Mario Strikers: Battle League Update Adds Daisy, Shy Guy, And More

Not much imo and that's exactly what I expected sadly

this is like the third or fourth sports game on Switch where they don't release it finished and need to add "the rest of the game" later. why do they keep doing it this way.

That Daisy-lover on this site can come out of hiding, lol.

Watch people still complain.
Hey look guys, more content.
As for the Daisy announcement: time to plug in my earplugs because her voice is annoying.

FINALLY! It’s Daisy time.

And wait it jump back to 1st in the UK Charts next week because of Daisy. XD

@EarthboundBenjy Nintendo are following the as a service model. Like so many publishers these days.

@EarthboundBenjy

Probably to diminish resell-worth? Because if the servers go down a game like this might be a bit worthless with so much content lost.

@Henmii But on which purpose would Nintendo care about the price of the phyisical copy in like 20 years?

It is just history who will vanish with the servers, that's a shame

There isn't a single Mario sports game that I have played for more than 3 hours.

They just don't provide enough content for single players.

And here I am still just waiting for Nintendo to release ARMS again with their attached content post game...

God do I hate the New era of games, everything will be fixed later as long as you buy it now, maybe...

@FragRed

Games that follow a service model are usually free to play not full price.

@EarthboundBenjy They do it this way as it creates more hype/buzz in the later months. If they released this game complete, it would quickly become not talked about. This method makes the game more relevant for a longer period. (I'm not saying I agree or not, but this is the reason why Nintendo would do this)

I love that Nintendo keeps making Shy Guy the true neutral option, with his dice in Super Mario Party and his stats in Mario Strikers being so middle-of-the-road.

Seeing new arenas is also neat, but I wish they included gimmicks instead of being purely aesthetic.

Strikers is my favorite game of this year so far. Its just such a treat playing this game with others. Can’t wait to get to flex with Shy Guy.

Another music theme, single player modes ?

Can not wait to see Daisy's wonderful animation. The only good thing this game has going for it is the animation of the characters.

Played one or two weeks with my friends...with whom I couldn't play with online vs A.I. to train and then the game went dead for me, no one in my circle kept playing it.

Quite disappointed by it tbh, I think Mario Tennis Ace and Arms were way more entertaining and solid content-wise...we went backward with Striker

Great that they added Daisy along with Shy Guy. Could use more modes so hopefully that comes soon.

@RareFan this hype build around the animations in this game is particularly disappointing.

A very unsurprising update, I'm just glad people finally got their beloved Daisy.

I hate this B.S tactic Nintendo are doing purposely hold back half the games content and slowly drip feed it over 1 year stupidly thinking it keeps the player base engaged for a longer period of time, no it doesn't people quickly drop thr game or sell it because you gave them no content, tell them to wait an unknown amount of time for updates and when they finally arrive the are small and doesn't resolves the games problem, lack of content

That's it?

"More characters and stadiums are coming"
How about any gameplay modes to play them in besides "regular match" and "regular match but online"?

Too little too late for me. I'll pass on this update, I'll probably just wait until all the updates are rolled out before going back in. Two new characters, one new gear set, and one new stadium aren't nearly enough to fix the small amount of stuff in this game.

On a positive note, the new stuff DOES look nice and I'll certainly check it out once I eventually boot the game up again.

@EarthboundBenjy
Very Because, and very probably, constantly people demand new games soon (Very SOON, isn't it?), then, for a "better" result, and thanks of internet and update programming, a game may be developed very soon to satisfy that "insistent demand" and then, they are updated later to complete them, without the pressure that "There is no new game", or tell me if I'm wrong?

If people can't wait, then, this is the better answer, isn't it?

It doesn't please me to say, but waiting proved the right decision with this game. The question now is whether enough content is going to be added during the course of the year to warrant me buying it in the holiday sales. I think I'd need at least a 33% discount... might have to wait even longer for that.

I don't feel bad as I bought Aces and Golf day one, and honestly it feels like Nintendo didn't learn anything from them. I respect their decision to focus on multiplayer, but it has definitely cost them some sales.

Taken MUCH too long...most other players I know that bought it, traded it in or sold it by now. If they had dangled the carrot from day 1 with a clear date for the other items that would have been better.
Same with MK8D...no worries if you can't give the wave 2 right now...but at least please tell us when to expect it....

Fair enough, but would prefer additional game modes as it's so barebones.
Even after playing 2-3 rounds with friends in local multiplayer we all zone out and switch to something else.

Would be cool too if the stadiums weren't just different skins but have theme specific on pitch obstacles etc.
I swear the Wii game had that?
And perhaps different size pitches? The ones in Battle League feel so close and tight.

Awesome how the new stadium is desert based, referencing Daisy's Kingdom, Sarasaland. Nice to have you back, Daisy.

@SakuraHaruka
I see you point but the 'better' answer is mario tennis ace or Super smash that released, with the same price, but had WAY more multiplayer content/capabilities day one...and a story mode. Those games still received a lot of updates.

Striker had very little content day one, and still does tbh. I believe many already stopped playing the game, it's a missed opportunity.

People CAN wait. They, Nintendo, decided to reveal strikers in time for a June release

What are we thinking for the next update? Realistically? Bowser Jr. and a Koopa is my bet.

@PeteW this has been the biggest reason I can't get into the Strikers games. They're a bit dry bones, in general.

Okay, I just wanted to use that pun...

I’m waiting till it’s fully updated aka made whole again!

@EarthboundBenjy the worst part about it is that once the game is complete, the online is practically dead. Takes me like five minutes to find a match on Mario Tennis Aces.

Nintendo sports games peaked with Mario Golf World Tour.

Oh nice to see this game is coming along! Can't wait for it to be finished and released, and totally in that order!

Can't say this is my preferred release model, but it does make a lot of sense from both a business and consumer perspective to release content updates after launch for high-profile multiplayer releases (as far as I am aware, Mario Kart and Mario Party are the only two that didn't have significant content updates after launch). I wonder though, if the game did launch with everything these updates will bring and then no updates after, will the sales be more significant? In my opinion, its hard to say. Aces, Golf, and New Horizons are already, or on the way, to being the best selling games in their respective franchises so clearly this model isn't hurting Nintendo in the slightest. Then again, Super Mario Party became the best selling game in its franchise and had the equivalent of the color beige for content compared to something like Mario Party 2's rainbow. So compared to that I would easily take this. Just don't start charging for it Nintendo. This all coming from a guy that wouldn't have played the game anyway, so no lost sale here.

Edit: Also Daisy is the best Mario Princess.

One one hand, it's a bummer that Nintendo keeps doing this, releasing the game incomplete, missing many features and characters we want, and finishes the game later with updates.

But at least Nintendo is giving us the updates for free, and the game at launch is playable, unlike those Ubisoft and Bethesda games that are released full of glitches and early buyers are beta-testers.

@Henmii Good to see that people are finally realizing this.

Physical media enthusiasts love talking about how digital purchases are not really yours, you can only own your games if you buy physical, but nowadays, physical purchases are just fancy digital purchases, you still need to make a download to play the good or complete version of a game, get DLC, play online, or just play at all, there are physical games where without internet and servers, you only have a paperweight.

My favourite thing of this article was the reminder that Nintendolife gave this forgetful game a 9/10 yet love to pretend they are not bias despite getting early playtime with the game. Damn it they should have had more time to realize how forgetable this experience was going to be.

This should have been there at launch -_-

Yep, just what I expected. Idk what Nintendo has it with their sports games but they really are trying to make them a sudo live service, but want to have full releases, but also kinda want to be like most generic triple a sports releases so they keep doing this free update model for all of them and I will admit that it's tiring, even if Strikers is the one probably gets the most positive benefit since the previous Strikers weren't having a lot of content either glad to finally see Daisy come back though along with Shy Guy and their art looks great as always

I dont exactly hate this approach, and I get why Nintendo does it (it ideally keeps people coming back)... but man, Daisy of any character should've been in from the get-go.

I dont think she's missed a party or sports game since Mario Tennis 64, so bringing her late to the party feels more frustrating than exciting.

LOL that's perfect. Everyone was complaining Daisy was missing!

Maybe they could waited till now to release it. I mean, it still lack of modes, but a couple of characters (Daisy in particular) and a stadium would have still been better to have at launch.

I love how Nintendo won't make a new F-Zero because they need to think of a new gimmick for it.

But they're more than happy to fart out lazy, half-finished Mario sports games

Someone is spouting BS here

Yikes, at least with the other Mario Sports games on Switch these updates wanted to make me go back and play it for a few minutes to try and get some enjoyment out of a half-baked experience. This update hasn’t even made me want to touch it again. If something isn’t done about this, Mario Strikers will barely have beaten Ultra Smash in terms of depth, and that game only cost $40.

She’s finally here, performing for you!

So it begins.
Let the updates come. Next one for Switch Sports, thanks.

New gear and map are a nice surprise, but I doubt these updates will do anything but make the game "good enough" when updates end after a year or something. Such a weak sequel

Growing ever more glad I didn't pick this up...
Content update taken far after the buzz of the game has died down and it's not enough...

The game is great fun on local game nights. But none of my friends own a copy so I tend to not play too much. Dont have friends to start an online team and I'm not too bothered about teaming up with strangers. Its a pity, the gameplay is fun.

I was gonna say how this is a complete garbage marketing tactic, but they added Shy Guy, so they win this round.

Good, Daisy fans will be pleased

Still want to buy it but will continue to wait until the game is done. Then we'll see.

It's a shame the game looks pretty barebones though. Speaking of bones, they should add Dry-Bones. Imagine him crumbling when tackled!

@Henmii If you diminish the re-sale value, you diminish the value full-stop.

Is it just me, or do the nets not bulge in this game? I haven't bought it yet, but whenever I see a bit of footage I find myself disappointed because a game of this style should have nets that bulge exaggeratedly when a goal is scored. These nets seem to barely move.

I just want a campaign mode

@EarthboundBenjy
It's very hard to understand, isn't it? So very hard. 😑
If I remember correctly, Nintendo even made a statement back when Splatoon on the Wii U released.

Mario Baseball in June 2023 guaranteed.

LMAO at the “new” stadium. It’s just a freaking skin! Bring back the Nintendo creativity into stadiums! If I wanted something as basic as FIFA…. I would buy Fifa

Boo and Birdo would be nice.

I’ll just wait until all the updates are done and I’ll buy the game at a discount.

I understand the thinking behind engaging the audience and doing “free” updates, but who’s really going to spend that much time with a Mario sports title?

Children with no spending power.

As an adult I’ll buy a finished game instead.

@Mando44646 It's cus F Zero will sell nothing and Mario Sports will sell millions. It's quite obvious

@EarthboundBenjy it was “finished” though. This game is just like every other modern game in this industry. Having post release content after the release date doesn’t mean it was launched unfinished.

Does the game need a paid season pass instead of free updates for the game to be more “finished”?

@PeteW well that is a good thing. Mario Sport games are casual pick-up-and play for short sessions. You are looking at the wrong games if you want a tacked on 20 hour RPG mode. Even if it was let’s be real: it boils down to playing against CPU like normally anyway just with a tacked on level up system with other minor gimmicks just like in other games that do this to pad the play time count

This game really needs a way to save your team selection for quickness. It's tiring having to choose your squad again every match

Hope in one of these updates they add the staple of Mario Strikers called Hammer Bro.

it needs Baby Daisy, Baby Peach, and Baby Rosalina now

Game gets new content.

People is still angry it wasn't even more content.

Ugh,

As a game developer, this surely would be disheartening.

Yay, looks like I get to relive my disappointment towards no 4v4 online multiplayer with each paltry update.

Awful from Nintendo! No excuse why this shouldnt be on the physical cart day 1. This is exactly why loyal fans and early adopters get robbed paying full price.

Poor DLC where there is no new modes or anything of substance.

Neat. Content that should have been there day 1.

Yet another reason I see preordering/buying games brand new as a total fools move.

@Arawn93 Good point but I can't afford to spend $60 for 3 hours playtime. There are decent football, tennis and basketball games that regularly go on sale for under $10.

Good that Daisy and Shy Guy are here but still going to wait for additional content updates and/or a discounted price before giving this game my time; still doesn't seem like a $60 game to me.

Did this game poop the bed? After reading the comments it seems the game pooped it’s sheets..

I like Mario Strikers, but as has been the unfortunate case with most Mario Sports titles on Switch, the game needs more content... i.e. More characters, modes, cosmetics, stages, options, stats, tracking, achievements, unlockables etc. like asap. The foundation is still a good core base game but needs some fleshing out and expansion to really feel fulfilling.

I’m hoping Nintendo makes a new Mario Superstar Sluggers, Mario 3-On-3 Hoops and Mario Sports Mix next that are much more comprehensive & expansive.

… Wun can only hope.

At the very least they need to add more colour and uniform options. Also where’s Birdo, Koopa, King Boo, Petey Piranha, Bowser Jr., a Goomba and a Pianta maybe as characters? And Kremlin as another goalie option?

… Wun can only hope.

@PeteW Try N64 Mario sports games.

Way do people need to keep complaining about free updates I get why people complain buts it tiring listening especially since Nintendo likely isn’t listening. And let’s be honest without free updates people stop playing in a few weeks, would it be better for the game to be “complete” and get even more content yes but this is just how things are. Strikers was never about content but gameplay baseball always was content loaded.

On paper this seems like a good idea but from my observations with the countless service sports games Nintendo has released over the years I find it just kills interest in the game very quickly.
I don't think people feel inclined to wait for a minor and sometimes major update for Strikers for example when Splatoon 3, Xenoblade 3 and a bunch of other games are releasing soon.

Also people really need to stop with this double standard seriously stop complaining when a game that’s “complete” doesn’t get a free update and stoping complaining when an “incomplete” game gets a free update.

People sure are entitled unique little snowflakes these days. Back in the day, we'd get a game with minimal content but great gameplay and we'd play it for years. Now you need a single player campaign with cutscenes and RPG style stats, different story for every character, a roster of 64 characters and free updates every week, and people will still complain.

It was clear what was in the tin folks, Nintendo informed us well ahead of time. If you don't like it, don't buy it. As far as Mario Strikers games go, it has the best gameplay, and the content is in line with the previous releases. If you expected more, it's your own fault.

@Switch_Pro I basically agree with you, but do you think it was unreasonable to expect to be able to pair up 2-4 switches on the same team online? It's 2022, after all. The fact that we can't was not "on the tin." In fact it wasn't even mentioned in the NLife review - I believe that review said "several switches" could be paired, which is pretty misleading. Nintendo's own marketing consistently referred to joining your friends online, not your friend. I emailed next level about it and they haven't responded. I think it's a valid complaint and must be patched in.

@luke88 Not too sure what you mean by that. You mean paired locally and then play all together online? It's fair criticism either way, but more of a convenience feature than anything.

Meh I question nintendo choices they release half finish game with little content and they expected people pay for full price no thanks you not even as good as Gamecube one and also they been dead silent on mario kart 8 dlc they haven't released second round or added anything to mario party game for the sports game its been disappointment for Mario.

I wish games would go back to unlockable content. They cut things from the game and release it as "DLC" and a lot of people swallow it up thinking they're getting a good deal.

No solo game modes?
No LEAGUE MODE?
Nothing?
INCOMPLETE GAME
Nintendo can put more 200 characters...without game modes it´s nothing...
I´ll pass

Finally! Shame about the game itself

...I was excited for this game only to find out that it's online multiplayer focused...sighs

Daisy is back?? NICE, I can finally pick up this game now!!

The "No Daisy No Buy" campaign pulls a solid victory!

@EarthboundBenjy switch sports is also released finished

Happy that Daisy and Shy Guy are in. The stages however suck. They are just re-skins of a simple field and absolutely no gimmick.

There she is. There's my girl.

Edit: lol there's so much salt in the comments above. The previous strikers games didn't have any extra game modes either, but plenty of us are still playing those.

@Aurumonado Seriously, the most unique mode ever added to a Strikers game was the challenges in Charged, which were just more CPU games with a handicap. And that would only take you an hour, max to finish if you were good at (exploiting) the game. Everything else, mainly the tournaments, could be replicated with random CPU opponents in versus.

Sadly, long absences breed impossible expectations and nostalgia inertia.

@EarthboundBenjy I was okay when they did it with ARMS since it was a new IP. But they are doing it with all the sports game.

The real question is...
Is Daisy sassy again or not?

(Probably not... RIP Sassy Daisy)

Big Daisy fan here, so this is a great addition to a rather sparse game single player-wise. Shy Guy's an awesome addition too. Both are frequent drivers when I play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe too.

Speaking of MK8D, is it just me, or is Daisy just reusing her lines from that game here?

I expected an arcade style sports game in the vein of NBA Jam, and that's pretty much what this game is. I'm not sure why people thought it was going to be more than that.

@Arkay People have a right to complain about a barebones launch adding 2 boring characters and another arena. It’s a bad trend Nintendo has adopted and I’m not playing along anymore.

@Toads-Friend I agree! What’s taking Nintendo so long to make Wave 2? Why are they being so secretive about it?

There's barely any mention of the half baked and misleading online mode in the comments. You can't squad up with your mates for a true 4vs4 and they totally lead us to believe that it was gonna be possible.

Agree with everyone mentioning that GaaS titles shouldn't be full price at launch. Honestly Nintendo should add the base version of games like this (Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Mario Strikers, Mario Party, Switch Sports) for free as part of the NSO expansion pack and then charge small amounts for extra characters, maps or story modes with a season pass option to get all of the additions at a single cost. I'm a bit confused as to why they keep following the current model as it just seems to be annoying their loyal fan base, but guess these titles sell well to families, so Nintendo doesnt care

If you're not happy with the amount of content offered. Don't buy until it's got the 33% discount. Nintendo offers once a year. If that's still too expensive, vote with your wallet and don't buy it.

Modern gamers seem to want every game to be a 100 + hour jrpg, whatever the game. An arcade sports title really doesn't need a million modes. Is it it fun to play with a group of friends for an hour on a weekend, now and then. If the answer is yes it ticks enough boxes for me.

@Switch_Pro my bad - shouldn't have said "pair"

I mean it's not possible to party up with more than one switch online on the same team; you can only play 2 v 2. Absurd in an online focused game with 4 player teams. Honestly couldn't believe it when I bought the game. I thought I must've missed the option somewhere.

@SonOfVon yes! This was absolutely ridiculous. After all the "play with your friends online" marketing nonsense how could we have guessed they actually meant just friend. Couldn't believe it when I bought the game. The NLife review left it out too, really bothered me.

@luke88 It's an absolutely dismal game as it seems. Neither it has single player, nor a proper multiplayer. I played the demo and it's needlessly complicated with almost rhythm-game-like button combos. The only thing that's good about this game are the graphics. I will not grab this game even in the case of a giveaway, period.

Nintendo just doesn’t understand a big part of its loyal fan base. A big percentage of us loved Nintendo because of their dedication to producing solid solo player experiences. They give us bare (dry) bones now.

This game could and should have become an essential purchase for most users in football loving nations.

The last few AA games have actually put me off both Nintendo and the Switch

I have eben obsessed with Mario and Nintendo for a very long time...but Mario Golf was not very good, Switch Sports is boring (in my opinion) and Mario Strikers is one of the most dull/confusing/empty games I have ever played (It makes WiiU Mario Tennis Ultra Smash look generous in comparison!) Updates don't cut it with me anymore..I have no patience or enough time to wait around until they decide to grant us the pleasure of completing a game. Kirby and Forgotten Land was a true gem but the only great game lately that springs to mind really.

@BenAV
What modes beyond soccer do you want in your soccer game?

@BenAV
So you must hate that Mario Kart 8 Deluxe doesn't have ranked Multiplayer or a gripping Single Player story?

@Toads-Friend
You could always go more than surface deep with you choice of Switch games, there are tons of great games that Nintendo didn't make on the Switch

@Stocksy
That majority is still buying the game despite for weeks leading up to release saying they wouldn't. So if you want Nintendo to change show them by not buying the games you don't like. Sadly I think you'll find out the majority of their customers are not crazy diehards but rather just run of the mill average gamers who enjoy fun games.

@BenAV
You didn't address the fact Mario kart doesn't have a gripping Single player campaign, but yet you find that to be a negative for Strikers

@steventonysmith you’ve missed nearly of all my points. The point is, and history shows this, Nintendo hits gold. Times are good; they get arrogant forget what people want and then their sales suffer often the sales after games that are lacklustre. So people were rightly excited for this and purchased. Once again it’s a bare bones disappointing game. Statistics prove “causal” gamers don’t buy game after game. They have a few core games and buy the odd game after.

The point I was making is that whilst multiplayer and fun co op style sofa games are of course vital and appeal to certain demographics. Games like this can easily have what would seem meaty solo content but in all reality would not take much more investment. Instead it seems the easiest laziest route seems taken.

It amounts to what feels like a demo disk.

@steventonysmith there is absolutely loads to do in Mario kart for solo player - loads of trophies and GPS to win and shed loads of unlockable content. That’s why you play it. It doesn’t need to be a “campaign” to be solo player. It just needs a reason to play that isn’t exhibition

@BenAV
Oh yeah what did it do so much better in that regards? You could play online at all?

@Stocksy
The unlockable content doesn't do a whole lot in Mario Kart and the trophies definitely don't do anything. All you ultimately unlock is one character and reversed tracks. It's about as deep as a puddle yet you don't hear anyone belly aching about Mario Kart 8

@Switch_Pro @steventonysmith Took about 100 posts and then the defenders came out. That’s cool. You love anything nintendo wants to sell you. True fans. The rest of us just give Nintendo our money out of charity for their incompetence.

@sixrings I would comment earlier if I saw the article earlier. The game is great, sorry, deal with it. Is it perfect? No but very few games are even close to perfect. Still the best Mario Strikers to date, and that's good enough for me. And yes, I don't mind supporting a great company that still offers us new experiences 40 years down the line. If they start creating cookie cutter open world and microtransaction riddled games, then I wouldn't support them, but they are not doing that and they likely never will.

@Wargoose You wrote: "An arcade sports title really doesn't need a million modes. Is it it fun to play with a group of friends for an hour on a weekend, now and then."

Answer: Rocket League = a million game modes. I have 500+ hours on Steam and 200+ hours on Switch. My most played game on Switch and on my top 20 most played game on Steam. And it´s an arcade game!

@Rykdrew I play Rocket League as weĺl, not every game released needs to adopt that model.

NBA Jam and Lethal League Blaze, are just as much fun if not more so than rocket league. I've played them for 10 hours max, compared to 200+ on rocket league. Not every arcade game needs a million season passes.

Longevity is not the be all and end all. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is 140 hours long easy, Ys VIII is less than half that playtime. Which is more fun?

@Wargoose Lethal League Blaze, I played for 5 hours and that was enough.
This game has very basic gameplay, and you quickly become invincible. Me and a friend of mine just weren't hit by the ball anymore...so there was an eternal "ping pong".

Windjammers 2 was much more technical and competitive, but, like Mario Strikers, the amount of content is very low and doesn't have as many game modes as a league. So we played a little too.

But Rocket League? Keep pumping. There are hundreds of thousands of people online every day (every minute) playing this game.

Mario Strikers is already starting to die online and the game is a release.

Lethal League Blaz and Windjammers are already dead online...

If a game does't have content, people abandon it, especially online! And the game loses steam and becomes an investment that is not worth $60. Unfortunately.

There are so many FUN games. All prices. They all compete for our available time to play. And in a world where there are so many fun games, the $60 games need to have a lot more content to be chosen from all the available offer options!

I will always defend that expensive games necessarily need to have more content to justify the investment.

Mario Strikers has the same amount of content as Lethal League Blaze, which cost me $8 on Steam.

@Wargoose Longevity is not the be all and end all. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is 140 hours long easy, Ys VIII is less than half that playtime. Which is more fun?

I don´t know, i don´t have fun playing this kind of game...

My 3 most played games ever:

• Ultra Street Fighter IV (2970 hours on Steam).
• Killer Instinct (2200 hours on Xbox).
• Tekken 7 (1993 hours on Steam).

My 2021 5 most played games (apart from the 3 mentioned above):

• Soulcalibur VI
• Street Fighter V
• Slay the Spire
• Magic the Gathering
• Rocket League

(more than 400 hours in each of them)

I pretty much only play multiplayer games.

Only strategy games (like Slay the Spire) I play alone.

But 90% of everything I play is multiplayer with other players or with my wife (who is a pro player in fighting games).

I have A LOT of multiplayer games, and it's pretty easy to compare the games that die online or lose interest, and the ones that are always alive with a community that keeps getting better, making the games more and more fun.

Multiplayer games with little content, lose strength very quickly and you end up playing much less than the others.

I think we're in an amazing age of multiplayer gaming. With MANY options. So if a game does less, people quickly abandon it and play something else.

@Switch_Pro the game is trash. Deal with it.

@FragRed Except it's completely free.

I think Smash Bros Ultimate really spoiled people on what to expect for a game at launch. Not saying Daisy couldn't have been in the base roster but it's kinda sad when people start complaining about FREE content/updates

@Bizzyb So did Splatoon 2, a game that iterates almost to a fault from the first. They criticize that for feeling too same-y and they're gonna do it again for 3. But I'm sure a lot of people prefer not having a game to play and continue fantasizing about their perfect sequel instead of getting an ice bucket of reality to the face. Mark my words, people would have been happier without an 8-player option existing at all.

All these new character models and animations can't have been easy to make, they may as well be brand new characters for the devs. Compare that with all the recycled stuff going from Super to Charged.

@sixrings The game isn’t trash. Deal with it. Maybe you will get your sport game story mode next time.

@sixrings
Some of us interact with friends and family in the real world. In my case we often meet up as a family a couple times a month and love to play games like Mario Strikers. At Launch did it have everything we needed to play a full match of goofy Mario soccer, yes it did. To me that's a successful, fun product. Are they adding free DLC, yup and it didn't make me feel scorned that they are doing this but happy they are bothering you add anything at all.

@Arawn93 personally I don't care for a story mode, but I would like to play with 3 friends online on the same team.

@steventonysmith its 2022 even if you live in the real world which is fine, a large part of the world has moved to online games. Plus I'm not 16 anymore and just go to a friends house after school. As adults time is hard to come by, people live far away, and online is the bridge.

They can add extra characters all they want but if they dont address the online, the poor AI and add some modes then its a let down for the vast majority of people.

@sixrings
I'm 37 and can afford to pay $60 for a game, find enjoyment in it and move on and play one of my other 300+ games and buy new games. I don't need to obsess when a game isn't made to my exact specifications

@steventonysmith congrats.... I assure you I can afford it as well to buy things and then simply say this isn't for me... that isn't the point. Nintendo doesn't need more defenders to this lazy practice or we will just keep getting this lazy approach. Online was part of the world pre pandemic but its in hyperdrive since. If you can't see that or think its not important than we are simply at two polar extremes and will likely never see eye to eye...

@sixrings
You seem like the type who want to be the best big eSport celebrity and require all games to have some robust offerings. And on that front no we won't see eye to eye. I'm ok with even a bare bones online offerings because I will never pick try hard online dorks over the in person family experience

@steventonysmith nice... love the great points you make... clearly when your friends and or family are over they are cool but when you want to play with them online they are "dorks." that makes sense...

And the problem isnt just that the online is bare bones... the entire game is bare bones...

@sixrings I enjoyed it, deal with it. And I will play it again on Switch Pro with the added content.

@Switch_Pro I didn’t enjoy it, deal with it. And I won’t play it again on my switch unless the content is modes not random characters and fluff.

@sixrings
I am glad Nintendo doesn't have a good voice chat option on their online games, because they are have to listen to whiners who think they know better than Nintendo on how to make their games

@steventonysmith there is something called a mute button on Xbox and PlayStation. And there’s an ignore button here if you must only talk to people who share your own opinion.

Maybe you live so often in the “real world” you don’t exactly understand how the internet works.

@F_Destroyer

I meant immediately resell-worth. Though on the other hand: This is not a single-player, so its not finishing it in one weekend and then selling it, like many people do.

@victordamazio

I agree, though I am not against dlc. Its a nice addition to a already full game. However, delivering a flimsy game and then filling it up with dlc, now that's bad. I know that in the case of Mario Strikers we are probably talking mostly about characters, but still.

@gcunit

Agreed.