Global Chip Shortages And Supply Issues To Continue Into 2023, Says Intel Boss

And here roll in the comments where people say the next gen nintendo console's going to release in 2023, and that the switch pro is going to be announced tomorrow, and release the same day!

This time next year: "Global chip shortages to continue into 2024"

I don't get it. Why doesn't Japan just grow their own potatoes?

"We've already heard how supply and production issues in the tech industry won't be improving anytime soon, and now Intel chief Pat Gelsinger has issued yet another reminder that the shortage of semiconductors will likely continue into 2023."

We have? I sure didn't. Why are the supply issues persisting?

@TheAwesomeBowser We'll be lucky to even see the shortage end in our lifetime. It's good for business for these manufacturers, since they get to upcharge for scarcity, and all the graphic cards being produced are being bought by Crypto Fiends, who actively destroy cards for money.

@Bolt_Strike We've been hearing about it each year, and it's mostly due to how Covid effected the mining of materials, the shipping of those materials, the production of the chips in China and Taiwan, and the effect that the Crypto boom has on tech at the moment. Not to mention the industry giants who are fighting over the tech like rabbid animals, while most of the graphics cards produced go to Crypto and NFT Bros, who love to destroy them for money.

With all of the new manufacturing plants being built by 2023, the shortage will most certainly end then. It's just gonna take them until then to build these new facilities. The end is in sight, boys. Just 18 more months!

Still not as bad as Sony's stock issues lol

@iLikeUrAttitude I mean, Sony's stock issues are being caused directly because of this. I'd say this is worse than their stock issues, given that apparently some Graphics card producers are going back to 6 year old tech in order to keep business afloat while the semiconductors are unavailable.

Boooo the chip shortages.

There are many issues at play here. Many people quit their jobs - the so called "Great Resignation" has also affected supply chains with companies not being able to deliver the raw materials or manufacture them.

It's not just the pandemic, you see people quitting in Ubisoft or Blizzard - which affected the launch of games, it also happens in other industry. There are people quitting or protesting due to vaccine or lockdown and other social issues.

The world is erupting with people not wanting to be slaves of the economy. Sometimes it makes you wonder if that's the side effect of Covid-19, It makes people rebellious? Maybe that's why government around the world are so adamant to vaccinate the people.

The tangible reason for chip shortages however is due to ABF - which is made by only one company in the world: Ajinomoto in Japan. It's funny that the entire chip industry in the world rely on a single company to make this component. Now they know, never put all your eggs in one basket.

@Zuljaras : And ideally a huge leap forward for the next generation.

@Zuljaras same here, I'm in absolutely no rush for a new machine and even less interested if it doesn't respect my switch purchases 200 and counting. I love my switch above any of the previous 14 computers/consoles/handhelds I've owned. I think the semiconductor issue is a massive factor in why nintendo didn't add a pro model

@iLikeUrAttitude If Sony relaunched their PS5 in 2022, it would still feel brand new to me, coz I have yet to see a real PS5 on the shelf yet...

@Not_Soos Sir you ok?

It's going to be a weird gen for Sony and Microsoft if the chip shortage continues to affect them into 2023. We will either see the true start of their gens with pro consoles or a longer generation to recuperate a slow 3 year start.

@TheAwesomeBowser Like it'll really last that long.

and some people think we will get Nintendos next generation console in 2023, get that though out of your head if they are going to struggle to get base Switches out how are they to get a brand new console and enough of them by 2023? No chance next gen in 2023 I think 2024 at the very earliest, realistically in 2025

@VoidofLight The problem with the theory that the chip shortage guarantees no new Nintendo hardware is it assumes that the chip shortage ends at some point which is seemingly becoming less likely as time progresses. If the chip shortage lasts long enough, eventually Nintendo will just accept that stock will be low much like Series X and PS5 but continue to release new hardware anyway.

vixe, this could impact heavily the Switch sucessor.

CONFIRMED!
Nintendo's next console will not use semi conductors.

On a serious note, good time to be a toy company maybe?

Well that's Playdoomed then!!!

@Grumblevolcano And then no one will be able to buy that new hardware, meaning Nintendo will lose money, and it’ll be the Wii U 2.0

Nintendo isn’t dumb enough to release a new console in a period of time that will ensure that no one will be able to buy said console. Sony and Microsoft released theirs, only because they had plans right as the pandemic hit. Nintendo probably wouldn’t release new hardware seeing how hard those two companies have been hit by the shortages, and how Nintendo themselves can’t even produce enough switches to meet demand. They’ll probably just keep going with a console that has a big install base, focusing on software for a while.

I think this news is just a letting you all know that they are going up in price!!

@Entrr_username Lol, I was expecting to get a comment like this one. I'm fine, just not very hopeful for the state of the world at the moment. I know what I said was rather pessimistic, but I don't know why the mods deemed it inappropriate and removed it. It certainly wasn't a call to violence, as I hope we don't have any future wars. I guess it wasn't very relevant to the topic at hand, but I've made some pretty controversial comments in the past that were also more political than game-related and they never got flagged. Ah, well. No real biggie unless NL has a "so many strikes and you're out" policy. I would like to know what I did specifically though, so as not to do it again. But yeah, I don't know if your comment was meant to be facetious or serious, but if the latter, I appreciate it. I'm okay!

@Silly_G
Because they choose like most civilized countries to manufacture cheap crap in China, maximizing profits.The Japan of the 90's is long gone unfortunately.

@Silly_G It's no joke about potatoes, McDonalds in Japan are rationing french fries!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59750613

@TSR3 : My God, I thought it was satire. XD

And yet my initially facetious point remains... why the hell are they importing potatoes of all things?!

Well, at least I'll be able to get a PS5 by 2025...might as well wait for the PS6 by then. I see this lasting longer than 2023...no one is wanting to work, many more are quitting their jobs...it's not going to change anytime soon and even with everything that's going on (huge costs in products, less products on shelves and more), nothing will come, except another War. In other words, don't get bored with the consoles you have now, because a new console doesn't seem to be coming anytime soon. Sad part is how hard it is to find even a PS4, Xbox One and Switch at the moment, even hard to find the past generation consoles.

@Not_Soos yeah I reported your original comment. Sorry but it was completely out of left field given the topic at hand and the fact this is a gaming news site.

@Entrr_username

Well, I respect you for owning up to it. No hard feelings. It was vaguely related to the topic at hand, at least as much as the article on LGBT representation in Fortnite--where everyone started debating religion and sexuality in the comments--and while plenty of comments got deleted, people were still allowed to have civil political discourse about it even though it had nothing to do with Fortnite itself. I wish the mods would be more consistent about that sort of thing instead of only allowing general discussion in certain instances. But I guess in an article like that, you know what you're in for, whereas I really ran with the chip shortage thing as a premonition of things to come, which must've really caught you off guard. I typically don't like to spew negativity; the world is plenty nihilistic as it is. So I completely get where you're coming from.

I've been working really hard lately to overcome some inner demons, and I always used to be really anxious about being harassed online and/or canceled for voicing my opinions that go against the grain. Lately, I've just been saying whatever I want to say without fearing the repercussions, and it's been extremely liberating. So in response to your question about whether I'm okay, I've honestly been feeling better than ever lately. There's a time and a place for everything though, so I'll try to keep all the non-gaming stuff to Twitter or somewhere. My apologies.

Now please don't report this one, I promise to be more relevant after this comment.

Switch 2 in 2022, armirite? 😉

@Silly_G Because the type of chips they're talking about aren't made from potatoes silly, they're made from corn.

Nintendo hoarding all the chips.

.....I'm never going to find a retail price PS5, am I? :/

And yet my initially facetious point remains... why the hell are they importing potatoes of all things?!

@Silly_G It's even more absurd than that. Those potatoes are coming (at least in large part) from the southern Okanagan Valley, one of the very few legitimately semi-arid ("desert") areas in Canada. And the shipment is delayed because of recent huge floods there!

Just thought that, as an Australian, you'd appreciate that 😁

so then what do they serve along with fish in england now?

The Chip shortage will definitely help Nintendo this Christmas, the Switch is pretty much the only console that you can buy off of the shelf.

@SonOfVon : A game of Blackjack.

@CANOEberry : I just can't wrap my head around the sheer absurdity of it all. o.O

And speaking of floods, I was co-managing a fruit shop 10 years ago, and the banana crops in Queensland were devastated by flooding that year. We tried to price our bananas as competitively as possible, at around AU$15 per kilo (2.2lb), while the larger chains were selling them for $20. Still, our customer base was really limited, and we were selling them at a loss considering how much of it was thrown away. I'll never forget ringing up a customer who came to the register with $45 worth of bananas. To this day, I wonder what the occasion was, but I was a little too embarrassed to ask.

So yes, I am quite sympathetic to those suffering the pains of stock shortages.

@Savage_Joe They are building new factories. It will just take until 2024 for them to be ready to produce chips. So around 2025 we might see things normalizing again

It’s almost like maybe we don’t need a new iPhone or Galaxy model every year. Maybe we don’t need each manufacturer having 100 different varieties of television models at any given time. Maybe there are some things that don’t need to be connected to the internet, or have computers in them at all.

@VoidofLight We probably will see it end when the Crypto bubble crashes. It's a completely unregulated market, and like the housing bubble before it is going to wreck the economy when the bottom falls out. But it'll also put an end to mining being in serious demand when that happens.

@VoidofLight what good news I was waiting for the switch pro!

@link3710

And then maybe we can find 3080s at MSRP.

@ROBLOGNICK

I actually agree with this.

The desire to interconnect everything, the goal of a true “internet of things,” is being proven to be fragile.

There’s no reason a refrigerator should be computerized. It’s a refrigerator. It’s job is to keep thing cool. Not instant order crap off of Amazon.

My best friend is dead set on getting one. And I don’t understand the appeal. I want the simplest refrigerator possible, which is what I bought. And my refrigerator has more internal space than the one he wants, and yet it costs literally 25% of that one he wants.

But his comeback is “I can watch YouTube on it.” And I’m like “dude, why the hell would you want to watch YouTube on a refrigerator?”

This is why chip manufacturing needs to...oh..I don't know...globalize rather than only exist in a single country?

It won't fix the problem immediately, but it will certainly help when...I don't know...pandemics or other disasters occur that could strangle production?

I know...wild concept. Unfortunately, said country has cheap labor.

The global food shortage and the global chip shortage will kill us all. We are doom.

@NoTinderLife Yes, I do think there's a political and socioeconomic element at play here. But it's not specifically because of COVID, COVID just exposed the issues. The current economic system just gives business owners WAAAAAY too much power and encourages them to exploit workers and customers so they can take as much money as possible. The issues with the Great Resignation aren't going to end until a new, less corruptible economic system replaces the current one. They could still solve other factors of the chip shortage without it, but the lack of willing workers is not going to end without a more fair economic system (which yes, is probably going to require war/revolution as the current political and business leaders aren't willingly going to allow themselves to make less money to make sure their people are adequately cared for).

@TheRedComet I never understood people who want a juicer that has to constantly connect to the internet to even function. It’s expensive, and it’s not practical.

@Bolt_Strike Even so, there’s currently not an economic solution that’s better than the current. Socialism and Communism may sound nice on paper, but they’ve been proven to never work in the slightest. Other than those two systems, there’s nothing else except Capitalism, which while it has it’s issues, it’s proven to be the best out of the three, given that it’s a free market, and that people can actually own things. It’s just easily abused sadly.

So you mean I don’t have to spend 500 dollars on a new console in 1-2 years. That is I actually pretty nice.

On the bad side guys like switch force will continue to only post clickbait switch pro videos.

@Bolt_Strike
Or maybe, just maybe it is because the world shut down for 6 months and people weren’t able to mine materials that are needed. What am I saying obviously it is about politics.

@DannyBoi If that's the case then where's the Switch Pro at?

@JudaiMasters 2025? As if.

@Specter_of-the_OLED Plenty of food dude.

@VoidofLight Capitalism doesn't necessarily need to be fully abandoned, just reformed with a hybrid solution. Keep private ownership of businesses, but provide more welfare programs for all citizens (including universal healthcare and universal basic income) funded by the wealthy, guarantee all workers the right to unionize, and incentivize businesses to incorporate more worker ownerships (such as worker owned cooperatives and worker representatives in companies' board of directors). There is no reason society should have to tolerate business owners' temper tantrums of "we want all teh moneyz!". It's childish. Those kinds of changes are an utter must to regain any sort of normalcy to the economy.

@HedgehogEngine TSMC don't need to close 16nm fabs to build new fabs. They've already got 7 & 5 nm fabs and their first 3nm fab is due to open next year. No-one is closing fabs of any size node in the current market!

@Silly_G I guess Japan needs potato advice from our potato farmer Bill Gates.

Does iNtel make chips for Switch? Here's why iNtel is blowing hot air.
While the American semiconductor manufacturer has no ties with Nintendo's hybrid console, the Japanese video game maker has already expressed concerns about keeping up with the consumer demand for its own hardware.
So in other words this is marketing spoof by iNtel because they are loosing out to AMD CPU.

Ah, crypto. Is there absolutely nothing in the world you can't utterly ruin

All of the chips used to be made in my country. Now none of the chips are made in my country. Now my country whines about no chips. Well… 😂

@Specter_of-the_OLED Because, the already existing switch models will carry us into the end of days. That, and they need chips for when switch will be a hot commodity in the end of days.

@SwitchForce Yes, Pat Gelsinger has made a habit of playing up the chip shortages several times this year. Some of it will be to distract from Intel's problems of the last 5 years. I'm not aware of any of semiconductor manufacturer predicting problems past the end of 2022 yet.
However there is a counter-narrative. Intel are due to launch their own GPU cards soon. In order to compete with AMD and Nvidia, Intel are actually getting TSMC to produce their designs for them! That means Intel probably do have an idea how hard it is to get 5nm and 3nm capacity from TSMC in the next year or so.

@HedgehogEngine Interesting what you say about 28nm as one of the chip shortages is in that and larger nodes. The other one is at the 7nm and smaller end where TSMC have had a monopoly so far. However TSMC still produce those older sizes as well (https://www.tsmc.com/english/dedicatedFoundry/technology/logic). There was a rumour earlier this year about Nvidia closing down 16nm production. The rumour came out in the middle of the Switch Pro hype, and was never substantiated (or even repeated by other sources AFAIK). Are you thinking of that story when you say 'TSMC closes their 16nm line(s)'?

@HedgehogEngine Legacy lines are important for some applications that cannot see their critical designs revised (eg. Approved medical appliances) but aren't meant for mass-market uses.
Too true, this is the part that is missed we all talk about fancy tech but not all tech can just drop and go. Some tech must be gradual as example medical hardware because of their complexity and integration must do it carefully.