wait now....maybe might fit on the new 3D nand carts. They can also make Demo play that also helps peak interest as well.

@MeatSauce

Oh. I know. Believe me. I am older than you think. Atari 2600 in 87 was my first experience. Kaboom! Couldn’t get enough of it. NES around 88. Nintendo Power subscriber since day 1. Back in those days there was always something to play as a kid. Delays were nothing back then to me. Development doesn’t take 6 months to a year anymore. Seems to me they make a trailer, announce the title, then get to work. Could be 5 years before you see the game. By then you don’r care or forgot. Just my thoughts.

@cainswo That's not how game are developed I think, sometime devs find major bug problems when the game is near release date, the only choice is to release and patch it later or delay it.

Most people got so many digital games right now (either from subs or bought it cheaply when discounted) that they just don't care about delay anymore.