This month, the world got its first look at the upcoming 'open-zone' Sonic game, Sonic Frontiers, and it's garnered some mixed reactions, to say the least.
IGN has been promoting the game and sharing exclusive footage from Frontiers throughout June, and there's been a lot of online chatter. From the initial footage to more recent impressions, however, it sounds like some opinions are feeling a bit more positive — at least, that's the impression from our lovely video team.
Alex, Zion, and Felix have joined forces to discuss the reveal process for Sonic Frontiers — our very own Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles! The trio pick apart the various pieces of footage, share their ever-changing thoughts, and discuss some of the comparisons with Super Mario Odyssey alongside the game's open-zone definition.
What is Sonic Frontiers trying to do? Was this the right decision to show off in this way? Does the later footage have any potential? These are some of the questions Alex, Zion, and Felix try to answer in the below video. Give it a watch and chime in with your thoughts!
Further reading
- Talking Point: Should Sonic Frontiers Be Delayed? We Discuss Its Bizarre Debut And Fan Reaction
- The Sonic Frontiers Preview Footage Is From An "Early Build"
- Sega Confirms Sonic Frontiers Won't Be Delayed, Says Fans "Don't Understand" It
- Takashi Iizuka: Sonic Frontiers Is Sonic's "Next Step For The Next 10 Years"
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Tbh the game doesn't look that bad. I think the fanbase and even people who don't play Sonic just get a kick out of bashing it with every new release. It's probably going to be a decent game with mostly 7/10 reviews and I think they will improve on it's foundation with a sequel
It’s going to be awesome. I can’t wait and I’m sick of all the negativity against sega! The most innovative gaming company.
I don't know guys, Sonic has confused me for many years now.
It's as polarizing as a franchise as the X-Men movies are. You have some greats, you have some decent games and then you have the absolute lowest of the low.
Besides this, if you look at most of the games side to side you wouldn't even be able to tell they're made by the same developer.
So yeah, Sonic has been confusing a long time.
Game doesn't look bad but still it doesn't look like anything GOTY worthy either. It's a new take for Sonic and hopefully Sega could evolve it into something better if this works for them.
@LXP8
I think the main problem has just been SEGA's counter-productive marketing campaign; actively obfuscating important details that would alleviate confusion and doubt.
Without properly conveying the player's goals or objectives, or the rules of the game, on top of the game looking unpolished, that's lead to everyone calling this a tech demo.
What's there to be confused about? It's a 3d Sonic game. Wait to experience the game for yourself before jumping on the bandwagon and criticizing what's been shown. From what I've seen it might be the first 3d Sonic game I actually play. Looks good to me so far. Now the question will be how well will the Switch version play. That might be Saga's beat selling version so they better not screw it up.
I think the most jarring thing about this new game is that they said that we don't understand the game. And that in itself is all the proof that what they've shown the general public just isn't good from a game design perspective. If a person can't determine how the gameplay is, just from looking at it, then of course we're not going to understand it. I hope this game turns out better than my current estimate of it will is, but I'm afraid they will miss the mark again and people will be better off just buying Sonic Origins if they want a good Sonic game.
@Spoony_Tech
There's been a wide variety of 3D Sonic games anyway.
We've had "Adventure style" games including Adventure, Adventure 2, Heroes, and 06.
We've had "Boost style" games including Unleashed, Colors, Generations, and Forces.
And we've had miscellaneous games such as Lost World, Rise of Lyric (not by Sonic Team).
Whilst both the Adventure and Boost style 3D Sonic games have their merits, the shift in style has sowed division between fans who want more Adventure games (particularly if it features a pet-raising Chao minigame), or just want another good boost game.
Like I already said, people complain that so many franchises become stale, that franchise got boring because it's always the same thing, not only people get sick of playing the same game again and again, but also the franchise refuses to evolve and use the advancements of the videogame industry to its benefit, the franchise declined because it never changes.
Sonic is a rare case where the franchise declined because it changes too much, every game has to reinvent the wheel, every game needs to have new stuff, that often no one asked, instead of just getting the stuff that worked on previous games and just improving and expanding on them, they need to make a completely different game, they could take risks if the franchise was doing well on 3D, but it isn't, they can't even do corridor stages properly, and they are already trying to make an open world.
I can't help but feel that it looks like a tech demo and not a finished off game. Im not into it so i aint buying.
@LXP8 i bet on 8/10
@RupeeClock Exactly. Pre-reviews, a game only exists as marketing, and Sega has done a bad job. Maybe the game is good, but with poor advertising it’s a mystery at best until reviews come out.
I think it’s one of those games people wont have a solid opinion of until it’s in their hands.
It looks awesome, can't wait to play it on Series X.
I really don't think the negativity is at all unreasonable based on what has been said, shared and viewed so far. Say what you want about SEGA and Sonic, the fact is the marketing and PR, to date, has been a disaster.
That doesn't mean it's too late though. It does mean they have a mountain to climb...
I do intend to watch and read future updates on the game, and not just as hope springs eternal... I want to give the upcoming marketing and PR recovery (attempted recovery) a fair go.
There has yet to be a truly great 3D Sonic game (the likes of Generations and Colours were decent but far from great) and this looks to be in the Sonic 06 level of rubbishness.
I have to say that I’m not confused about Sonic Frontiers at all, as someone who has kept up with all the news, details, and real gameplay leaks. Some things are obvious still unexplained right now, but remember news coverage isn’t over yet & some things need to be left as a surprise.
However it really might end up being a game where you need to either play it yourself or find a good review.
I’m still looking forward to it, but can’t deny how mishandled the ‘trailers’ were and the dev response to them seemed to ‘not understand’ why those trailers just weren’t a good showing of what their game is supposed to be about.
Still excited, but within reasonable degree until I can get a better idea what exactly this game is going for in the bigger picture.
@KindofaBigDeal
I mean, Sonic Generations is objectively a great Sonic game, at least according to fans & a whole lot of reviews. Saying that it’s only decent is definitely a personal opinion and not what the majority who have played it thinks.
@Pandy-the-Panda
Nothing objective about it.
Of course it is a personal opinion, what else could it be?
The game actually looks really good. Internet gunna internet, plus people just seem to have a major stick up their arse about Sonic.
This looks like it might be the best Sonic since Sonic Adventure.
Sonic open world lets add some mission Collect Coin
Mission 1 : collect 100 coin
Mission 2 : collect 500 coin
Mission 3 : collect 1000 coin
Mission 4, 5 ,6 ,7
I know it’s unpopular, but I’m getting this game, It looks fun, and the only thing holding it back is marketing.
@Spoony_Tech how about you wait to actually watch the video before jumping on the anti-bandwagon to criticize these folks without even seeing if they address your question
From one or two people I have seen talk about it that have played it they have said it lacks an identity of its own and tries to be too much like your standard open world game. Still not sold on Sonic in an open world where you have to essentially slow down to explore areas since Sonic's whole thing is constantly moving fast. It's definitely an underwhelming reveal of it. Not a game I'm hyped for but will wait to see some of the reviews when it comes out.
Why would we expect to understand it all at this early stage? Chill out, people. The game might suck, but at least wait until you play it (or watch someone play it) to judge.
At this point I think there are as many people who love to hate Sonic games as there are who love to play Sonic games.
It's reminding me a lot of Legends Arceus in a way: a big new take on a classic franchise that we don't really see how it actually plays too much prior to release. PLA was amazing in the end (thank GOD) but it had the leverage of Pokemon being a generally well-liked (and EXTREMELY popular) series whereas Sonic..... has a bit more of an uphill battle to put it mildly. Only time will tell I suppose.
@demacho I watched it when it first hit how about you?
Btw, the video is 2 days old now.
What ign has been doing for this game is awful, they show off the first gameplay, then don't even show anything of meaning, just sonic on rails, and climbing a statue. I've never been that into this series, so I guess I'm fine skipping this one.
They show us something we don't understand, we say we don't understand it, a Sega rep says we don't understand it but that we will understand it in the end. Meanwhile, he doesn't explain anything to us. Well, they have a product to offer. Explaining the product should be the company's main interest, so we will be tempted to buy it. But they prefer to keep quiet and wait. That's a curious case. It baffles me
@Fizza
We keep hearing the same arguments as Legends Arceus as to why Frontiers is going to suck as well:
-Sega is too lazy/understaffed to make a proper fleshed out game (Gamefreak is not able to make good open world games)
-Previous Sonic games have sucked/been buggy (Pokémon has been in a rut recently)
-The framerate/ graphics have been mediocre at best in both trailers.
-The new direction won’t have enough meat on the bones to be good (Pokémon can’t handle these new mechanics strong enough)
I mean, this game still could be bad, but it’s interesting to see the similarities between how the two games were originally viewed.
Not thatbI've ever really been a sonic fan but I really don't see the appeal of this game. It isn't awefull but I don't see any reason anyone should care.
Also, The way they described "open zone" sounded like a linear-sandbox platformer.... In other words, a standard 3d platformer. (With some sandboxy areas???)
goes to show how it can be best to just stay quiet on a game when theres nothing to show yet. this games just been leaving the worst impressions when all we've gotten were test gameplays and devs talking about how great its gonna be
@boxyguy yeah I'm unenthused about this game but if you told me it's in the early stages of development and they're just experimenting with ideas so far, i'd actually be kind of hyped for that spirit even if the results weren't working yet. at least intrigued by the question marks, rather than concerned.
but as it is this just looks like a messy game
I have no idea whether this game will be good at this point. What truly baffles me isn't the game's quality right now, it's SEGA's marketing. Part of the reason Sonic fans keep getting disappointed is that nearly every game in the series always looks good pre-release. SEGA has nailed making bad Sonic games look great since the early 2000s, but all that seems to have gone out the window this time.
Sonic fans are just too hard to please.
Up there with wrestling fans.
I am worried with this one so far from trailers and IGN footage it looks like fan modded Sonic in open world like it or hate it BOTW it did good job with direction and where to go and same with Super Mario Odyssey. Sonic no the open world area looks so empty and bland and when Sonic attacks it looks so rough and slow when he does it the animation looks so bad.
I'm not excited for this one what's bad about this Sega saying fans don't get it how about showing more footage or give us demo what your showing us its more reason not to get the game.
I genuinely don’t understand what everyone’s upset about. I thought the reveal was intriguing and this is the first 3D Sonic game that I’m actually excited to play. This series has been so bad for so long, how could a compelling attempt at something new possibly be unwelcome?
I remember getting a VHS of Emerald Hill Zone 1 footage free with Mean Machines Sega. It looked amazing. I really wanted to play it. My copy arrived in the post day one. Can't say this video inspires anything but apathy. 😩
Given the history of Sega and their output being subpar...fans aren't wrong to be confused.
It's SEGA not SEGGA
@Baler I think it will be great but sega is not the most innovative gaming company lol
Never thought I would see the day when SEGA say we don't understand a Sonic game. Like, what the hell are even video games these days!
@Roger_Brazil Yeah, right. The only new Sonic game to average 8/10 or better on Metacritic in the last 20 years is Sonic Mania, which Sonic Team seems to openly resent because they didn't make it.
@chefgon Define compelling. Because that's not what I've seen.
@SearchingS Coins in a Sonic game?
@Baler Where have you been the last 14 years? Have you not seen what they’ve done to Sonic?! Everyone’s concerns and doubts are valid. Nothing has changed. It’s like a toxic relationship- they tell you that things will get better and that they’ve changed, but nothing changes and the same thing keeps happening…
@Maulbert In this case I meant compelling as in interesting. They’re trying something very different.
I’m not here to defend Sonic Team or anything. I consider the vast majority of their products to be borderline unplayable. But that’s exactly why this very different thing is intriguing.
What I see in the IGN videos is the ability to go in any direction instead of being stuck on a set path, which in turn transforms Sonic’s standard moveset from glorified quick time events into options for getting around the world. I’d rather see anything new and adventurous over the same old uninspired junk they’ve been churning out since 1999.
Sonic Generations is an excellent game, especially on Series X. The marketing of Sonic Origins and Sonic Frontiers have been a total mess. At least, Sonic Origins will be awesome. The thing I don't get about Sonic Frontiers is that it doesn't look like Sonic. Three elements that define Sonic are the environment art style, the music and the animals/victims and I don't see anything. The only thing I see that works fine is the camera (that is usually a mess in Sonic 3D games) and controls seem decent. I know that since Sonic Adventure, there are realistic cities with hamburger joints and people wearing suits but I was hoping that, for once, Sonic would be wild, 3D but still Sonic, with coloured environment, flowers dancing, robots, animals and a cool soundtrack and, why not, a Chao raising mode. I still have hope.
The Nintendo port of Sonic Frontiers should be delayed for the 'NEW' Super Nintendo Switch 2, Pro Model. Render Distance may be awful...I'll gladly accept a 720p resolution for the Switch port if need be for the Render Distance to be high enough with a stable FPS. I get the feeling it will be 30fps at 1080p, as the current Switch may not be able a have a stable 60fps in either 720p or 1080p. That said, I only see a point of delaying Sonic Frontiers for the Nintendo Switch version.
Will Sonic run on top water at close to peak speeds, or not?
IGN are hyping this game a little TOO much, people are gonna have huge expectations now aren't they?
@Tendogamerxxx sonic mania.
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