Popular Switch Piracy Subreddit Promoting Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Downloads Banned

I am anti-piracy, but I would love to play a modded version of the game with actual dungeons.

"r/NewSuperYuzuBrosPiracy" haha

I just shake my head to see the uncontrollable desire of that zelda game and moreover the desire to play in modded pirated games. 🙄
Such a disgusting behaviour.

So what’s next? “NewNewYuzuPiracy” or “SuperNewYuzuPiracy”?

This kind of content needs to be banned!
The people trying hard to have the official product and during the life of the console there are people emulating and hack the console to piracy.

Yeah the subreddit is obviously gonna get banned but when ever I see the word/name “yuzu” my brain immediately thinks of blue archive because a character has that name. (I have blue archive brain rot. PLEASE HELP!!!)

What!? Why was it banned? I follow other subreddits about piracy(for the kicks) and they seem to be doing fine. I guess sharing the links instead of just referring to page may have been what cause the ban.

The emulation part is fine, the piracy part is where the problem is, and probably what got them banned.

overemphasizing the emulation part, this was specifically a pro piracy download the game one thats at issue, good riddens to em for that

Reddit is just a terrible idea with all their moderators, and because it all gets indexed to Google. Telegram is a better choice for game preservation.

That's not really shocking. there is a reason it was the "new" one. it'll be back.

Personally I think piracy is dumb. My switch is jailbroken and I do dump my owned games to play on PC with mods and better fps and graphics. You truly can't beat botw or totk at 4k 60fps, but you still support the game by buying it and the hardware and do your own dumps.

“I hate corporations but want to consume their products for free” entitlement and basement morals on display.

Nintendo isn't watching, so no need to hop on a high horse and decry piracy. I'm not condoning it, but geez, who hasn't as a kid checked out a CD from the library and made a copy. You're pious, it's old. If you don't support it, don't do it, it's not rocket science.
That said, I bought TOTK legit, but it's a perpetual bummer that modern Nintendo titles come from such underpowered consoles that they can be pirated and emulated so easily. That doesn't mean Nintendo had it coming, but geez, Nintendo, more powerful hardware would solve this problem each and every time

We did it Reddit

Trying to slay that hydra again? Yep, it sprouted two heads now.

Deddit is circling the drain as is, come July 1st it's going to be flushed anyway.

Nintendo going out of their way to ensure you cannot play their games at an appropriate framerate.

I don't condone the illegal distribution of current gen systems, only ones where there is no suitable alternatives. The 3ds for example, with Nintendo killing the online, I see as perfectly acceptable to promote back ups. Without sites and subreddits like this then those games would be lost to time. Sure Nintendo might give us a couple games in a few years but 50 games out of the hundreds released? Yeah you gotta put in more effort than that Nintendo.

There is nothing bad in piracy if you play in modded version or can't get a game legally in your region.

No idea what the headline means xxx

I paid my 70 rupees. No regrets. 😊

Pirating a game you really want to play is just dumb. If everyone did that, game makers would have no need or desire to make any more.

As for the argument “I wanted to play at 60fps”, zelda has absolutely zero need to play it at 60fps, it wouldn’t improve it from a gameplay point of view, in the slightest.

@Cronodoug,

How can you stop it though?, this is just like movies, the vast majority will simply pay to go to the cinema, or pay for the stream/download.... then there will be people who pirate, there will be lots of torrent/download sites offering this.. policing it all is an impossible nightmare.

We are not here to judge what others do, just police are own actions etc etc.

@ATaco,

Not sure of the distinction between the two, surely IP theft is the same for existing or older games, as Nintendo has no legal obligation to make everything available to buy or download.

If it's not available then tough, do without it. If you personally believe piracy is wrong, then it's wrong on every level, with no exceptions, or you in effect contradict your initial argument.

I am not here to demonize either way, my stance is people will do what they want, and calling out a certain group with very little context or nuance is wrong imho.

I love paying full price for a game and then watching tool bags playing said game for free, and openly bragging about it on Reddit, no less. I'm fine with pirating dead consoles, but come on. I'm not a huge fan of defending big companies, but this crap is straight up theft.

@Clammy,

That's the point though, the vast majority will simply buy the game, this game could sell 30 million of so copies, what percentage is it losing to piracy?.

@sleepinglion I mean, feeling you need to point out that you bought a legit copy of ToTK says a lot about the current situation. And then calling people pious because they don't like stealing is a bit much if you don't mind me saying. Yes, as you say, many of us have been down that road ourselves - especial when younger - but I think we all know, at the back of our minds, it's still not exactly a good thing to do, and I think it's ok to acknowledge that - for ourselves - not judging others. I think checking we are not stepping outside our own set boundaries just makes us feel a bit better about ourselves. If that's pious so be it.

But then blaming the state of Nintendo's hardware as the reason!? That's just one of many excuses people might give themselves. Emulation has come on in ways nobody expected in the last, say 7 years or so. If Nintendo hardware isn't good enough for people, just put your Switch in a drawer, and jump ship until Nintendo's new console shows up.

@johnvboy : but what if those 30 million all decided to pirate too? Just ask Sega what happens then…

@Clammy,

It's not going to happen though, most will buy legally, the ones who do not were never going to do so in the first place, so no revenue lost.

Sega is a totally different scenario to Nintendo, and was forced out as Sony and Microsoft came in, but have not gone out of business, they have simply changed their business, and abandoned console manufacturing, they still make software, perhaps they are better off for doing this.

@brunojenso I did like the "it's not my fault it's Nintendo who make me do it"

Some paper thin justification there.

Piracy is wrong. You're not entitled to everything just because you want it. It's up to whoever holds the IP/copyright. Life's tough sometimes and you can't always get what you want.

@Jacket_p,

Very true, and there should be no distinction between old and current games, if you have this view... to many suggesting one is justified and one is not on here, much prefer a less ambiguous stance on all this.

@brunojenso I wanted to point out that I both support purchasing the real thing and don't have a problem with pirates. I don't have to jump around with pom-poms for them, but I don't judge them

@Ryu_Niiyama I mean the best way of rubbing it in the corporations is not giving them your money, so it checks out

@AnVold with not being able to get it legally, there are various cases. Cases like the occupied territory of Western Taiwan, or the anti human rights middle east, but then there is a case of russia. So I wouldn't say it's ok in all cases

70000 users! Ok, if half of those is a missed sale of a Switch and a copy of the game, that's like............
.....erm...

...loads of £££.

@Aurumonado Ah, but only if Nintendo allowed mods for their games, or programmed them in such a way where it was not only possible, but also allowed. Mods can definitely increase the lifespan of a game, add replay value, and go beyond the vision of what the original developers came up with.

Just look at Skyrim, for example: there are so many mods that significantly expand the game, with new regions, dungeons, characters, and questlines. And then there's the more cosmetic ones that improve the graphics, change character models, and such. And Bethesda not only allows it, it encourages it.

So I do wish Nintendo would be more open to user-generated mods in the future. I mean, they can still control which mods are allowed (so nothing too offensive or of an... "adult" nature), but they shouldn't be as reluctant to embrace this in the future as they are now, if you ask me.

@GrailUK,

Would they have bought the game in the first place though, and 70,000 is a drop in the ocean compared to the potential 25--30 million pieces of software this could sell, I think it sold around 10 million in the first three days, not sure why some are suggesting pirates are going to kill this games sales.

A lot of what if's being thrown around as usual.

@Jacket_p Yeah, tbh I greatly dislike EA ruining series and buying up beloved developmentstudios and running them into the ground, that I haven't bought or played their games since 2010s C&C4. But that doesn't mean I pirate them I just avoid them entirely, in fact it'd undermine my grievances with them if I still went and played them.

There's enough options out there that if you disagree with one companies actions. There's others you can support and no need for piracy.

Meh, there are other places to go.

Pretty sure a lot of subreddits deal with the subject in general. But I reckon it's a mere coincidence to see the banhammer land on one with a current gen platform emulator name, the word "new" AND the word "piracy" in the title.

@sleepinglion cool beans buddy.

@johnvboy Oh, you missed the point. It's not about hurting it's sales (I'm sure Zelda will do just fine), it's about lost sales. Slightly different. I mean, ok, it's a drop in the ocean, but you seriously telling me if it was you selling it, you wouldn't be bothered about a sale worth (total guess - very conservative) over 2 million quid? Lol, of course you would. Bonkers folk think it outlandish that they are. One could argue the folk might not have bought one either way...but that doesn't make it any less dubious.

At least we know why we paid an extra £10 for the game now.

@johnvboy ah yes. Sarcastic Dave says, “ I’m sure the pirates would never play any games ever if they were unable to pirate them…”

@ComfyAko so where it's ok and where is not ok? If you live in this territories you still can buy physical copies thru AliExpress or parallel import. I prefer to get a physical copy aniway, piracy is the last resort for me (for games like Splatterhouse for PS3/Xbox360 that extremely rare). But I can understand people, who don't want to pay more for parallel import or waiting 2-4 weeks for their game from China and use piracy. If developers banned a whole region and refused to take any money from there, then it's totally ok.

@Clammy,

You stated if all the 30 million potential TOTK sales pirated the game, which is ludicrous.

Most pirating this are doing so because they want a better experience on their P.C, perhaps a mofded version that has better lighting and textures, and runs at 60 fps...

Not saying this is right to do, or demonizing anyone that does this, but to suggest these people are regular Switch owners, and would buy this game if they could not do this, is just pure lunacy.

@GrailUK,

Not sure how Nintendo or I would feel about this, the game is going to be insanely successful and still make them a lot of money.

Still not convinced that most of these pirating the game, would buy it if they could not get it that way.... or that they even own a Switch in the first place.

@JohnnyMind,

They never look at the bigger picture, or see any context or nuance to any of this, then you get the people who are fine with legacy games being emulated, but then it's not O.K if it's a current game.

Some will see it as theft pure and simple, but of course things are very relative, for example somebody could steal from a beggar, and we would all rightly be up in arms about this. But if somebody stole from a bank, and institution with billions, who for years had ripped people off, and will be supporting many not very ethical things in the world etc etc... then our opinion of the act may alter a little. But it still remains at it's very core, the exact same thing, only the perceived victims have changed.

Some always assume a pirate buys nothing legitimate, which I doubt is the case in reality.

Didn’t the game leaked 1-2 weeks earlier? Did it hurt any revenue for nintendo? People who didn’t had money will not have bought in the first place. Those who ban this kind of things will not improve sales. It’s rather silly.

@Greatluigi stop blue archive brain rotting. Join me in project sekai brainrotting instead

I want to state before posting that I don't agree with most of N's ways to tackle mods/fangames and similar.
@AstroTheGamosian thing is that Nintendo games are just available in their consoles and modding them means you are dumping the game and modifying it, which can be automatically rated as piracy, and the only way this could be solved is Nintendo releasing its games for PC, which I see almost impossible right now.
I'd love myself being able to play better versions of the game in any kind of allowed way, and I'd put my feet in making fangames/mods for some Nintendo games, but sadly I can see how that could end.

Piracy feeds babies!

@AnVold It's ok when it's oppressive pseudogovernment (middle east) or a terrorist organization (CCP) that is a literal threat when buying or owning goods such as certain culture property. Imagine how horrible it would be if you lived in HongKong, Tibet or in Saudi Arabia/UAE, and then add the inability to buy something you like to rub it in.

It's not ok, however, if the game developer doesn't distribute to your country because they don't like you supporting an oppressive pseudogovernment, if you are a russian or a continental taiwanese.

My empathy is as vast as a sea, but even the seas have shores as their boundaries

@johnvboy Lol, I can assure you Nintendo are bothered hahaha

@GrailUK,

Not sure they are all that bothered, as it's still a pretty small problem in the global scheme of things, the Switch and it's software are doing fine.

This is more of a symbolic move than anything else.

@johnvboy We better start giving their ninjas their P45s I mean, I'm not bothered. Doesn't affect me any

@GrailUK,

I think getting annoyed, at somebody pirating a game I have personally bought, is a wasted exercise, and I have better things to do.

We will of course both agree that it is wrong, but I just can't find the energy to demonize people for such practices.

Nice interaction with you, as usual you are one of the more level headed posters on here.

@Ironcore
Emulation isn't illegal. You can still get the game running on Yuzu if you go through the entire dumping process yourself.

@johnvboy You too

@AnVold
The former isn't true. Piracy is bad if you're looking to mod a game, simply because... you could just dump the game yourself and legally play it that way.

The latter is true though. There are regions out there that Nintendo pretty much ignores, and as a result all Nintendo products are sold at inflated prices and/or they are delayed.

@johnvboy
I see, I don't exactly agree with your perspective on it because I disagree on the harm to IP theft that occurs when playing old games (if anything having access to them only strengthens an IP as more people are able to experience said games) but you're right in that Nintendo has no obligation to make available their older games. I'm sure if they could they'd go after the ebay sellers as well. They're Nintendo's property and if we're good maybe they'll give us a GameCube game or two in the future.

@ATaco,

I have little issue with any of it, if people want to pirate new or old games then it's up to them, I just do not see the distinction some are making about new or legacy games.

We will get GameCube games on the Nintendo online service, when Nintendo decided the time is right, we have no divine right to them, the service has never been advertised as including them.... it's just a wish list for fans.

@johnvboy
Yes that's fair, it seems you have a very pragmatic way of going about things so I can't exactly find fault with that. I just always think about an old Gabe Newell quote whenever it comes to piracy.

"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates."

But as you've said before, Nintendo is under no obligation to do any of that. At the end of the day it's all their property and we get the privilege to experience it sometimes.

@ATaco,

You could give everybody exactly what they wanted, and there would still be pirates.

Look at movies, you can pretty much stream most movies as soon as they hit the cinema, or a very short time after, the rentals are not prohibitively expensive, and you can pick up DVD's for cents, and Blu-ray discs for not much more.

All of this and there are still loads of torrent sites....

Why does Kotaku support this stuff?

I'm curious what you guys who are against pirating think about buying second hand.

In both instances the Dev/Publisher gets non of the money from the second sale onwards. In terms of lost revenue, how is that different to someone accessing a rom of a game?

I only ever buy Nintendo products second hand (apart from the N64 controllers which I impulse bought and then sold both as I was offered more than double what I paid), explicitly to stop my money going to Nintendo

I play all my switch games on the phone. Stable fps and crisper graphics. And yes, I buy all my games.

@ModdedInkling Emulation is illegal if the emulator has copies of official decryption keys.

@JohnnyMind come on, If you're routinely pirating brand new games you're literally not a prospective customer.

Like I've emulated NES and SNES Fire Emblem games during the mid 2000s as a young teen but at that point already bought Blazing Sword, Sacred Stones and Path of Radiance, and wanted more, if they were availableI would have saved up pocket money for them. And I've bought every one going up to Engage.

I think it's a vastly different kettle of fish pirating Switch games as they come out. If you're pirating TOTK as it came out, or worse before its release at what point does a person like that pirating new games stop and become a paying customer? Because its not really a pattern of behaviour that would point to them ever supporting the games they want to play.

Oh boy, can't wait for people to somehow get mad about this.

Movies and TV are pirated all the time, it's how those forms of entertainment are primarily consumed for many, many people. So this really isn't a big deal as far as I'm concerned.

@sleepinglion eh for me it’s the vocal entitlement some pirates display. Worse is when they think of themselves as some type of do-gooder, taking a morale stance against evil Nintendo.

It’s like at least be honest with yourself

@ComfyAko I don't think that it's right to compare ISIS and ruling party of People's Republic of China - permanent member of the United Nations Security Council.
I understand how it horrible, but your forget about censorship too. Many games was banned or changed in Germany and in Australia, for example. I think that piracy is ok in this case too.

If the game developer doesn't like my country, my language, my nationality or my political views then they not deserved any money. I'll never pay for their products again and if I'll be interested in their future games I just gonna pirate it even if I can buy it, because a modern nazism and discrimination can't be supported in modern civilized society.
And who is continental taiwanese? You mean chinese people? I can't accept their discrimination or discrimination of russian people.
More of it, Taiwan is a pseudogovernment by itself, because the most members of the UN recognize it as part of People's Republic of China.

As obsessed as I am with TotK it feels like ideas for Zelda articles are being drawn out of a hat at this point

@sanderev And as far as we know, Yuzu hasn't broken any of those laws. Only Dolphin has and they were finally caught.

Wow, people are really passionate about a giant corporation that doesn't know they exist fighting pirates who also don't know they exist.

@Bluelink45 I don’t think I have enough storage on my phone but thanks for the offer. 😄 P.S did you know they did a collaboration with hatsune miku?

I understand when people use the excuse of "video game preservation" for older retro games that are not as accessible or available anymore, but when used for emulating modern consoles still in production and games still being fully accessible and available that's a legal line being crossed right there, is straight up piracy and fully inexcusable.

@Aurumonado tears of kingdom does have actual dungeons.

Good. That sub was stuffed with crybaby freeloaders who didn't want to support modders for hard work and certainly didn't give a toss about game preservation. Maybe they can go get jobs or grow up now.

@JohnnyMind,

Perfect example of context and nuance within this debate, and pretty sure there are people who both buy and pirate games.

I am very into my movies, and have bought massive collections on VHS, Laser Disc (very expensive), DVD, and currently Blu-ray/4K Blu-ray, I would shudder to think of the amount of money I have spent on these various formats over the years...I have also downloaded some pretty awesome movie torrents, and the quality is superb, so pirates are not always purely downloading everything for free.....

https://www.blu-ray.com/community/gallery.php?member=jonmoz

@AnVold Actually, I didn't even mean ISIS, I meant the governments of UAE, Saudi Arabia, Oman, etc. I won't even say how much I hate murdering innocent people in the name of whatever.

As for "People's Republic of China - permanent member of the United Nations Security Council." this is actually a mistake that many people make. Republic of China (commonly known as Taiwan) is the permanent memeber of the UNSC. The 1971 act is obviously invalid. The People's Republic of China actually fits the definition of a terrorist group. "Terrorisem - calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective." Directly occupying territory of a country and using their own armed forces pretending to be police in order to force their objectives upon the occupied territory citizens is a grand example.

Sure, in case of censorship, it's ok.

"If the game developer doesn't like my country, my language, my nationality or my political views then they not deserved any money." you misunderstood my point. It's actually the other way around. If a game developer stops selling his work in a country because he doesn't want to make evil people happy, it's his decision and if people from this country steal their work, it's particularly scummy. Because, as you said yourself, "modern nazism and discrimination can't be supported in modern civilized society."

"And who is continental taiwanese? You mean chinese people? I can't accept their discrimination or discrimination of russian people." - what about not supporting nazism and discrimination? Both have active genocide projects on their hands, CCP even has their own concentration camps, and their societies actively support their dictators. If it were up to me, I'd wall them off from the rest of the world and let them be, as I prefer peaceful approach.

"More of it, Taiwan is a pseudogovernment by itself, because the most members of the UN recognize it as part of People's Republic of China." I already explained that part.

There is nothing wrong with good ol' emulation.

@Ironcore Nintendo had nothing to do with it. It was all Reddit policy.

People will always want to pirate Nintendo stuff - console power has very little to do with it though it admittedly makes emulation more feasible since emulation requires a lot of power.

I'm 100% confident that even if Nintendo releases a console that's the most powerful one in the generation, people will STILL pirate Nintendo games from that console as soon as they can.

Good. There is no good excuse for pirating current format games.

@ComfyAko that means that you also hate government of US because it's killed people in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria in the name democracy, right?

About People's Republic of China:
"this is actually a mistake that many people make"

It's not a mistake, it's just acceptance of reality. CCP controlled a whole China except a few small islands. It's only natural that it tool a Taiwan place.

"Republic of China (commonly known as Taiwan) is the permanent memeber of the UNSC."
Already not.

"The 1971 act is obviously invalid."
Maybe in different reality.

"The People's Republic of China actually fits the definition of a terrorist group"
US government fits definition of a terrorist group too. More of it, they created and sponsored a few middle east terrorist groups like Taliban, Al-Qaeda and ISIS.

"Directly occupying territory of a country and using their own armed forces pretending to be police in order to force their objectives upon the occupied territory citizens is a grand example."
Do you think that US and Israel gamers must be banned from games because their countries occupied a territory of Syria and Palestine?

About develorer's nazism:
"you misunderstood my point. It's actually the other way around. If a game developer stops selling his work in a country because he doesn't want to make evil people happy"
I want to understand your point. But wait...are you just called a more then 1,5 billion people "evil"? It t's true then...whoa! It may be the biggest act of discrimination in history! That's horrible!

> it's his decision and if people from this country steal their work, it's particularly scummy.
I see nothing scummy in making a neo-nazi developers suffer for their hate and discrimination. Their games must be pirated and put on torrent trackers, that people from a whole world may get their games for free and don't pay money to these *****. Moreover, that studios must be branded as "russophobic" and "chinesephobic" for their entire live. That the price that nazis companies must pay for their hate to other nations.

" what about not supporting nazism and discrimination?"
Russia is a capitalist country and China have a mixed communist-capitalist system. There is no nazism and discrimination. Or you just believe in hate that "talking heads" told you from TV?

"Both have active genocide projects on their hands"
Well...I'm even curious, what genocide project Russia have?

"CCP even has their own concentration camps, and their societies actively support their dictators."
But it's their democratic choice. You should accept it, isn't it?

"If it were up to me, I'd wall them off from the rest of the world and let them be, as I prefer peaceful approach."
And what'll happen then? That's will be the biggest catastrophe for entire world because it needs Russian and Arabian resources, and Chinese production. Allmost all things produced in China. The rest of the world don't want to be completely isolated from Russia and China. Even it's small part that known as The West.
But why you don't start with yourself then? If you hate China so much, then you should to try to refuse from their products. But I don't think that you can do it, because chinese products is literally everywhere and it can't be replaced.

"I already explained that part."
No, you explained only your opinion and your wishes. And I explained the reality.

@JohnnyMind,

Thank you, and once again for the reasonable dialogue, makes quite a change on here.

@AnVold Lost interest in talking to you, I was wondering why you act like a 5 year old and then I saw why.

Actually if anybody else wants to see a response, ask me, I got it ready but it's a bit of a lengthy, much more so than what our little guy could comprehend

@johnvboy : we know what happens if most users pirate games.. it happened to Dreamcast.

As for “everyone pirating it” being ludicrous? Why?

And besides, you only need to look at the horrific modern pop music scene to know what happens when the majority of people pirate…

@ComfyAko so you are really a type of guy who thought, that he knows anything, but knows nothing in reality. Do you really think that all UN members so stupid and just let China to take a Taiwan's place in UNSC even if it's illegal?

"me value whatever you say less"
Then just answer me how I can value your words after you actually called a chinese people a "continental taiwanese". That was the most unrealistic thing that I ever heard.

"Lost interest in talking to you, I was wondering why you act like a 5 year old and then I saw why."
I don't care of it because I'm here only for having discussion about games. I don't wanna to discuss about politics. Especially with guy who poisoned with propaganda and have a nazi views.
So what you gonna do now? Wanna measure my skull? Or you was so scared, that you changed your answer? And are you going to make more that funny baby crying noises? it suited you well.

@Clammy,

Because it's totally ludicrous, most of the masses can't be bothered or simply do not know how to pirate stuff, and you are stretching suggesting the Dreamcast has anything to do with all this.

If the pirating is so bad then why have Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft not all gone to the wall, a little piracy in the grand scheme of things will hardly be noticed... and it's too late now anyway.. VPN's have pretty much guaranteed that.

Music is another bad example, as peoples tastes change with time, and downloads are still selling in big numbers, but you still get piracy.

@Chibi_Manny well, you could say that every game can be rereleased with the current trends, so it's not unrealistic to say that emulating any game, however old it might be, is potentially harming a company's revenue. Let's be honest and reasonable, though, it's a completely different story if you're emulating because it's scarce, not becausr you dont feel like paying.

@sleepinglion Nintendo games get emulated so quickly because of the popularity of Nintendo games, not the specs of the console. That’s why Nintendo consoles always get emulated first, because of desire. This has been the case since the very beginning. That’s why Sega, PlayStation, Xbox consoles etc were always an afterthought in emulation. They got done AFTER the Nintendo console in most cases. This is why generally Nintendo emulation was traditionally more comprehensive, smooth and stable and other emulation wasn’t.

The only thing to match that desire in emulation was arcade back in the day. Arcade emulation was also highly desired.

When emulation became a thing, they didn’t say “oh ****, I want to play Master System games!”, they said “****, I want to play NES!”

@MysticalOS You can't "jailbreak" a console (that's for iphones), you 'mod' them.

I can’t defend pirating a game like this within such a short time of release.
I have no issue with people making mods for it down the line, and considering how many modding communities are still going out there, I don’t think the Nintendo ninjas are toooooooo sensitive about it, at least not after the game has had time on the market. (I mean, they can be. But they usually seems to focus on when people are making money from it)

But yeah, pirated copies with the first couple of months? Say what you will about Nintendo ninjas and whatnot, I can’t fault it being taken down

The emotional reaction to the piracy was likely more emotion that the game itself evokes

So many of the same tired excuses from pirates disguised as preservationists in the comments.
Just admit you're too cheap to pay $70 to the people who created it and I'd have a tiny bit more respect for you.

@Coalescence You're shocked about people on a piracy sub not wanting to support peoples work?

they were only putting the totk dlc at is right price

I had to roll my eyes at this. The title says 'piracy', so that is that. It's wrong and illegal.

What is a Pirate’s favourite letter?

@Gerald ARRRRRR! ))

@ComfyAko emulating due to scarcity I do understand, however, emulating because a physical copy of the game is scarce is still immoral piracy when the games are all available 24/7 digitally in the eShop. The is no scarcity for digital games unless it has been pulled, is physical
only, or has been discontinued from being sold digitally on the eShop.

These criminal idiots who think they can play Switch games for "free" instead they got a malevolent program (Yozu, Yozu wathever they call that trash) in their PCs, mining in the background and steal data from them.

I say well deserve and good riddance.

@Chibi_Manny yes of course, if a game is on a console store, it's wrong to pirate it.

I was referring to things like Rule of Rose, or Sailor Moon Snes fighting game.

It's wrong to download a game because you don't feel like paying for it, and it's extremely wrong to download a game because you can't buy it because your country is paying the consequences of its actions.

@Chaotic_Neutral “I want to play Nintendo games but refuse to give them my money.” Such edge. Medal is in the post son.

More whiny children complaining about game preservation even though the game is a month old and sold a ton of copies

@WiltonRoots no edge, I supported them throught the wii-U era only for them to try and charge me again to access my game library on new hardware.
After buying the forst switch and getting stung, I decided to never give them any of my money again which I haven't - 3 additional Switches and all of my Nintendo exclusive software has been second hand.
I would rather support a company that looks after its customer base.

@AstroTheGamosian Skyrim Skyrim Skyrim. I only ever hear Skyrim when it comes to "why doesn't Nintendo aDd mOdS to their games". It'd be nice, but please. It fits in the nature with Skyrim being re-released once or twice a year. This same example is recycled once or twice a month. But what can I expect? Nintendo fans apperantly can only stick with one example and never diversify, just like how they believe there are only two relevant Nintendo racing games (Mario Kart and F-Zero), while ignoring the other ones all the time (Excite series and Wave Race)

Does anyone have any other example that ISN'T Skyrim? I just want to see. And before you say Minecraft, it has to be OFFICIAL examples.

This is not about individual people pirating games, but about shutting down easy to access hubs, which are incredibly easy to find on Reddit or simply by Googling. Piracy will never completely be defeated, but reducing its visibility and making it less accessible is a good thing.

@InTree Well, personally, I wish Nintendo would increase the replay value of the Zelda series, an issue that I feel plagues the franchise. Basically, if I complete a Zelda game, why is there any reason for me to play it again?

That's why I think Nintendo should introduce regular limited-time events into the franchise, similar to the Splatfests in Splatoon, or the events in Genshin Impact (if you want to go the fantasy route).

And in terms of Genshin Impact's events, it also has the virtue of expanding upon the lore of the game's world and characters (especially the flagship events), something that the Zelda series could also do if Nintendo chose to do it.

That way, it would increase the replay value of a Zelda game, it give me a reason to play it again after I've done everything that I could possibly do in the game, and I could learn more about the world, the characters, and the lore.

@Chaotic_Neutral I don't quite understand, did you sell your Wii U? Did it break? I saw a few ports made it onto Switch but I personally have only picked up two on the cheap but they run and play better than their Wii U originals. I also don't understand why if you felt so stung you keep going back to them, albeit indirectly? That's a lot of Switches...

@Chaotic_Neutral NGL the things you say feel very contradictory in nature. While not wanting to support Nintendo you have managed to buy more switches than the average user. You want to play their games but won't give them money to... keep making those games? Idk the moment i decided i didn't want to support Blizzard anymore i stopped buying their games, i would feel silly buying a second hand copy of Diablo 4 pretending i'm taking a stance.

@Nico85 @WiltonRoots the wii-U broke and I lost £100's worth of digital games and the digital library didn't carry across to Switch like it does on Xbox or PS5.

The reason I have so many switches is that I traded my original for a Lite and then had to buy a second Lite so the wife could play Animal Crossing (because Nintendo decided to lock it to 1 user per console).
I bought the Oled on impulse from CEX after seeing it in store, no idea why really as I've hardly played on it.
I suppose that's the joys of Bi-Polar. I don't think straight when I'm manic and ridiculously overspend, which is why I also have a Series X, PS5, MetaQuest 2 and a gaming laptop. It's also why my comments may contradict as my mind changes as quickly as my moods sorry.

@Chaotic_Neutral hopefully they’ll have learned from their mistakes. I think being able to access your switch gaming library from a switch 2 will be fundamental for its success

I’m all for emulation, just so long as I own a copy of the game. I own the Wii U copy of BOTW and much prefer to play it in a vastly superior state using the CEMU emulator. I will do the same for Tears of the Kingdom via one of the emulators once I purchase a copy in the future.

@Nico85 I'm not to sure.
when you look at the money MK8 has generated, I genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see a MK8 super deluxe on the next system - where it comes bundled with the DLC tracks at full retail.
Nintendo isn't a fan of giving stuff away, we haven't even had a "Selects" range of discounted games on Switch with them opting to keep their legacy games full priced.

@Chaotic_Neutral thanks for clearing that up, yeah that would be a bummer your Wii U dying on you.

@GrailUK If someone stole 20k from me and I was a billionaire still raking in millions in sales I would not care. This is the same idea. If its barely a pinprick in the sales its not morally wrong to pirate from them end of story. Its all about how it affects the victim. In this case it does virtually NOTHING to nintendo.

@thedarkestdie If you make the amount taken smaller to accentuate your arguement, it weakens it! 20K hahahah.

@GrailUK That makes no sense. My point still stands Nintendo won't feel piracy if they didn't go hunting for it. Look at how many sales they made on TOK. Why waste resources on piracy hunting when it doesn't hurt them to ignore it?