Happy 31st birthday to the blue blur! We've seen Sonic the Hedgehog change and evolve tons over the years, and the next step in his journey — Sonic Frontiers — is bringing some of the franchise's biggest changes yet. But before we look forward, we're looking back today with the launch of Sonic Origins.
The compilation game dropped on consoles today, including Switch, and dataminers have already dived in to see what hidden nuggets they can find. And @ahremic on Twitter has found some leftover files in Origins, but these aren't for any of the classic Sonic games, but rather for Frontiers (Thanks, Sonic Stadium and BlueStarEXSF on ResetEra).
These shaders indicate that the menus in Origins were made using tools for Frontiers, which means there are references to potential aspects of the next 3D Sonic game. Of course, these may no longer be part of the game now, so it's worth taking all of this with a pinch of salt, but there's some pretty interesting stuff to gleam here — including the return of everyone's favourite frog-chasing cat.
@ahremic and a friend popped all of their finds in a Pastebin doc right here. Many files refer to completing missions, tutorials, and clearing levels, but we've selected some of the more interesting parts:
- FirstChaosEmeraldStrageOpen
- FirstChaosEmeraldStrageGet
- ChaosEmeraldGot
- KodamaElderFirstTalked
- KodamaHermitFirstTalked
- FishCaught
- NewFishFirstLooked
- FishingBigFirstTalked
- UIKodamaTutorialWatched
- FishingSpotId
- GrowFlowerStartDay
Some of these are pretty self-explanatory still — Chaos Emerald stages are coming back, and Grow Flowers may indicate a new mode or just be code for flowers respawning. But in this little scoop of data we've fished out, we think three important new details are worth digging into.
First is all of the files referencing 'Kodama'. Kodama, in Japanese folklore, are spirits that inhabit trees (if you've seen Studio Ghibli's Princess Mononoke then you'll know). This could be a brand new character being introduced in Frontiers. And, well, from all of the footage we've seen, tree spirits wouldn't be out of place in this strange new world.
The other two should really be discussed together, and if you've ever played Sonic Adventure then you know where this is going. 'FishingBigFirstTalked' is potentially referring to Big the Cat, the fishing-loving cat who has to save his best pal Froggy through a bunch of fishing minigames. There are plenty of files here that refer to fishing, so that may well be coming to Frontiers. And if it is, then it makes sense that Big too would be there. We know you all love him really. Maybe.
We'll say this again, of course — these files were found in Sonic Origins, so they may no longer be relevant to Frontiers, but it's an indication of what has at least been considered for the next 3D entry in the Sonic series. We'll have to wait and see if this turns out to be a good catch!
Sonic Origins is out today on Switch — find out what the critics thought of the game in our round up. Sonic Frontiers is currently scheduled to be released later this year.
What do you think of the datamine? Do you want to see Big the Cat return? Let us know in the usual spot!
[source resetera.com, via sonicstadium.org]
Comments (21)
Neat, I guess?
How can a datamine HINT at something instead of just actually reveal information
To be honest, I don't care what anyone says, I am genuinely excited to play this, provided it comes as physical.
Big the Cat, hmm I like the fishing games, but his obsession with Froggy is a little disturbing.
@AzzyC it's only a HINT/Rumour as it hasn't been officially confirmed, someone could have put that wording in there just so this article would be created and to cause hype and it actually controls the weather or something
I’m hyped for frontiers, I know I shouldn’t get my hopes up, but I can’t help it!
@AzzyC Mostly because of naming in the code. Depending on how it was referenced in programming, it could mean a plethora of things. The datamined text is up for interpretation.
Sonic Adventure aged poorly, at the time, many people liked it, but now, it's a divisive game that many people claim that it wasn't even good back then and was surpassed, it was never good and people were just fooled.
But even in 1999, everyone hated playing as Big.
@victordamazio I agree that it aged poorly, but not with saying people got fooled, as it was what was great at the time, were people fooled into thing mario 64 was good?
@Snatcher Super Mario 64: A game that while it was surpassed by others, it's still fun to play today, it aged well, and some people claim that there are still games that need to learn from it, even ones made by Nintendo.
GoldenEye 007: A game that many people claim it was good and revolutionary at the time, but it was surpassed by other FPS games and it's hard to come back to it without nostalgia.
Sonic Adventure: A game that not only people claim it aged poorly, but others claim it was never good to begin with and people overlooked all the problems that were bad game design even in 1999, all because it was the first truly 3D Sonic.
@victordamazio Happily fooled here. Game is still a joy to play.
@victordamazio It’s not like I don’t agree with it being outdated, it’s just that people being fooled? Just because a group of people don’t like something?
People said colors was good, that colors was sonic highest points, now everyone talks about the terrible platforming, were they fooled into thinking the game was good? Were people who hated sonic unleashed fooled into thinking it was bad?
Were people fooled into thinking Mario 64s camera was good?
Idk, I’m probably making no sense, I just don’t really understand.
@victordamazio I still enjoy playing both Adventures. They might have their issues, but they're still more joyously fun to play at times than a lot of games.
I'd put them in the same boat as MegaMan Legends. Stuffed to the brim with early 3D mistakes, but still fun at their core.
I called that the moment I realized the icons in the purple coins were hooks, it's somewhere there in Sam's reaction video's chat. Purple hook coins were already a huge giveaway.
This time of year, more than any, I feel like the gaming community requires their own version of "take it with a pinch of salt"!
Didn't a leaker already confirm that there will be fishing mini-games in Sonic Frontiers? I think these hints now confirm that that may be true, we'll had to wait and see. Though it would be nice to see the return of Big the Cat, I still don't see what benefit a fishing mini-game add to the game unless it is just another way to earn in-game currency or unlock achievements.
As long as it doesn't lead to another "Classic Sonic in Modern Sonic world for no reason" bs like in Forces, I'm fine with this.
It was the whole idea of Sonic Generations, but in Sonic Forces feels shoehorned.
I wouldn't mind seeing Big the Cat and Froggy again in a 3D Sonic game. These two characters get way too much hate from the fanbase.
I like to imagine it's just actually just a mini game port of the classic Mobile Game, Sonic Fishing.
Only interested with the Kodama, since Princess Mononoke is one of my favorite films of all time.
@Serpenterror
The fishing mini-game is confirmed info.
Big the Cat showing up on the Star Fall Islands with no story reason would actually be hilarious. I hope it’s either that or the story context is that he’s the only one with no amnesia.
Frontiers sounds like Sonic Adventure on steroids, so I would expect Big the Cat and most all of the Sonic cast to appear.
Honestly, it's just a meme at this point to hate on 3D Sonic games.
Yes, Adventure and Adventure 2 still hold up well as a fun experience.
Sonic Heroes is extremely underrated. (Better than the Adventure games in some ways imo)
Unleashed is alright.
Colors and Generations are awesome games.
Lost World is alright.
A lot of the spin-offs are awesome.
Even Sonic Forces isn't terrible.
And for those who say "Well the 2D Sonic games are still better!!", they always seemed to ignore all the great 2D Sonic games on GBA, DS and 3DS anyway... almost like they just want to complain about things.
If it weren't for the massive misstep of Sonic '06, I don't believe there would be nearly the amount of disdain for 3D Sonic today.
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