The best part of working in games journalism is when you get to wildly speculate about a split-second thing in a trailer, and so, here we are. It's speculatin' time! Get yer binoculars and magnifying glasses ready, and take copious meaningless notes!
You may have noticed (unless you were screaming excitedly) that the Breath of the Wild 2 trailer has some weird reversed music in it. It wouldn't be the first time that Zelda games have played with reversed sounds — the iconic Skyward Sword theme is actually a rearrangement of Zelda's Lullaby backwards, after all.
Enterprising ex-journalist and current writer of video games, Mitch Dyer, took it upon himself to reverse it and find out if there was a hidden message, but... it doesn't seem like there was. In fact, it sort of seems like it's the same forwards as it is backwards. Hmmmmm.
Another avid fan, TAHK0, reversed even more of the trailer (that is, all of it) to reveal that the music was just... the Breath of the Wild theme in reverse? But what does it all mean?
[Update 16/06/21: TAHK0's tweet has been deleted; here's a YouTube video showing the same thing.]
Maybe it was just a nice little reference.
UNLESS. (Here we go.) Unless it was a clue, somehow, to what the game's really about. Quite a few people have been theorising that the longer hair on the character with their back to us means that we'll be playing as Zelda herself, possibly when they engage with this new gravity-shifting mechanic. And what is Zelda, but the inverse of Link? (Yeah, okay, that's a bit of a stretch.)
Now, this has been a theory for a long time — some of us (me) even thought that the original Breath of the Wild would be a Zelda-focused game, because we initially didn't see Link's face until right at the end of that first teaser. Plus, remember Linkle? We sure do.
We've never really had the chance to play as Zelda (unless you count the bit in Spirit Tracks where she's dead), and while we don't want to get our hopes up, it would be extremely cool to traverse the open world with two characters for the first time ever. But also... it does just look like Link has long hair in the trailer, doesn't it? Let's not get our hopes up too high.
But there's another prevailing theory, too: Link's actually time-travelling. Where else have we seen those floating islands? That's right — Skyward Sword, the first game in the Zelda story timeline. Breath of the Wild is post-Ocarina of Time, post-Twilight Princess, and post-Wind Waker, so if we're returning to floating islands, perhaps we're returning to where it all started.
Remember that gross arm from the first teaser trailer? What if that's the first Link's arm? What if Link gets possessed by... his own arm, from the past? It's all very Adventure Time season 6, if you ask us. Maybe it's even a timeloop... and we're doomed to repeat the death and birth of Hyrule, forever. The key word there being "maybe".
So, the answer is: we don't know yet. It seems like there's going to be some kind of gravity-play in Breath of the Wild 2, and mayyyyybe some kind of time-play too, but we just won't know for a LONG time. Listen, if you didn't want several hundred words of meaningless speculation, you shouldn't have clicked on the speculative title! We know as much as you do at this point!
What are your running theories based on that trailer so far? Get speculatin' in the comments!
@Bizaster an N, you say? takes notes
Would be nice if it was a sequel to both Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess. So seeing what’s happened to the floating islands in the years since SS and then that weird ass music makes me think of the Twilight realm which would be cool to catch up with. That being said, you’d think they’d have more to show after the time we’ve waited. At least with Metroid they have another game to fill the gap.
I think the arm has been infused with Sheikah Slate Abilities since that seems to be what was being shown in the trailer.
Alls I knows is that whatever is going on, it’s going to be WEIRD ZELDA a la Awakening and Majora’s Mask and that’s a very big plus in my book:)
There's a lot of crazy stuff in the trailer. I'm excited to see what GameXplain finds when they do their usual closer look
I suspect that the arm can manipulate time. And that the sky world exists in the same time and place as the rest of the game just could potentially have been brought in from elsewhen.
Noticed the backwards music right away, assumed it meant time travel, and the floating islands do like Skyward Sword, which coincidentally or not is being re-released soon, so that all makes sense.
Also, doesn't HW:AoC rewrite the timeline? I know that may be spoilers for a lot of people - I'm halfway through myself - so we probably shouldn't get into it but I was assuming the backwards music was rewriting the timeline from BotW to HW:AOC?
Regardless, I'm not a "canon timeline" guy, as long as it's good, and it looks good. 👍
Are we getting the Hyrule and Lorule again? Only the Lorule is the HigherHyrule.
Can't wait for next year's E3 when they announce BotW 2 for late 2023.
@Bizaster Sounds concrete haha!
The person with long hair is Link. You can tell based off the blue earing, strange hand, and the fact that the tunic exposes a part of their chest, which.. would be concerning for a Zelda game if that were Zelda.
The part where Link appears to travel through rock like a water droplet seems interesting.
I hope they took awhile to make this to incorporate the timeline of age of calamity. I feel like maybe some time jumps will be involved or simply places from hyrules past will show up in the sky. My stretch theory is something is clinging on to link to stay alive. Maybe possessing the triforce of power. Showing how desperate Ganon is getting. I’m sure it will be cooler lol
@Thwomp_Stomper The arm could possibly be clinging onto Link to keep itself alive and to keep Link alive, give that he lost his arm due to Ganondorf's Malice.
I'm not sure which one's I'll believe, but they'll all be interesting. Should make the Zelda theories community fresh for a few months.
I love how people don’t pay attention in class.
The floating islands are all bits of Hyrule that have been ripped off and suspended in the sky. There is no time travel involved and it’s not Skyward Sword.
It was a bad trailer. The ooze is back but there’s no real danger or promise of exploration. No strong message like the trailer for the first game. I’m sure the mechanics are solid.
Somehow I am always surprised by what the Zelda team manages to come up with despite them being one of the most consistent developers around, these guys are masters of game design.
I’m with Kate, they hide Link’s face a lot in the trailer so somethings up.
@RadioHedgeFund They don't really suggest that either. I'm not really a fan of the "Time Travel" theory, but it's possible that these islands were always there, if they're above the cloud barrier. Ganondorf could've possibly pierced through said barrier, and there could be a return to Skyloft.
It's odd how this sequel has to do with exploring the sky, when Skyward Sword HD is being released this year.
I hope we continue to play as Link.
But it would be cool for Zelda to be more involved. BotW really made me emotionally attached to her character (great voice acting!)
This is not Game of Thrones, it is a series of Zelda games that are really not connected. And I don't believe botw2 is NOT ready, it's been held back for reasons Nintendo are not saying. I've said before, this is a game made for a new Switch, so you won't see the game until you see the new Switch. And that could be in up to two years away. Nintendo find it hard to juggle more than two balls at a time, so as the new Switch arrives the old one will be phased out.
Time travel, possible Skyward Sword connections, Link can ghost through floors, Links crusty arm...
...so Link is going to end up as the hand in the toilet asking for paper?
So where are the horses, do we get that bike thing as well xx
wow. Nintendo had one of the best e3s ever. and this was icing on the cake. 2022 is going to be just as great as 2021. cannot wait to see what else is coming.
@zool No, it's for the normal switch. If you watch the trailer, they show actual gameplay. They aren't just going to say "2022", then push it back because "New Switch".
Edit: Also, how was the Switch Pro reveal that you said was going to happen?
I liked the new water drop ability.
@MrGawain This is the most legit theory yet!
Please let's not go through this again. It's just Link, just look at the arm. If it was Zelda we would've known by now.
I hope you get to play as Zelda.
@VoidofLight can you honestly name a Nintendo AAA game, to be released before Christmas? One we were not already aware of. (I would not count Metroid 5).
Or even any big third party games.
Are Nintendo not making them or are they holding back on them?
Yes a new BotW will have an HD version for the Switch and a 4k for the new machine. Just like they did for botw 1.
I hope the dry dead dude is Agahnim, I miss that guy and he's an awesome villain.
@zool Metroid is their holiday game. It's silly not to count it, as it's a AAA game that's being developed by Nintendo. Just because you may not care for Metroid doesn't make it any less of a holiday title.
Also, your logic is like saying "Skyward Sword is going to Release both on the Wii and Wii U, since that's what they did with Twilight Princess before!". Just because the game's a sequel doesn't mean it's going to follow the same situation.
Also, again I ask you this: How was that Switch Pro announcement you were so sure about? Surely it happened at e3 like you said, right?
I was really hoping BOTW2 would not just make Zelda a damsel in distress for the 879,234th time.
Ideally, I'd love for HER to be the one saving Link, for once, with you playing as Zelda.
Another option would be to play as both of them at different points during the game, or even be able to switch between them at will.
It's a sequel to BOTW so we know it's going to be at least a solid "good". But if Zelda herself is playable for at least a big portion of the game, that would be a huge win in my book.
But I would even settle for her not being directly playable, but being a support character fighting alongside Link in some fashion. I'm just so insanely tired of saving damsels in distress. It's 2021, stop treating women like it's still 1861.
@Octane Not to mention the tunic is exposing part of Link's chest. If it were Zelda, they'd probably have something wrapped around the back in order to keep her from having a bare chest..+
@zool what on earth are you basing this nonsense on exactly? The original BotW was held back because Nintendo were rushing the release of their next console in the wake of the floundering Wii U and wanted BotW to be a launch game for the new console, in no world are Nintendo planning on doing the same whilst the Switch is selling as fast as it currently is selling. You're talking complete claptrap.
@RadioHedgeFund where did they say no time travel was in this game? Did I miss it? We are speculating for the sake of the article. We know barely anything else story wise. And wouldn’t hyrule just have massive craters of old land plots? Anyone’s guess man.
To me the game looks as lifeless as the first
Why do people still go for all these rumors? It's stupid. Just wait until Nintendo unveils more about the game.
I just want playable Zelda!
@CheekyZelda Doesn't seem like that is going to be the case.
Who cares? I can't believe people are losing their minds over some boring looking DLC that's gonna take 5 years to come out. I just want Nintendo to release that stuff and be over with this whole Breath of the Wild nightmare so we can finally get a good ZELDA game.
Not gonna happen so reconsider your position on what 3D Zelda used to be before they made a game that actually resembled the spirit of the original Zelda.
Just want to point out that the hero of men (lore of minish cap) had long hair https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda/images/9/97/The_Minish_Cap_Prologue_%28Part_4%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20091007024608
There was some mentions the team wanted to bring the minish in the first game. Curious is this hint of such desire
I can't wait for The Legend of Zelda: Organized Crime, the much anticipated follow up to The Legend of Zelda: Special Victims Unit.
@Kevember Lmao salty
Sorry for u 😩
Its interesting that link has two different hair styles in the trailer.
Any time they are around sky islands link has the long or upbraided hair.
Any time they seem to be on the ground he has the little pony tail going on instead.
I would suspect something involving two characters or two realities is at play. The hair might be a factor to help differentiate the two.
So, Bokoblins grow into Moblins, right?
Leave it to the Zelda [Pikmin] team to come up with that and then portray it.
My personal theory what with the backwards music and such is that nintendo wishes to screw with the timeline once again, having it form a loop where BotW Link resets time to the days when the goddesses formed the islands in the sky and turns everything back to square one. Don't know how that'd really work tho, guess the closest comparison would be that Neon Genesis Evangelion movie but less sad.
@Heavyarms55 I'd rather have them do a separate ''Zelda'' game in that case. I'm personally not a big fan of switching characters in a game, especially in an adventure game. I was kinda glad when I learned that you'll only be playing as Star Lord in Guardians. Having Zelda as a companion character could work, but then the game really needs full on voice acting at all times, and dialogue between the two.
While a playable Zelda would be the piece of resistance, I'm not getting my hopes up for it. Keeping my expectations in check. However, I do very much hope that her role is much larger and more interesting here then it was in BOTW. I started playing Age of Calamity last week and just having Zelda around and be an active contributor to the story is already making me enjoy that game that much more.
@VoidofLight yes you are right I was expecting a new Switch announcement, with a release date, even for next Easter. I still maintain that BotW2 is a launch title for a new console and I guess an announcement for that could now be next year since 2022 has been suggested for BotW 2.
I'm talking about BotW 1 which was launched simultaneously on the Wii u and the Switch, the same will happen with BotW 2. Simultaneously on both the Switch and new console.
Metroid is not a big franchise, although a welcome one for some gamers, and I guess it will sell reasonably well because of the, so far, lack of choice.
@zool Again, BotW 2 launching on a new console and regular switch is using the same logic as “Skyward Sword is gonna launch on the Wii and Wii U because Twilight Princess launched on both the gamecube and wii!”. The games used as examples aren’t me saying you’re literally saying that, but rather that’s the same flawed logic.
Also, Metroid isn’t a big franchise, but neither has been WarioWare, and yet that’s counted as a big release for this year.
@Otoemetry and you are talking as though you have inside information about Nintendo's marketing strategy, rather than just giving your opinion.
'Claptrap' suggests you don't have opinions.
@zool you're a fool if you think the successor to Switch will come this early in its lifecycle considering its current sales trajectory, no way would Nintendo want to kill off sales to release something which might not be a success.
All the rumours of an upgraded Switch "pro" haven't materialised so far, which leads me to believe it will just be another revision which will supplant the v2.
@zool everything you've said made out like you were talking about a Switch successor, maybe try harder to explain yourself properly so people don't get the wrong end of the stick. Fool.
@Dragonslacker1 Elden Ring stole all the horses
Seeing Link's arm makes me think of Star Wars.
In an alternate universe, maybe Zelda is Link's sister and the new boss could be Link's father!
It’s obvious Demise is coming back, that’s why Skyward Sword is getting re released to remind you it got crushed
Am I the only one noticing there's long nails on what seems to be Link's hand at 0:43 from the official trailer? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi-MRZBP91I) If this in fact Zelda, then what does it mean? We're playing both? Playing only Zelda? (that would be a change!)
@Octane "but then the game really needs full on voice acting at all times, and dialogue between the two."
You say that like it would be a bad thing. I have been tired of silent protagonists since like 2004. Nintendo could absolutely put the work in and make both of them great. It's long overdue as far as I'm concerned.
I'm not sure why everybody is surprised by Link's "new" long hair style. He had hair that long in BOTW too, it was just tied up at the back. You could see how long it was at the back when he wore the guardian helmet.
Think about how long Eren Yeager's hair was before he tied it at the back too.
@Heavyarms55 Yeah, that's the point, they could, but they won't.
My theory is that it’ll be about fighting the elements. Or that we will be able to control the elements. Water, fire, air, earth. All are shown very specifically in the trailer. Earthly tomb. Flying in the sky. Fire hand / flamethrower. Drop of water. And that we’ll be able to play with the flow of time. Just as in ocarina of time, but then wherever we want.
The Legend of Zelda: Time of the Elements? Elemental Flow?
Edit: maybe two parallel worlds, where you get to play with Link ánd Zelda? Zelda in the Dark pit, Link in the sky and on the surface? Mechanic similar to Resident Evil Zero?
Edit 2: isn’t the arm more or less the same arm as the one from midna? That would confirm a twilight world?
@nessisonett there’s been a pandemic in the mean time. A lot of people on here seem to forget that time period.
And it’s still going on in Japan. So you can substract at least half a year of development time in between the first teaser and this trailer imo.
@Friendly Except that doesn’t really fly when so many games have come and gone in the meantime. Games like Ratchet & Clank and Returnal were in development for less time and primarily during the pandemic.
@zool i can name a lot of AAA games being released on switch before christmas.
If you mean DLC filled pay to win games as a service game, no. And I’m glad those are not coming. But seriously, monster hunter stories 2, mario party, mario golf, smt V, pokemon, metroid, zelda skyward sword are all AAA games... and wario ware and advance wars probably more or less AA. There’s plenty coming.
@nessisonett you honestly have no idea when development for Ratchet and Clank started. Could have been 2011 for all you know. And what about the budget?
Also, those companies are not Japanese, are they? Completely different working ethos.
And are you seriously comparing Returnal, a roguelike game to an open world game like Zelda? You must know that development times for these games are completely different. Starfield has been in development for 10 years already... and don’t let me start on cyberpunk...
Way too many apples and oranges...
@Friendly Breath of the Wild 2 is also working with existing assets. If anything it’s unfair on the other two games to compare it to this game’s development.
@nessisonett because ratchet and clank doesn’t run on the same engine as spider man.
@Friendly it was just Nintendo games I was referring to, mentioned in the direct for the first time. Zelda and Mario Golf were announced last month. I've pre-ordered Golf.
Monster Hunter is not Nintendo, and old games given a face lift can't be considered AAA, can they.
@Friendly Ratchet & Clank is fundamentally different to Spider-Man. That’s like saying Death Stranding uses existing assets because it uses the Decima engine. Or Breath of the Wild because it uses the Havok engine. Breath of the Wild 2 has an entire code base to work from and will no doubt reuse a lot of the physics and animation code. Yes, it will have new content but blaming COVID at this point is just an excuse given that games are being seen releasing fully with development times impacted even more by COVID. Trying to pass it off as a Japanese thing is a bizarre weeaboo mentality, it’s not like they use different tools or even development methodologies these days from Western developers. Nintendo, sure. All Japanese developers, not at all.
@zool I answered your question which was ‘ can you honestly name a Nintendo AAA game, to be released before Christmas?
And there’s tons of games. Or do you want them to canabilize their own sales by releasing even more games? There’s almost two exclusives each month...
@nessisonett you have no idea what the next zelda game will use as mechanics and how much time building that engine takes them. As a reference, the last Zelda received almost only perfect scores because of its new never done before mechanics. And the Zelda team doesn’t want to do the same again. They never do.
Oh, and do you remember the E3 presence of the other Japanese companies, Square Enix, Capcom, Bandai Namco?
Yeah, neither do I.
Apples and big fluffy oranges mate. Stop it. And be happy with what you’ve got cause it’s way more than what I was expecting after last and current year.
Oh, and another reason the trailer wasn’t bigger: marketing. building the hype. Cause if you show too much too soon the only way is down. You want to give snippets, more and larger the closer you get to release. Look into how they did that with Mario Odyssey, where they first showed ‘a’ 3D Mario in the switch reveal video, then the title Mario Odyssey in the january direct, then cappy and the dinosaur and the music and the release date and everything in the E3 trailer in 2017. Build the hype.
@nessisonett also, how about that halo release window? And god of war? And horizon zero dawn? Gran turismo?
Even returnal got delayed btw because of covid....
oh, and remember that ratchet and clank was a ‘PS5 release window game’, yet it got released a few weeks ago. That’s not the release window anymore.
So I don’t see any argument left to be honest... covid impacted this business just like it impacted any other business.
@Friendly a games list is subjective. There is nothing on the list from Nintendo I want to spend money on. We knew about Golf so that was not really part of the Direct.
Is one a month almost two month? Or are you trying to make the list sound better than it is.
If you call Metroid 5 an AAA game, ok, it certainly will be priced as an AAA, but I would stop at AA.
@zool it sure is subjective. And there are a lot of games on the horizon this year. Nintendo switch exclusives. Most of which Nintendo developed or publishes.
If nothing suits your specific needs that’s on you I guess. There’s a ton of fanservice for apparantly not you, but for other Nintendo Switch players. Nintendo delivered this time.
Metroid is a AAA game. From what I know: AAA games is a slang term, not a formal classification. But generally AAA games are developed or published by mid-sized or major publishers, it’s not just about budget. Sony and Microsoft release AAAA games once in a while. Every few years. And so does Nintendo (BotW, Odyssey) I think you’re just using a different definition perhaps.
The time travel theory sounds interesting, but I'm wishing for ideas never used before on a Zelda game, no matter how demanding they seem. With Link's new right arm, the ideas look unlimited!
I hope they release more trailers soon. The fact that a simple trailer already sparked a lot of theories, imagine how many will surge the more they reveal...
ALREADY??!??! That was quick.. . . . . . .
Im not sure, whats the big Christmas release for Nintendo?
2D Metroid and Mario Party?
I surely hope they will surprise us with a new direct and present a more general appealing.
And about Zelda, as longer Nintendo Teams take making Games as better they get. Thats not really helpful for us waiting for it, but at least we will be able to play it over and over again.
@Friendly Nintendo are aiming at the new generation of gamers, the Switch Lite and those that did not buy a Wii U, but have since bought the Original Switch.
I (and many others) don't play Pokémon, or Mario Party, let alone an old N64 Mario party, and we have bought and played most of the ported games from the Wii u days.
But to the new Generation of gamers, every game is new. There is very little new AAA Nintendo games for their long term loyal gamers. I rely on third party games.
But the topic is about 'speculation' and my reply was that the AAA games Iike BotW are being held back until a new Switch version is released. Which explains the lack of decent games for those that have been with Nintendo for the longest time.
I wonder what the area that the Shrine of Resurrection was located at is going to look like in the sequel. They have to at least show the door closed in the sequel... making it the only Sheikah structure that cannot be removed, since it is the only Sheikah structure built into the wall of a cliff.
@zool yes, it’s the curse of any publisher really.
‘I don’t play x or y so where is my z game at? There’s nothing to play.’
Microsoft hasn’t published anything noteworthy the last year. Their last game was state of decay 2, a port from windows, 2nd of December. Sony published just a few games in the last 8 months. And if you don’t like action games there’s absolutely nothing noteworthy 1st party published on those two platforms in a year.
It’s the curse of Nintendo for having so many fan favorite franchises. I get what you mean, I also would have liked a brand new Mario Odyssey 2 or F-Zero reboot. But not being satisfied what is on offer if there’s a lot of different platters is a you-thing in my opinion. Not a Nintendo-problem. They can’t always cater to everybody.
@Friendly Retiring the 3DS was a blessing and a curse. Game cards fit both Switches, game sale totals will be higher, and production costs will be lower and of course gaming on the go.
But there were more Nintendo games available between the two consoles.
But I guess it is what it is. I might give Stadia another go, we recently got ultra fast broadband installed in our area.
@zool i agree that there were a lot of smaller games published by nintendo on those systems.
But which type of games, or which game series in general, are you missing from the wii u / 3ds era? Which one do you want to see more of that you’re not receiving now?
Nintendo has already sold more software for the switch than those two systems combined btw. https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/hard_soft/index.html
@Zool I was just watching Arlo’s commentary on the direct. Have a quick look at the segment after the 14:30 minute mark. This is what I mean with ‘it was a fan service direct’ https://youtu.be/kRITVh6N7lA
@Friendly I did watch Arlo yesterday and while I was a fan of his I no longer watch him regularly. That excitement in his voice was a little over the top: unless he ment it to be over the top because that's what Arlo does. But I don't think he was. He seems to be less critical because he now receives codes to preview some games. (He doesn't review many because he says he doesn't have the time).
OkMetroid is a game I would pick up if I am really short of something to play.
The real issue is that Nintendo has a bigger and wider consumer base than it did 10 years ago, they no longer just wants platform, racing, party and shooting games, the range has got a lot bigger and includes multi player as well. But not every gamer wants to play every type of game, and with Nintendo's limited output of games per year it will never please everyone, unless you are a gamer that enjoys most everything Nintendo release.
'What games do I want to see more of'......
Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, Yoshi, Fire Emblem (and beyond the Wiiu, games like Waverace, 1080⁰ Snowboarding, Pilotwings.)
But Nintendo's expanded list of genres means that it can't meet the demand. At the moment and with the Switch Lite doing well, Nintendo is all about party games, family games, multi player games.
What is significant about 29 May 2014?
That is when the last Mario Kart game was released.
Maybe by touching Ganon's, link got infected and Ganon's evil is slowly taking over his body. And the apparatus on his arm prevents further infection. That could explain Link's decaying arm.
Maybe the apparatus on his arm is Zonai technology and it fused with the sheikah slate. Which gave him Zonai powers as well as Sheikah powers.
I believe the islands in the sky are just bits from Hyrule. Who knows, they all might be Zonai temples which have been buried underground.
I think Link's hairstyle just changes depending on what outfit he's wearing, just like in Breath of the Wild. His hairstyle often changed depending on what headpiece he was wearing. Compare how he looks wearing the Desert Voe Headband, Stealth Mask, or Snowquill Headdress or how his hair changes when he wears one of the Classic Link Caps (Cap of Twilight, Cap of Time, etc.).
Really love his new outfits! I wonder what other new abilities he'll get. It will be interesting to see what happens to Zelda, too.
@Bulborb Tbh dual worlds were a bit thing the series tried to play upon in both A Link to the Past(the World of Light/the corrupted Sacred Realm, aka the Dark World), Ocarina of Time(Young Link era/Adult Link era, switched between using time travel).
A Link Between World was just an echo of A Link to the Past in that regard.
I'd also argue that while there's only three games with dual worlds, almost all others also tried to draw from that concept in ways that made me suspect they tried to implement it but ran out of time/development resources or encountered technical limitations(even Ocarina had stuff that encountered limitations: they originally intended to have travel between young/adult era as smooth as dimension travel of A Link to the Past, but coordinates stuff proved to be harder to do in 3D so instead they worked through more fixed portals).
Wind Waker had the Great Sea but implied the entire realm of Hyrule slumbered under it's waves... which we do get to but sadly the version seen is just a glorified road from Hyrule Castle to Ganon's Tower. I suspect it was planned to be larger but had to be cut down to the version we got.
Twillight Princess tried to play on the idea of another dimension hard with the Twillight, but seeing as in that game it's applied as more of an "overlay" to the world which can then be "cleansed" and getting to the actual Twillight Realm is a trip limited just to the royal castle or such... again I suspect a development hurdle happened or that plans were made to make the game shorter(games before Wind Waker/Twillight were notable for the sheer amount of dungeons in them).
Skyward Sword... well, it's obvious the Sky and Surface are meant to be two separate "world" in a fashion, and I recall hearing the Surface was originally meant to be much larger(i.e.: original plans sounded like a proto-BOTW, albeit with traditional progression formula) but iirc they'd encountered tech/performance issues on the Wii that prevented them from making a game of the scale they originally intended.
It sounds like that the BOTW sequel might try to bring a dual "worlds" mechanic back but this time, in real rather than just thematic. Especially looking at Link's upward "dive" and the different outfits he seem to always been shown wearing in the sky sequences(I'm starting to suspect that "Surface Link" and "Sky Link" might literally have their own set of gears indepedent from each others... since Sky Link's gear is different in some scenes but always keep that "sky" thematic)
@Hyrule_Rainclouds I do suspect it's "just" Link in the Sky, but the fact his clothes are always different there from shots shown on the surface make me suspect that both "Surface" and "Sky" Link will be forced to make use of different gears.
Also I suspect the sky is not "just" the sky but I'm not ready to say it involves time travel as others are thinking. If anything, it gives me more of an "invisible sacred realm" vibe, and a lot of the "Sacred Realm of the Triforce" talk in past games implied that it looks like islands floating in the skies(though said sky was implied to still be quite otherworldly in A Link to the Past even before it's corruption into the Dark World), something A Link Between Worlds even play a bit upon when we get a glimpse of the Sacred Realm in the epilogue if I recall.
So if I have a main suspicion, is that BOTW's sequel might bring the Triforce back to the forefront of the story after it's strange absence in the original BOTW where it was present only in imagery and (very indirectly) through the fact there are springs of courage/wisdom/power(the "virtues" associated with the Triforce).
The Hyrule world as it is, is somewhat bound to the elements we know from our real life and are already containing a magic touch in the sense that you can control iron, create ice, move earth, teleport, control time, etc. But for real difference in puzzle dynamics you have to come up with different worlds where it feels right in that world. Changing into a wolf, become miniature, become a painting. That also supplies a different society and environment that players can relate to or have to bring together. Alita, Astroboy are examples of that society dynamic.
@Ludovsky I agree with you! That makes a lot of sense! I think you're right, and the "Sky Outfit" probably has special abilities that help Link as he traverses the sky between sky islands. Kind of like how the Climbing Gear Set or Zora Set or Snowquill Set, etc. give you special abilities in Breath of the Wild (BotW). Really looking forward to all the new items, clothing/gear sets, abilities, etc. I really like Sky Link's look, so I may end up wearing that outfit for most of the game. I usually wear the Snowquill set in BotW as that's my favorite.
I'm not sure what to say, whether there's time travel involved or you visit another dimension/world. It'll be interesting to see when we get the game. I hope we get underground areas as well, not just sky ones, and that scene with the dragon flamethrower makes me think we will. It'd be cool if we could explore underwater, too.
Bill Trinen, I think, from Nintendo of America, gave an interview saying they've decided on the subtitle for this game but don't want to announce it yet because they feel it's too spoilery. I was thinking it had the word "Time" in the title, but maybe it's "Sky" or "Triforce" or something else? Wonder what it'll be called.
@Hyrule_Rainclouds I mean, most of my comment re: time/dimension travel was that a lot of people were implying the "sky" was somehow set in the "past" of Hyrule which... I kinda doubt.
However the way Link is shown accessing the sky reminds me of the mechanics of past Zelda games which had their world set in a dual dimension of sort(light/dark world, past/future, etc) and the way they've recurently tried to echo that theme but couldn't always do so for technical reason.
But the seeming seamlessness of travel between surface and sky in the trailer, and the differing outfits that seem exclusive to either locations make me suspect we may indeed see a return to that mechanic of having two "worlds"(from a mechanic sense, but both the skies and surface seem to act as distincts fully realized open worlds) to explore so to speak.
The title stuff definitely has me veeeeeeery curious however and indeed if Triforce(or even stuff like the goddesses that have always been tied to it) is somehow included I could see why that could be a major spoiler.
Also gosh, thanks for pointing out the flamethrower scene seem to be shown in an underground environment as well. I didn't catch on that, but it's true that "undergrounds" could be a perfect excuse to add furthermore weird monsters.
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