New Advance Wars Switch Overview Trailer Introduces The Basics Of Battle

Dual Strike DLC, Dual Strike DLC, Dual Strike DLC....TwT
(Days of Ruin, too, I guess. I dunno. lol)

@Joeynator3000 - Days of Ruin had such a different system, I do not think it'd pass very well for DLC. A whole nother game would a delight, but this game has to blow up in sales.

And this close to Zelda... It probably won't.

Again, I think this game will massively underperform in sales. Between the art-style and $60 price, I think many players will give this a pass. And let's not forget; this isn't getting released in Japan - that's a huge red flag if you ask me. Even Balan Wonderworld managed to get that, smh.

Oh and WayForward, who you would think would be making tons of noise about this, hasn't done anything more than re-tweet Nintendo's tweets since the April release date was announced. It's like they're not even excited about this, and they developed it!

Nintendo, maybe you missed the notice but the war you delayed this game for is still going on...do you no longer care about offending people??

So, it looks like standard tactic games I have ever known like FF Tactics, Bomberman Wars, Yokai Watch Sangokushi, etc.
Btw, is there any healing skills to stay survive in battle?

I'm curious about it but it doesn't really seem like it's worth $60 to me. If I end up getting Tears of the Kingdom I might get it with the other voucher, but even then I'm weighing Return to Dream Land, Mario Strikers, and Pikmin as other options.

Nintendo really ramping up the marketing on this one, great to see.

I'm a big strategy and Tactics fan, and I love the original games. This looks bad. The polys in Return Fire on 3DO had more character. It looks like they opted to add some nice cutscenes to pull the heavy lifting and remind us what the Advance Wars aesthetic was. Also, I get that this is supposed to look like a tabletop game...but it doesn't? I just never feel the craft/materials thing Nintendo does, whether it's yarn, paper, or whatever Link's Awakening was supposed to be. It looks like a solid $30 eshop thing with an aesthetic gimmick that just doesn't work for me.

@Paraka Yeah it doesn't have to be the entire game itself, but units/characters from the games would be just fine.

@Lizuka Agreed, Reboot Camp should not have been $60. It indirectly causes people to compare it other full-priced Switch games. Should have been $50 like WarioWare or $40 like the Klonoa two-game collection.

Let’s face it: marketing a cartoon-style war game made by Nintendo during war time is complicated. That and releasing near Zelda… sales number will take a hit.
Day-1 here anyway.

WARGROOVE PRICES: all history - all countries
https://steamdb.info/app/607050/

Can you see?

This game is on sale EVERYTIME for $5,99 (US)
In my country i paid $3 on Steam.
On Switch I paid around $7 or $9 on sale, i don´t remember but i can see later and confirm.

All the games are more expensive on Switch because the Nintendo-Tax.

Ok.

Wargroove + Wargroove 2 will be, together around $20 - $29.

But...all we know that Advance Wars 1 + 2 will be $60 and...rarely....in years...$50.....

I replayed Advance Wars 1 and 2 on my GBA. I ´ve replayed Wargroove too. I´m playing now again.

Wargroove =

• more maps
• more game modes
• multiplayer coop in all game modes
• create maps and create all campaign, story and overworlds and share (infinite replay value)
• the commanders are on the table battling (in Advance Wars, not)
• much more diverse missions
• When you try to conquer an enemy city, the city attacks back, much more strategy layers here involving Citie´s attack/defense for you and the enemies (in Advance Wars, not)
• When you are adjacent to a conquered city, you can exchange money and life points from the city and transfer it to your unit, in Advance Wars you need to stay over the city, that is, the city only helps one unit at a time, in Wargroove 1 - 4 units at the same time.
• more characters (commanders, special powers) and FREE DLC (including new story, and new commanders, new powers)
• The design of the soldiers and vehicles completely changes according to the commander (in advance wars, the theme changes are small, it only changes the color of the dolls and small details compared to Wargroove)
• All soldiers and vehicles have critical hits in specifics conditions, with much more strategy layers (Advance Wars, Not)
• Chucklefish Ltd always improove the game. Nintendo (which must be a very small company), abandons its games, with few minor patches.

Wargroove is WAY BETTER than Advance Wars. Advance Wars is GREAT, but Wargroove is much more modern, superior gameplay, more content and CHEAPER.

CONCLUSION:

I´ll never pay $60 for this game.

When it's around $30, I buy it. Or buy used. If this game ever sells for around $30, I will never buy it. I got them for the GBA and it's basically the same game, the same maps, the same characters and the same solutions to beat the game.

Way overpriced and the art style chosen for these "remakes" is ugly as hell.
May eventually grab it pre owned if I see it cheap but not in any kind of rush to play these again.

Why does it often like people constantly ask for franchise revivals, and then when they actually get them, they're completely uninterested?

Not sure what the fuss is about here - the game looks perfectly fine, and certainly more polished than a cheap mobile game. And while a slightly cheaper price point would've been ideal, $60 for 2 remakes of very well-received strategy games (with Metascores of 92 and 89, respectively) is certainly a better deal than numerous other first-party Switch games, and you can even knock it down to $50 through the NSO digital vouchers. It is weird that it's not releasing in Japan as of now, but there's no obvious issue with the remakes and early previews are positive, so maybe Nintendo just expects it to underperform there, given the West has been where Advance Wars has sold better? Either way, I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is and actually support an IP revival without having played any other Advance Wars game, and I'd do the same for numerous other IPs that even slightly pique my interest, like F-Zero or Kid Icarus.

I was on the fence about getting this as I already have the originals and eShop downloads for the Wii U, but I’m more than happy to play through these missions again when in addition there is also the ability to play against someone else locally or online. Being able to create your own maps is a great addition too, so its replay value is there.

I managed to pre-order the game close to £30 so it’s well worth it in my book and being on the Switch with the clean graphical style, I’m looking forward to introducing my son to this.

I wish there were different skins or completely different art styles available. I am shocked by the lack of detail in graphics. Imagine a realistic look - I would be all over this game. Strange but true.

@marck13 not everything needs to look realistic and grim to be a good Game.

@Thief All Advance Wars games up until now got released late or not at all in Japan. What red flag exactly would this be? After all the positive previews and the originals being highly praised you think the game is bad because it's not yet releasing in Japan?
And why do you compare these two full remakes to the Klonoa remasters that btw are 40£ and 50€?

They got a "9.9" and "9", respectively, from IGN.

To add to the critical acclaim, some awards:

Advance Wars:
Best Handheld Game of the Year - D.I.C.E. Awards

Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising:
Best Strategy Game of the Year - British Academy Game Awards
Best Handheld/Mobile Game of the Year - British Academy Game Awards

@Joeynator3000 They had two years of delay on top to further polish and add to the game. All what's included in base game is all we're getting 'else it will look really scummy for them to hold back content to charge further that they well enough had time to implement.

No chance in Japanese eshop?

Anyone know if this has couch play like Wargroove?

@PikaPhantom

"Why does it often like people constantly ask for franchise revivals, and then when they actually get them, they're completely uninterested?"

What evidence do we have that these are the same people?

@SpoonySpoons It does, but only for 2 player mode. 3-4 person local requires multiple Switches

I will likely play it side by side with the original to see how the AI has changed/improved. I like the marketing.

For those complaining about the price, this remaster features things like online mode which the originals didn't have. This is the biggest question mark I have over this game, as Advance Wars could be a bit slow for multiple human players over the internet - I can see the possibility of abandoned games due to timeouts or opponents getting bored waiting for their opponent to make a move.

@Axecon that would be weird, in the original you could build custom maps with 4 armies, and pass the GBA around if I'm not mistaken. I even think you could do it in teams, but it's been a while... Some of it was available for single cartridge link-up. So cutting out such obviously easy multiplayer options seems like a very weird move, especially with the long delay.

@Uncle_Franklin I didn't say it was necessarily proven - it's just kind of how it feels sometimes. Like, people were clamoring for New Pokemon Snap for years, and then it released and, while doing better than basically any other Pokemon spinoff, it sold a fair amount less than the original. It's not always the case - Metroid's come back in full force on Switch and sold well (though Samus Returns got the ball rolling), but I have to wonder if the rumored Kid Icarus Uprising and F-Zero GX remasters would sell the way one might think given the demand for those games/series to return seems high. Or a remake of Golden Sun 1+2 or Chibi-Robo. Or even if they remade an EarthBound/Mother game. That sort of thing.

@JohnnyMind Yeah I could be mixing the different games up, played them all, and don't really remember of everything what was added when (except for units and terrain features and such, those I think I mostly remember). But it would make more sense to ADD it NOW than it would to take away options that so easily fit the system, when it's a complete remake.

@BTB20 The red flag is all Nintendo-owned IPs have released simultaneously on the Switch, Japanese release has never been delayed until now.

Very excited for this game personally. This and the Battle Network collection are my games of April. Definitely wanna try to beat Engage before it so I don’t get all Tactics gamed out hahaha.

@PikaPhantom - Well, I know I am getting it.

Same excuses saud about Reboot Camp can be said about Zelda and its 70 dollar price tag. But for some reason, everyone is justifying a price hike for Zelda, in spite of many recycled assets and landscapes, than a game with fully redesigned assets.

Zelda can wait for me, it will be around for YEARS. And since BotW was not all exciting, I don't think I trust paying MORE money for something that is already known to be less exciting.

@Joeynator3000 Funny enough I just picked up Dual Strike today.

@JohnnyMind Thats awesome, should make for a fun game night then.

@PikaPhantom

From what I have admittedly very briefly just read, Pokemon Snap sold around 3.6 million overall, whereas New Pokemon Snap sold more than 2 million outside of Japan alone as of August 2021 according to Nintendo Life.
According to another source, it sold four times as many physical copies as the original did on N64 (not long after release on Switch).

Can't seem to find total 2023 figures.

I personally loved the game.

@Uncle_Franklin Yeah, it certainly didn't do poorly (and I also thoroughly enjoyed my time with it), but I think at the very least, it demonstrates that bringing back older IP to a wider install base does not guarantee success on par with or better than the original game(s). Can't really estimate how many people didn't pick up the sequel after playing the original, as I'm sure many hadn't given it a go before buying New Snap (I was one of them), but at the very least, around a million people who played the original didn't get the sequel. Considering its cult classic status, I doubt that's 1 million people that didn't enjoy the original. Many factors would influence skipping it as well - but I still get the feeling that some people who were calling for a sequel, whether they touched the original or not, passed up on the game.

@Olmectron
Absolutely. And I agree it would be a different game then. I guess it’s just the artwork. I want to give it a try and hope I’ll be positively surprised.

@Thief I agree. It's one of these games that will go on a big sale after a month or so.

@PikaPhantom Hear! Hear! Well said.

I love Advance Wars and I'm definitely picking it up.
BUT...only supporting 2 players online is massively disappointing.

@beartown No Nintendo game goes on any kind of sale after a month.

@BTB20 oh I didn't know it was released by Nintendo, sorry. You are right then.

i have this funny thing where if i hear rumors about release for too long... then we wait a long time... and it gets delayed... then more rumors... eventually i lose interest and i dont even care if it comes out.

i know its just me, because it doesnt really make sense, but thats where im at with these. they lost me.

ill get em on sale, eventually. they really shouldve just put the OGs on NSO, TBH.

@JohnnyMind

id be all over a new advance wars game, dont get me wrong. its my mild but genuine enthusiasm over a couple games i played over a decade ago, coming out with arguably not better presentation, months and months after my peak of interest, that has waned.

unfortunately you are right, Nintendo has a habit of halfassing the marketing for a game, botching its messaging and release, observing the low sales, then deciding "welp, they dont care about X, and they never will!" and "animal crossing, pokemon, and splatoon, it is!"

At the moment, I have absolutely 0 interest in buying this game. They should have released this a year earlier.
Maybe at a later point, when it is really cheap. I'm absolutely stuffed with RPGs on Switch and I only buy a handful of them.

It looks kind of...chunky to me. Something about the art seems off and the little 3d models for the units actually look worse than the 2d sprites to me. Kind of a disappointment since I've been waiting for AW to come back...

Looking forward to this release!

@beartown Advance Wars is a Nintendo franchise.

Loved these games, and after Tactics Ogre Reborn, I'm all for many of these tactics games getting improvements and released asap! Final Fantasy Tactics remaster is going to be amazing when it finally releases.

3 simple reasons I’m skipping this even thou I’m a HUGE fan of this “saga”

1. Art style: If you have a keen eye and if you are fan of the original you KNOW what I mean. The art style for this just missed the mark.
2. Pricing: $60? I know Nintendo is greedy as hell but c’mon
3. Content: Not a single add-on/update/new content in the horizon

@ATaco It isn't just you. The 3D units are objectively worse than the original sprites. I was considering the title just for the online aspect but those cheap, generic models put me off completely. It looks like something that might be in Clash of Clans or some other hastily made junk. I am really surprised someone at nintendo signed off on those.

@Cashews it's just going to be a shame when Nintendo decides that the fans don't want more advance wars after they did everything in the power to make sure it flopped.

@ATaco Maybe you can't lose on this low effort event. It couldn't have cost much to put together. If you sell 200K copies of a game that barely cost anything to produce - you can't lose money. And you will make some people happy.

I didn't know the war in Europe was over. (Sarcasm)

I wish this came out last year.

I am a massive fan of the franchise, but like many of you, am not liking the art style. I am buying this game day one for 2 reasons: online play and hoping Nintendo will make another entry in the series. If they decide to not make another, at least I have the Wargroove series.