Sonic Movie Was "A Huge Inspiration" For Sonic Frontiers' Combat

Well hopefully it inspires them to make the animations a little less lifeless in the few months of development they have left.

I never really thought about it, but it would be nice to have a combat system where you don't just boost through an enemy, or jump over it and push a button to automatically hit it.

“In previous titles, we never really put a high emphasis on combat"

Sonic Battle: "Am I a joke to you?"

Sonic isn't about combat, that's why it's never been an emphasis... Sigh.

And hopefully that same quality, though, with the gameplay shown, I have no worry’s.

@RudeAnimat0r Say it with me! Speed!

O I’m sure it was a huge financial inspiration to make the game, period

I assume they're talking from Colors onward, 'cause previous games definitely did emphasize on combat, Silver's and Shadow's gameplay in 06, the Werehog, Sonic and the Black Knight, Adventure's Knuckles gameplay involved using various attacks and combos, Heroes has a plethora of ways to fight enemies.

It's just like Iizuka saying a bunch of false info about wanting to use Frontiers to make SA3 to get people hyped and it sucks.

I think the new footage (not the IGN stuff, the newer clips that showed many improvements) looks much better and there's lots of elements I like about the combat mechanics. It still seems weird to me that Sonic is punching, kicking and using magic/projectiles.

He's a hedgehog. He curls into a ball and his spikes are his weapons. Why would he punch something when his spikes are bigger and stronger? And how does he suddenly have magic and long range projectile attacks? Then again, I'm a classic Sonic purist and was never even sold on his homing attacks, they don't make a lot of sense to me and it feels more fun to jump and try and land on the enemy or the bosses weak spot, rather than it beign an automatic locked on process.

Given that these elements are all included though, I think the latest footage looks like they are encorporated well and they look fun to use. My main worry is how long it takes to take down certain enemies... traditionally most badniks only take one hit, and you can use the extra bounce you get after that hit to gain momnetum and move onto the next enemy or increase the speed/flow of your run. I hope that stopping dead and spending 30 second to a minute grinding down a generic grunt enemy is not a common thing.

And people wonder why there hasn't been a great in-house Sonic game in over 20 years.

@samuelvictor
I assume Sonic is just moving fast enough to shoot the wind as a projectile, in fact I’ve heard that the move is in previous games and named “Sonic Wind”. I do like the homing attack as a mechanic, but it truely doesn’t make any sense at all on now it is performed in the context of the His World.

@Maulbert
Sonic Generations: Am I joke to you?

@Pandy-the-Panda Oh... I guess that kinda makes sense! Thanks

@Royalblues
the Sonic Frontiers footage in the IGN videos was provided by Sega.

@RubyCarbuncle couldn’t agree with you more, is there anything worse than people being so negative to a game that hasn’t even come out yet? People wanted them to do something different and given how much the other 3D games are criticised I for one think they have done the right thing. Game has potential and I look forward to it myself!

That's nice, I still won't get it because of Sega's whining and complaining that fans, quote-unquote, "don't get it".

Oh, I think they get it, alright, and they dislike what they'd seen so far strongly.

Sega needs to completely forfeit the Sonic IP stuff, as well as NiGHTS and other series, to companies that actually care about IPs. Just imagining a NiGHTS game made by Nintendo is an amazing thought!

With some of these articles from Sonic Team members, it's like these guys completely live in a vacuum. Sonic taking ideas from movies, Sonic not like BOTW, etc.-- Uhhh a lot of what Sonic did fighting wise in the movie could be seen in many of his cartoon incarnations, and there's no way BOTW doesn't at least "slightly" come to mind looking at the SF footage. IJS, they're so "wow!" about it all... It just doesn't give me hope for SF, but I'm pulling for it, despite my comments.

Imagine Nintendo saying 'With this new Mario game, we really concentrated on the combat.'

That's maybe why the world he's in has the more realistic look too.

Now I'm remembering Street Fighter The Movie, the game... (Shudders)

Could you maybe put an emphasis on launching without bugs? That's something else you haven't tried.

I hope we get more footage like on story and the content so far not impressed since the open world just looks so empty.

@GrailUK "...and we've been playing a lot of XCOM recently, and does anyone remember those annoying Minion-bunny things from those Rayman party games for the Wii?" 😋

Watched the new gameplay demos and doesn't look any better. He has some punches and kicks and what looks like a dodge counter. Puzzles still look boring. Pop in of platforms is still poor and too close to the player especially when going at speed...like Sonic does.
If we are giving Team Sonic the benefit of the doubt and their concept is just TOOOOO REVOLUTIONARY for our simple minds to understand then whoever is running their marketing and PR should be fired. Sega has really botched this up.

All and all how I see looks like it is trying to be elements of ripped right out of BoTW & Mario Odyssey + bog standard modern platforming + Sonic speed. Wish they could just give us a hint of something more creative. Sonic Forces at least promised something more exciting than Frontiers is now.

“We never put a high emphasis on combat”
Good!

So this game will had skill tree, does that mean Sonic will learn new moves or get new moves as we play? At this point this will be more in the progression of Zelda, Mega Man, and Metroid where as you play you get to find more upgrade and had more skill sets for newer levels/bosses. If this is the progression Sega is taking Sonic then that'll be okay, I just hope they don't ruin the tradition of Sonic while doing so like high speed gameplay and clever platforming.

@samuelvictor See. It's perfectly fine when someone like Ubisoft says it.

Wasn't Sonic Unleashed an experiment in this direction?

@GrailUK hehe

I need to see a hud on how this'll all work. I can't see this clicking w/o a hud.