Japanese Charts: Zelda: TOTK And Final Fantasy XVI Battle For Supremacy

The Series S only selling 10 more than the 2DS 😬.

Hopefully in two weeks we will see Pikmin 4 at the top and that goes for the UK charts too, can't wait for my copy to arrive.

@UltimateOtaku91 We won't see it hit the charts for another 2 weeks.

Everybody 1-2-Switch is on Top 10.
Whoop, whoop !

The Switch is still selling like mad. Has a six year old console ever sold so well against newer consoles like this? Just blows my mind.

Xbox is all but dead in Japan.

I’m glad I can play both games. TOTK is better but FF16 is a great journey so far

@Rob3008 true that, it comes out late next week but won't be until the following week that it would chart, my mistake.

Both are amazing, but TOTK will win GOTY no doubt

Nice to see Master Detective still charting. Well deserved, and i hooe to see a sequel someday

And just like that Tears took back the crown.

So two weeks and Switch should hit 30 million sales in Japan. Pretty awesome.

What battle? FF16 it's underperforming in critics and sales compared to TOTK lmao

@kingbk «The Switch is still selling like mad. Has a six year old console ever sold so well against newer consoles like this?»
PlayStation 2?

By my maths in the next two months the Switch will have surpassed 30 million consoles sold in Japan. That's one sold for every four people! Incredible.

@kingbk Possibly not a console, but handhelds have had long shelf life before.. and if we're honest Switch is both.

The throne has already been claimed. FF took a shot at the king and missed. End of story.

Battle For Supremacy: JAPAN ONLY.

The WORLDWIDE throne has already been claimed: Skyrim

@Rykdrew Minecraft is the king of the world (and it released one week after Skyrim - so it did it in one week less time )

I don’t know. Nintendo has a cult following, while PlayStation a little less so.

Final Fantasy does a good bit, but the more causal gamer is going to opt for Nintendo (and subsequently Zelda).

will Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom surpass the 30 milions units sold of Breath of the Wild, becoming the highest selling game of the franchise or Breath of the Wild will stay as the highest selling game of the franchise?

Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, Super Mario Bros Wonder and the Super Mario RPG has/will given the necessary momentum for Nintendo Switch to reach the 15 milions hardwares sales, Nintendo has set this fiscal year.

I feel like Tears is going to get the Xenoblade 3 cold shoulder at the Game Awards in December.

ps5 returns to the number 1 list in the uk.while these 4 games diablo 4 final fantasy 16 street fighter 6 and f1 23... 82% of these game sales were digital..

@johnedwin The thing about digital is that once a customer buy that game the number won't go up anymore cause that same customer can't buy the game again (unless they somehow open up a new account). Physical on the other hands could be bought by the same customer multiple times adding up the chart number even more.

@UltimateOtaku91 Pikmin4ever ❤️

I secretly want the sales to start dropping off now to entice Ninty to release the SuperUltraDolphinSwitch.

Yeah, but tell us all again how the Switch NEEDS to update to stay relevant. Seems more like Sony and Microsoft proved gameplay and innovation beats graphics.

@Dizavid
Shouldn't Sony and Microsoft update since they can't even do next gen physics/ gameplay like in TotK.

As for the news, Final Fantasy lost its soul long ago. Xenoblade series is the new king of jrpgs.

@Ooccoo_Jr 2 weeks not 2 months right? Or my math was very wrong aha

At least FF16 is not just a reskin of FF15, which can’t be said for Bored of the Wild 2

Great to see TotK back at #1. And yeah, as others have already mentioned, Switch is very close to hitting 30M in Japan alone, that's pretty crazy.

@Cia I do hope Xenoblade is done now. I’m sure they have other Xeno franchises up their sleeves and I can’t wait to see that kind of game on better Nintendo hardware.

@Sidon_Zora_King Yes whoops, 2 weeks. Thought this was a monthly chart!

The greatest trick The XBox series ever pulled, was to convince the world it didn't exist.

(or something.)

I have and played both. GotY is voted by industry insiders. We vote on the fan favorite. Sales has nothing to do with GotY as "It Takes Two" has proven recently. Nobody should base sales or a GotY win on what is better as we all love games that either have poor sales or reviews. That would make a good thread someday to see what everyone's is. Mine is NieR Gestalt ps3 version with the dad...poor reviews & sales but my personal favorite game of all time.

01./03. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2023.05.12} (¥7.200) - 17.996 / 1.741.310 (-31%)
02./02. [PS5] Final Fantasy XVI # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2023.06.22} (¥9.000) - 14.109 / 387.899 (-63%)
03./04. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 9.736 / 5.364.524 (-5%)
04./01. [NSW] Master Detective Archives: Rain Code <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) {2023.06.30} (¥6.345) - 9.566 / 64.905 (-83%)
05./07. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 6.935 / 3.185.782 (-4%)
06./08. [NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports # <SPT> (Nintendo) {2022.04.29} (¥4.980) - 6.247 / 1.120.495 (-10%)
07./12. [NSW] Splatoon 3 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2022.09.09} (¥5.980) - 5.550 / 4.054.235 (+6%)
08./10. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 4.979 / 5.230.148 (-7%)
09./11. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure # <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980) - 4.727 / 3.415.119 (-11%)
10./20. [NSW] Everybody 1-2-Switch! <ETC> (Nintendo) {2023.06.30} (¥2.980) - 4.494 / 7.814 (+35%)

There's absolutely no way FFXVI is in contention with TOTK. The things gonna plummet down the charts.

Also Everybody 1-2 Switch seems to have sold more in its 2nd week than its 1st week, yet this article fails to point it out.

Strange how Push Square ... I mean Nintendolife is more interested in suggesting an underperforming Playstation 5 game is doing better than it actually is, than highlighting the overperformance of a Switch game people weren't expecting to do well.

FF XVI is probably the best game I've ever played which at that same time is a massive misstep and disappointment for its series.

Pretty cool the competition is this close. Both are radically different, but awesome experiences. Great year for gaming.

@Serpenterror true but most people would not buy a physical copy of a game they already have unless they are into collecting..

Might not be a popular opinion... but I'm genuinely enjoying FF16 a lot more than TotK.

The problem with TotK, for me, is that it's just too similar to BotW. That in itself would be fine, but for the fact I already spent 200 hours on BotW. It felt like I was playing the same game again.

Which is an interesting thing because I play other Zeldas multiple times... so why not BotW? I think it's the hours. I have played Link's Awakening and the Remake multiple times - but it still won't be anywhere near 200 hours.

I guess I burned out on this type of Zelda!

Meanwhile... Final Fantasy 16 is my first since 12. And I'm quite happy pretending it went 12 and then 16 and the games inbetween never happened. Hands down the better game for me.

I'm enjoying FF XVI alot more then tears of the Kingdom to be honest. I don't think they can be compared to each other though. FF XVI is more story driven then Zelda will ever be. Just depends on what you like more. Story or gameplay/gimmicks.

Not clear if anything major is due out in the next few weeks? If not, TotK will probably scrape another week then Pikmin 4 will take the top.

@Martijn87 What’s the ‘gimmick’ exactly?

@arabiansanchez I guess he referres to Ultra Hand and so on, since you don't have to build warships what's so ever to beat the game, bit of you want, you very well can do.
In my Point of View, BotW and TotK both provide s story as a frame work and a "guide" to explore Hyrule and to encourage you to be creative and get crazy (in a positive way). The core of both games is very "sandbox" style.
I really love it

We all know Zelda will come out on top.
The irony is I was in the 'Totk is Botw DLC' camp and wasn't too pumped about it while being extremely hyped for FF16. I ended up loving TotK and absolutely hating 16.

“Who will claim the throne?“

Yeah, I think the numbers already speak for themselves. Especially since TotK at #1, came out a month ago, compared to this month’s FFXVI.

But that’s what Square Enix gets for not releasing FFXVI as a multi-platform title.
In saying that, the FF exclusivity deal has inadvertently helped the MS/ABK acquisition go ahead, which now has CoD coming back to Nintendo consoles, so thanks for that SE.

I think it will be Zelda overall. I've heard polarizing things about FF16. some really love it (the majority, in fact.), but there's also a segment of gamers that feel like the game is a huge betrayal of what Final Fantasy was.

@mazzel I just have a hard time looking upon TotK’s numerous gameplay mechanics, interacting with each other and the physics engine largely without issue, as ‘gimmicks’. It’s a word too often used to disparage.

@arabiansanchez the building mechanics and motion controls. But I named it wrong, should have called it Mechanics. Gimmicks makes it immediately sound negative and it's not supposed to be that at all.

@ottoecamn The issue for FF fans is that FF16 as a single game is obviously an awesome game. But it's not a "classic" Final Fantasy in many regards according to the feedback. So yeah if you are looking for classic FF elementd then people feel betrayed.

That's actually something I really love about BotW and TotK. They are no classic Zelda Games, but they so many elements to make you feel at home

@mazzel that's true, but Botw and TotK still manage to feel like a zeld game, it feels like an evolution, FF16 doesn't do that, it doesn't evolve the final fantasy formula, it just ditches it and does something completely different, which appeals to a good amount of people, but also rubs some people the wrong way.

@ottoecamn yep, agree! after TotK I will tackle Xenoblade 3 and, if no other game crosses my way, will give FF16 a chance

@KaijuKaiser It's quite simple, it has basically lost every last ounce of identity that the Final Fantasy series had. It might be a great game, but it isn't Final Fantasy in anything but the title. As such, Square Enix cannot really leverage brand loyalty as much as they would like to and that's why they are not too happy with the sales. Final Fantasy basically had no real competition in the turn based RPG space, while now it has competition by basically every single open world action game which is the vast majority of AAA games. This makes me worried about the future of this franchise as well as its relevance.

@KaijuKaiser Either way, that doesn't fix the identity crisis of the series. It is simply not unique anymore, there are other series that are incredibly similar to XVI. For me FF being turn based with a party of heroes was the template. I thought for all its faults, FF7 Remake had a very good take on that, XVI is just not really FF, other than in title.

@mazzel Xenoblade 3 is a really great game. personally, I like Xenoblade 2 more (I felt the story in 3 left a little bit to be desired towards the end, though Future Redeemed did, well... redeem the few issues I had with it). Anyway, have a good time with it!

@KaijuKaiser I mean, yes, with any big IP, it means different things to different people. For me there is no FF without turn based combat and a party of heroes. For others just having Chocobos and Moogles is enough. It depends on what you like about the franchise.