Back when Retro Studios was riding high on the success of the Metroid Prime trilogy, not many expected them to jump off of the space bounty hunter's ship and into the jungle in Donkey Kong Country Returns. This fantastic platformer rebooted the Donkey Kong Country series from the SNES with beautiful visuals, tight platforming, and funky music, and it's no surprise a sequel followed suit. But fans were looking for a different game from Retro Studios at the time — a Zelda game.
In an interview on the Kiwi Talkz podcast on YouTube, Eric Kozlowsky — who worked as an artist on Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze during his time at Retro Studios — spoke of how the team dealt with the rumour mill while working on the upcoming sequel.
Kozlowsky had previously worked on Brütal Legend and Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception, so his varied back catalogue, and experience in working on adventure games, lead many to believe that Retro would be working on a brand new Zelda game. Kozlowsky jumped between a few studios in the run-up to his tenure at Retro and talked about how this affected people's expectations and how he had to adapt.
That was the funny thing about when I joined Retro and everyone was looking at my portfolio and like "oh my god, he's worked on Uncharted, that must mean Retro is working on a Zelda game" and I'm like, no I'm just a versatile artist. I could do realistic stuff, I could do cartoony stuff. I'm adaptable and I think to have longevity in this industry you need to be adaptable.
When asked if he and the other Retro developers went online and looked at these rumours, Kozlowsky admitted amusingly that they did indeed and that they laughed about it, but that it could also be frustrating because it created "false expectations".
I think that happened when we announced Tropical Freeze, you know, everyone was like "oh they've been working on a Zelda game, they're working on a Zelda game" it's like... nope. And we announced Tropical Freeze and it looks phenomenal and it's gorgeous looking and then people are like "oh but it's another Donkey Kong" and then, you know, people are s***ing on it on NeoGAF or whatever, and you're like "oh man".
So while the devs were able to laugh about the rumours, Kozlowsky did feel that it was "frustrating when it [rumours] kind of carries on for a bit too long", which is understandable, because Tropical Freeze turned out to be a marvellous game.
There is reason, however, to believe that Retro Studios was working on a Zelda title, though this was before Kozlowsky's tenure at the company and during the Wii era. Concept art from the cancelled project made it out to the public last year in a huge leak.
You can listen to the whole interview with Eric Kozlowsky on Kiwi Talkz's podcast below.
[source youtube.com]
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What’s Steven Beale from Eastenders doing working for Retro Studios?
Lol, I remember that and didn't really buy into the hype. Wish we got a third entry from them, because Returns and Tropical Freeze were excellent games.
Tropical Freeze is an incredible game. I still play it regularly to this day
I don’t understand why Retro puts out so few games.
"False expectations" this industry seems to run on them
Not really our fault we wanted something actually interesting and exciting from Retro again. Personally, despite the claims, I consider the DK platformer reboots to be quite ***** (and the character not particularly deserving of modern video games), so I've been desperate for literally anything even half interesting from Retro for over a decade now. They should have done something Zelda instead.
I remember the Metroid fanbase pitching an absolute fit about Tropical Freeze as well.
That game deserved better from people before it came out.
@pichuscute0 And I consider both DK games to be far and away better than Metroid Prime, doesn’t mean you need to be an ass for not getting what you specifically want.
This is the problem with giving too much attention to so called inside experts making claims of new games or hardware. For the past few years people have been claiming things like a Switch Pro would be announced because they know what's happening apparently and people take it as true then act like Nintendo suddenly changed their mind last minute.
Yes, this was something 8 years ago. Would have been nice to see different work or new work from these guys
Would be nice if nintendo realized DK existed
A small corner of the Internet crapped on the game? Well a corner of the Internet is crapping on everything and everyone at any given time. But that was not the larger picture of this game’s release, which was very positive
He looks just like Steven Beale 😂🤣
Loved Tropical Freeze! That was one of those games from beginning to end I was constantly surprised, engaged and just straight up having a great time Kinda like how Super Mario Odyssey was for me.
Tropical Freeze is one of those rare games that just feels excellent to play. It’s difficult to put into words, but I always just had a good time playing it, between the generous yet weighty controls, artful graphics, and excellent difficulty balance. I lost Returns 3D, but as a kid I remember similar good memories. I would really be into a 3D game being pumped out by the studio, as it’s obvious they care about the ape’s history, and have a lineage of quality
On the subject of this particular squabble, people being upset is understandable. Nintendo fans are so starved for IP’s outside of the same 5 that seeing a subsidiary make the same style of game again is never not going to cause grumblings among complainers. However, the simple characters of this game betray one of the most refined games visually I have ever seen. The Western-styled animation did wonders for this games charm, and the atmosphere really captures the beauty of nature.
@pichuscute0 This has just to be the wrongest opinion on the internet.
@Koda1000 They spend a lot of time working on prototypes that don't end up getting developed, from what I remember reading before they took over Metroid Prime 4. How they still got paid during those years of no releases pre Prime 4 development is beyond me.
To use his quote: "To have longevity in this hobby [gaming], you need to be adaptable."
I feel like all those NeoGAF dudes would live far longer if they could enjoy good games of all franchises and genres, because sooner or later they'll cut themselves from edginess and die of dehydration from all the salt.
It's not like DKC was an oversaturated series like, for example, Mario Party during the Gamecube generation. Just let it be.
Awww, i thought this was regarding the recent rumors of a zelda remake/remaster, like wind waker & twilight princess for switch. I was interested in how these rumors would have affected Retro...🤣 I guess that's unnecessary. It could have given insight to their genuineness. 🤷🏻♂️
@Parkour_LMan to be fair, the squeaky wheel usually gets the grease, so i can understand why people are so vocal in this day & age. There are only so many games in development, & so many developers to go around. Everyone wants them to spend that limited time on their favorites, so it's understandable, IMHO.
@Migoshuro wrongest isn't a word, & wrong opinion is an oxymoron 😜
rumor mongering just annoys and disenfranchises people who work in the game industry???
it's okay. this site will just whip “Switch Pro“ rumors into another frenzy in no time.
Lol wrongest. Love the way people on here come out with words that don't exist 🤣
@Koda1000 The studio was missmanaged.
@twztid13 Of course. My post also wasn't meant to be taken seriously. I knew, that I should have put an emoji behind it. Well, my bad.
Not trying to upset anyone but I really wish they were making another DKC game instead of Metroid Prime 4. I never liked Metroid Prime but Tropical Freeze is legitimately one of Nintendo's very best platformers out there to this day.
This is why rumors need to be taken with a grain of salt and expect to be dissapointed
@JakedaArbok Really wanted to like it, but it feels more cumbersome than the original trilogy… I’ll be going back to it eventually, so hopefully I can enjoy it like other people seem to be able to…
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