Nintendo's freshly released yearly financial report has various interesting details, and in terms of the Nintendo Switch there's confirmation of another major milestone. With total sales of the Switch family now sitting at 84.59 million, it's passed the lifetime total of Game Boy Advance (81.5 million).
It's another notable leap, and Nintendo shifted 28.83 million Switch units over the last year.
All of this means Switch is currently Nintendo's fourth best-selling console, behind the Wii (101.6 million), Game Boy (118.7 million), and DS (154 million).
As mentioned last time out with financial results, the phenomenal sales of the Switch should be considered in the context that it's a hybrid device, covering both the home console and portable markets for Nintendo. Of course, as we've seen, consolidating all of its hardware efforts into one family of systems has been hugely profitable for the company.
Those hardware sales, meanwhile, represented a jump from 21.03 million, the figure for the financial year that ended in March 2020. As a result it's a new high for the system, which is unsurprising considering the increased demand that the pandemic drove for the broader gaming industry; of that figure, 20.32 million were the standard Switch model, while 8.51 million Switch Lite consoles were sold.
As for next year, the company is targeting 25.5 million hardware sales, a drop that may reflect a decline in broader sales as the global pandemic eases in various territories. Nintendo has also cited "the procurement of parts, including the increase in global demand for semiconductor components" as a potential issue that could affect production.
It's still a bold figure, so of course that'll lead to speculation around major game releases and potentially a 'Nintendo Switch Pro' iteration, but Nintendo has made no announcements on either prospect as yet.
So there you have it, another monster year for Switch. Let us know what you think in the comments below.
[source nintendo.co.jp]
Comments 71
Wow, so it will easily pass the Wii and Gameboy life time sales. It's probably already passed the PS3 (87m)...Can it reach the DS/PS2?
Sounds like it will easily overtake the wii then which really is incredible
Switch seems to have momentum still- unit sales well up on the same quarter last year. It would be surprising if it doesn't pass Game Boy lifetime sales, and with this momentum, DS is in sight.
Absolutely insane how Nintendo has consistently sustained demand for the Switch for four years and counting. I think the pandemic and the launch of ACNH actually boosted their sales in a weird way and gave the console’s financial success a new lease of life and with regular software and a hopeful Pro on the way, it should continue and surpass the Wii’s sales numbers which many were sceptical about.
Dooooooomed!
Love it, and long may it continue. I was playing DOOM Eternal last night on the TV and to me it looks fantastic, with rock solid performance. The Switch is a very capable machine and a pro would be awesome to get closer to the current gen systems, but there’s no doubt it can pull off some magic.
@mauhlin12
Not just doomed.
Nintendoooooomed!!!
I'm expecting ~150+ Million in lifetime sales for the system and honestly hope it's 2023 before we see a Switch Pro.
All these folks wanting an upgraded system, I ask...with what? We haven't seen major chip upgrades yet in the space the Switch operates beyond maybe upscaling titles to 4k at significant cost/heat generation.
The tech isn't ready for an upgrade yet.
@NintendoWiiDS,
Sure the pandemic helped, but the console has been in demand since launch, and as the years go buy the momentum increases, especially in the first 5 years or so, and the more consoles out there lead to more visibility for the product.
That's why there was pretty much no solution for the Wii U, as apart from a decent launch it just ran out of steam way too early.
@jrb363,
I think it can overtake the PS2 as the best selling console ever, it looks on course for 30 million sales this financial year, as long as Nintendo can keep up with production, and as you say the Switch pro is just ages off, a slight console revision on the other hand looks very likely.
just over 15 million away to 100 million
How dare it... I love the GBA. Long live GBA!
Comparing the total Switch unit sales to total 3DS (75,94) plus Wii U (13,56) shows us that it's just about to surpass their total sales (89,5). Even if there are problems making such a comparison, it is still very interesting.
As for software sales, which are maybe more interesting from a financial point of view, the Switch has surpassed the total sales of the Wii U and 3DS by just under 100 million (587-490), which really shows that Nintendo has come out better than it was during the last gen.
I do however believe the Switch will never be able to surpass the DS and Wii in combined total sales for hardware and software, but taken both indiviually it does stand a chance, moreso in terms of consoles sold than total software sales (around 930 million each).
Another interesting fact is that the Switch just surpassed the total combined GBA and GC (586 vs 587). even if the combined number of hardware units of the GBA and GC still is some ways to go (103,25), I do believe it will surpass this along with the Wii within this next fiscal year.
Nintendoomed! As in Nintendo has doomed my wallet ! Along with 84.59 million other wallets.
At this rate the Switch will definetly pass the Wii by the end of its lifespan and saying the same for the Gameboy is a safe bet to I feel.
However, I don't think it'll be able to pass the DS. It would need to essentially double its current, four-year, sales figure and I don't see that happening even with a potential Switch Pro.
@F_T_Wolf Maybe a price drop of the Switch lite to 100-150 euro would help. And the standard Switch for 250.
@jrb363 There is newer tech - Nvidia released the original Tegra X1 back in 2015. Since then they've released two new models - the X2 and the Xavier (not counting the X1+ that went into the Lite and later homeheld Switches). The current Xavier would represent a worthwhile update if used in the rumoured Switch Plus, running in the same ballpark wattage wise. If Nintendo did produce something like that I could see them keeping momentum for a couple more years and potentially matching your expectations of 150m sales.
@sanderev
I don't think that'll be enough. Doubling you sales numbers is a tall order and even with boosts such as a new model and a cheaper price I think a successor will rear its head before it can do so.
@F_T_Wolf I don't think you're numbers are quite right there. 155m - 84.59m - 25.5 (target for this year) = 44.91m
So, if they hit this years target, they would need to sell 22.5m in the each of the following 2 years to be the best selling console of all time.
If they hit the target this year, to be the best selling console in 4 years, they would have to sell 15m units in each of the following 3 years.
At this point, something significant will have to happen for it NOT to get past 155m.
Looking forward to Sony fans moving those goal posts once it beats the PS4
Great news!
85m plus this years sales easily do over 101m
They just need to sort the line up!
We know we got 2 lots of pokemon but come on and get Metroid fixed, and Zelda and Bayonetta launched,
Milestones:
> Nintendo shipped 28.83 million units of Switch hardware during FY2020, which is the 3rd highest annual hardware sales ever for any game system ever, only behind Nintendo DS shipments during FY2007 and FY2008 (30.31 million units and 31.19 million units respectively).
> Nintendo shipped 230.88 million copies of Switch software during FY2020, which is the highest annual software sales ever for any Nintendo platform.
> Nintendo shipped 54.78 million copies of Switch software during FY2020 Q4, which is highest non-holiday quarter of software sales ever for any Nintendo platform.
> At 587.12 million copies shipped, total Switch software sales have exceeded the total GBA + GCN software sales combined.
On those numbers the Switch is currently the 9th best selling console of all time, just a small shade under the 360. If they hit that 25mill target over the next year (which is fairly conservative given they did 29mill this year) they'll jump to 5th overtaking the 360, PS3, Wii and PS.
At that point overtaking the PS4 and GameBoy would be a rounding error almost. I think it's fair to say that the Switch will end up, at the very least, being the 3rd best selling console of all time. Only behind the DS and PS2.
@MarioBrickLayer
I don't think they'll hit those target numbers. Not only do I expect the shortages in components to play a role but stronger competition and more Switch's entering the 2nd hand market at a reasonable price (should an upgraded model come out which is likely).
Plus: Nintendo themselves set that the Switch was in the latter half of its life last year. That'll give them those three years you talk about, true, but a successor will have reared its head by that point. Its announcement alone will negatively impact Switch sales (especially if it has backwards compatibility).
I wouldn't mind being wrong but I really don't see the Switch overcoming the DS without Nintendo holding of on a successor, thus extending its lifespan.
Crazy to think the Wii and PS4 were considered nearly unheard of milestones for the Switch to surpass when it first came out. Now it's looking like when it'll outsell thoe platforms rather than if. Well deserved sales imo and such a turnaround from the Wii U.
@F_T_Wolf
As a counter point, if the Switch Pro is still a Switch and not a full on successor that would drive sales not supress them.
Think about it. If I upgrade to a Switch Pro? That's an additional sale. Lets say I then sell my current Switch, at most that negates that additional sale. But not everyone will sell their current Switch. And not all used sales are lost sales.
A Switch Pro Upgrade sale is a "net sale" of between 0 and 1. So it, mathematically, would only increase sales. Assuming it counts as a Switch.
@AmplifyMJ I agree. I mean for it's size and being a hybrid, it's fantastic. Go look at the shear amount of gameplay, graphics and cut scenes in Dragon Quest XI S.
I didn't hear no bell.
The Switch has outsold both the GBA and PSP. It will soon outsell the Xbox 360 and PS3, likely by June or July.
The Switch should then comfortably outsell the Wii and PS1 before the end of 2021. Nintendo's forecast is that the Switch reached 110 million units sold by March 2022.
@skywake
A Switch Pro will absolutely count as a Switch, much like how the GBC, NDSi, New 3DS, PS4 Pro, and Xbox One X were counted as a GB, NDS, 3DS, PS4, and Xbox One respectively.
I think it can sell really good if they play thier cards right with the Switch pro. They don't need to rush out with a new console like they have had to do with the other generations.
They can wait 3-4 years with a whole new console since the switch is selling good. With the problems of semiconductor and production, there's no need to release a new console to early. It could still effect the switch production, but they don't need to rush anything since they for the most now days can keep up with the demands. And many already have a switch. It's worse for Sony with the playstation 5.
The switch will also still sell consoles even when a new generation have arrived. Not much, but could be at least a couple of millions to push them up to the throne.
That's one gangbusters post wii u recovery. Most impressive.
I think what we need now is a switch 2 thats backwards compatible. So just soup it up big time at the 5 year mark.
@westman98
We don't know what the rumoured Switch Pro is yet with 100% confidence. I mean at this point it's almost surely not a successor and that it's not long a way so I think it's fair to say it'll boost Switch sales. But we don't know for sure yet.
@skywake
Well yeah, I'm working under the assumption that the Switch Pro is a Switch Pro and not a Switch 2.
@johnvboy I totally agree as I said that the Switch’s sales have been impressively consistent for four years and beyond. The pandemic essentially added a bit more fuel to an already raging fire and software sales grew at an even faster rate as more played at home. Nintendo attracted consumers with an innovative hybrid model and sustained their interest with new bundles, software and the Switch Lite presenting an even more accessible point of entry as a dedicated handheld
@NintendoWiiDS,
It always seems unfair when some suggest the only reason for the Switch and software success was the pandemic, like you said it has not hurt the situation but still only a small impact on a already impressive sales performance.
I have 3 GBA's (original, SP and Micro), still on my first Switch (got 2 at launch and gave one to my brother), so the sales are impressive. Alot of households i bet have more than 1 Switch once they "buy in".
That is some doom for Nintendoom....
Seriously though that is crazy
Not surprised, but this is still a nice milestone all the same! Maybe to celebrate, Nintendo can start adding portable retro games (GB/GBC/GBA) to Nintendo Switch Online?
@mauhlin12 since 1889.
@jrb363 That's right bro. The Switch doesn't need an upgrade, or a successor yet. Is only a very tiny and annoying part of the Nintendo fandom that wants that to happen. Nintendo knows very well that doing that will kill the momentum of the console. I also see 2023 as the year when Nintendo will introduce a new console.
@hashkey Another thing people don’t seem to notice, the game boy life time sales are along side the game boy color, and it only says 117 million because Nintendo smushed the combined sales together and never said the individual sales.
@johnvboy I agree with all that. The Switch has obviously been tremendously successful since day one and I didn’t say it was the only reason at all: adding a little more fuel to the great fire. But further sales increases to already impressive commercial performances did occur particularly in software but also with consoles during the pandemic and I don’t think ACNH would have sold beyond 20 million units that quickly in a normal situation, though it still would’ve sold like gangbusters. The main reasons for the Switch’s sustained success have been regular releases of compelling software and an innovative way to play with the system’s hybrid format.
Keep this up for another 3 years and it will easily surpass PS2 worldwide lifetime sales. If Switch beat PS2 in 6 years, it will take PS5 12 years to beat Switch since it took PS2 10 years to reach that milestone.
@NintendoWiiDS,
Sorry for the confusion, I never thought that is what you said, I know you were agreeing with my comment, I was aiming the last comment at other people on these comment sections.
@skywake @westman98 This is Nintendo we're talking about, what if they name the "next gen" Switch the Switch Pro? They named the NES successor the Super NES, and I'm pretty sure we are all in agreement that the Super NES is a different generation than the NES. So Nintendo being Nintendo, what if they call their next gen system the Switch Pro, just b/c, you know, Nintendo? See also Wii and Wii U. I mean it's not much of a stretch to go from U to Pro and be a new gen w/ full backwards compatibility. Heck these days Xbox Series S is barely more than and Xbox 1 X. I've seen people try to argue it's less. It's almost as if Microsoft intentionally muddied the waters w/ their naming system.
But give Sony and MS credit, still to this day, no game ran ONLY on X1X or PS4 Pro that didn't run on the base model. Nintendo had several games that only ran on New 3DS that didn't run on 3DS. Yet Nintendo considers New 3DS the same gen, even though it has "next gen" exclusives like XC. XSX still doesn' thave any exclsuives that I'm aware of.
Point is, I'm not going by what Nintendo calls it, New Switch or Switch Pro, if it has exclusive next gen games, it's a next gen console. If BotW2 only runs on Switch Pro, it's next gen. Exclusive games define the gen, not the name.
And since Switch is now 4 years old, and I've seen some people say - Switch Pro in 2023 - well that's 6 years after the Switch launch. Is there any point in putting our a "mid-gen" upgrade 6 years after a console launch? I feel like even if it's next year, 2022, 5 years after launch, no matter what they name it, it's still going to have some exclusive games, otherwise, why bother? 4k Netflix out to TV?
Also, if they replace the current Switch w/ a "Switch Pro" at the current $300 price point, is it really a "Pro" or is it the new base model? Does "Pro" imply a more expensive console alongside a cheaper one? Pro vs Lite i suppose could apply, they won't bother upgrading the Lite to 4k vid since no tv out. But Switch is now 4 years old, launched at $300, still $300 (has any console ever held a launch price that long before?) is there really a market for a $400 Pro next to a $300 Switch in 2022?
I'm all about the big picture, no vacuums.
Oh, BTW, skywake, post #25 w/ the numbers, spot on. Switch at 100mil is such a sure thing in my head I just consider it 100m sold now. Sure thing. After that, well see all the tangibles above.
@johnvboy No worries, I thought your emphasis on the pandemic point I mentioned may have included me as well in your criticism but there’s no confusion because I know we agree.
@rjejr
I'm not sure if you are being disingenuous or not, but Nintendo has made clear the difference between upgraded hardware revisions that may or may not have content not playable on the standard models vs full-on next gen platforms. There is a big difference between, say, the NDSi being an upgraded revision of the NDS vs the 3DS being the NDS's next gen successor, and I'm sure you are aware of those differences.
PS2/DS is in sight. Let's say 25 mil projection is met again- that means March 2022, at the full 5 year mark, Switch will be at 110 million units sold. Even 2 more years at 22.5 million each will bust the record for best selling console of all time. And with a new model Switch coming, I think that's within the realm of possibility, and even likelihood. If they go 8 years instead of 7 (said they wanted to extend the lifetime) they'd only need to average 15 million per year for those final 3 years, and that's with the boost the revision will give.
At worst, we're looking at the 3rd highest selling console of all time.
@rjejr
Exclusive games do define the gen. However, it can't be just some exclusive games. It has to be a clear divide where every game released from that point forward only runs on the new system. Barring that, it's a pro model upgrade.
The reason Sony and MS didn't have Pro exclusives is because the base systems were powerful enough to run any game, even if at lower specs. With portable devices, that's not going to be the case. Many games physically cannot run on both. That's the difference.
All that said, the new model will likely just have a 7" OLED screen and will be a bit more powerful. We'll see a few 3rd party exclusives that simply cannot run on base Switch, like Zombie Army 4. But 1st party releases will remain playable across the board (maybe there's 1 or 2 exceptions but I doubt it).
The true next gen Switch will be a massive leap to 7nm tech (and I don't wanna hear ppl say, "that'll be outdated, we'll be at 5nm and 3nm by then!" because $300 mass produced consoles have never been cutting edge. At most we saw a good modern leap with PS5/XSX, but even those are outclassed by my PC, and my PC is outclassed by the new 30xx line of GPUs. A 7nm chip for a hybrid system would give us PS4 level power, which is where most 3rd party games will be able to run and look great.
Would a Switch Pro continue this lineage or count as a new line? I guess it boils down to a tech upgrade vs a new format the last version can't play.
The answer is very important if Nintendo is gunning for the DS/PS2 spot.
I'm just imagining how the sells will jump when we finally get Metroid prime 4, Bayonetta 3, and BoTW 2, I got the switch because the former 2 had been announced 4 months before I got it. We haven't even heard anything about any of them in years though.
@westman98 "has made clear"
That's past tense, right?
Also doesn't address this list of New 3DS games not playable on the 3DS.
Xenoblade Chronicles
Binding of Isaac: Rebirth
Fire Emblem Warriors
Wind-up Knight 2
Runbow Pocket
Futuridum EP Deluxe
BlockForm
Pixel Hunter
Lifespeed (eShop)
SNES VC
Minecraft: New Nintendo 3DS Edition
It's always easy to spot the difference when the difference is made clear and easy to spot, NES vs Super NES. But that Gameboy line, do you think everyone can group these into their respective gens? Some are admittedly easier than others, but I bet some people can't even tell how many gens are there, 1 2 or 3? Hopefully nobody says 7 gens but there's always one. 😝
Gameboy Advance
Gameboy Micro
Gameboy
Gameboy Color
Gameboy Pocket
Gameboy Advance SP
Gameboy Light
Also, I was addressing this comment of yours in post #32:
"A Switch Pro will absolutely count as a Switch"
What if Nintendo comes out and says "We are calling our next gen Switch "Switch Pro". - Does it still "absolutely count" as a Switch bc/ you said so, or are we taking Nintendo at their word? What law says they can't call "Switch 2" "Switch Pro"? They called next gen NES "Super NES" and next gen Wii "Wii U". I don't think a next gen Switch called Switch Pro is out of the realm of possibility. If only to troll the world. Seems actually like a Nintendo thing to do after all this time. Switch Pro or something completely out there, like Dolphin or Rumpelstiltskin. Switch 2 is pretty much a non-starter, Nintendo has NEVER EVER done a 2. Talk about your "has made clear".
@Rect_Pola It'll probably still be considered in the same family like the game boys and the switch lite.
@NintendoWiiDS,
Cool.
@Rect_Pola,
I think it would continue the same line just as the Ps4 Pro does with Sony.
And of course the Xbox One X....
The much bigger question is if there will be a Switch pro, to me it's just a core gamers fantasy, much more likely is another slight Switch revision.
@rjejr
Nintendo has made their groupings and classifications clear in their financial documents, and that's how I'll follow them.
You are free to confuse yourself as you wish.
@jbreez00,
These games do not sell massive numbers so not sure they will drive console sales all that much, of course all of these titles have the potential to perform the best sales wise on the Switch.
@JaxonH "It has to be a clear divide where every game released from that point forward only runs on the new system. Barring that, it's a pro model upgrade."
So are you arguing both PS5 and XSX/S are both "pro" model upgrades b/c neither has games only running on the new system? Xbox Series X/S literally has not 1 single game that's next gen, so you 100% just said Xbox Series is not a new gen, it's just a Pro X1X. PS5 has a couple, Dark Souls and Returnal, but Sackboy's Adventure, Spiderman: Miles Morales and upcoming Horizon Forbidden West are all on both PS4 and PS5, so PS5 seems like a Pro upgrade by your thinking as well.
I mean really - ever game - may never happen on XSX/S. Every game for the next 5 years that runs on XSS may be playable on X1X. Not the base model X1 but the X1X is nearly as powerful as the XSS, so it's possible. So what "exclusive" game will define the XSS as "next gen" and how many years do we have to wait?
@rjejr
They do have games only running on the new system. Every single PS5 game is only playable on PS5, and every Series X game released is only playable on Series X. They do not release games playable on both unless it's a last gen game playable via backwards compatibility feature.
And if a PS5/SX game runs on previous hardware it's because they dual released a previous gen version. Which is not the same as one single version running natively.
It doesn't matter if Xbox has games yet. It will in time. Generations aren't defined by cherry picking a few months after launch and saying aha! No games yet! No new gen! That's silly. And cross gen releases are irrelevant to the topic at hand. You can have cross gen releases all generation long. The very fact it is a cross gen release is indicative of the new generation.
Pro Model: similar architecture so current games run natively (not via BC), and any exclusives are because the previous model can't handle it. No drastic departure from vision or ecosystem, no change of menu layout, no change of storefront, etc. Usually released around sales peak of current system.
New Gen: differing architecture, current gen games cannot run natively (either cannot run or require BC functionality), exclusives are because the 1st party manufacturer has moved on, regardless of the capabilities of the previous system (though with a proper jump, it is often true games cannot run on previous systems, but that is not why they are exclusive). Departure from previous vision with new revised focus, new menu, new storefront design. Usually released after the current system's sales peak.
It took only 4 years to do that. That's what being missed in those numbers.
@johnvboy I don't know what your talking about they won't drive sales, Bayonetta maybe, but the other 2 are highly anticipated games that can easily sell the system to people that haven't gotten one. One's a direct sequel to one of the highest-selling switch games already out and the other finally has Samus back to bounty hunting instead of knocking fools off platforms.
@jbreez00,
It's simple, outside of the core gamers these games are not big sellers, hell I want them too, but i am under no illusions that these will be massive console sellers.
Missed Zelda in your previous post, that will sell bucket loads, but the rest have never been all that stellar.
@Nourldean Watch out, they might add in Vita sales 😂
@JaxonH "and every Series X game released is only playable on Series X"
Can you name 1? B/c Google can't find 1.
Also, and maybe I'm reading this wrong so you'll have to explain it to me, you said this:
"It has to be a clear divide where every game released from that point forward only runs on the new system. Barring that, it's a pro model upgrade"
where every game released from that point forward only runs on the new system
You went from saying EVERY GAME RELEASED has to run on the new system to be next gen to saying "well someday Xbox Series X is going to have a game Xbox 1 X can't run therefore that 1 game makes it's a next gen console".
And really, all of that stuff that came after Pro Model and New Gen basically simply boils down to - if Nintendo, Sony, MS SAY their console is next gen then it is next gen, like XSX, but if Nintendo, Sony or MS say their console isn't next gen, like New #DS even though it has a list of exclusive games - then it isn't next gen. It all boils down to - b/c they say so.
And if it all boils down to - it is what they say it is - well then there's no point discussing it. 🤷♂️
@westman98 "their groupings and classifications clear in their financial documents, and that's how I'll follow them."
As I just wrote above:
If it all boils down to - it is what they say it is - well then there's no point discussing it. 🤷♂️
@rjejr
You're confusing me. I don't know what you're talking about. What do you mean, "name one"? I already told you in the last post, cherry picking a small time frame and saying, "aha! Microsoft hasn't released any 1st party games yet so there! Not a new gen!" is silly logic that I really don't feel like wasting my time arguing against. If that's the evidence you think proves Series X isn't a new gen, then hey, believe whatever you want. I'm not gonna try to convince you otherwise.
And obviously it was implied I meant every first party release. Not multiplats. Clearly 3rd parties will release games on older systems for years. But a new gen is marked by the 1st party manufacturer shifting focus and moving their releases to the new system. They may still release on the old system as a cross gen release. But they do move on to the new system. And Xbox is doing that. Name a 1st party release that's coming to Xbox One but not Series S/X. There aren't any. Because their focus is on the new gen. The old gen may benefit for a while with cross gen releases but that will peter out.
As for naming one Xbox Series X game that’s not playable on both, be it 3rd parties or anyone else, the answer is all of them. The only ones that play on both are either Xbox One games running on Series S/X via BC and marketed as a version for both, or Series S/X games that also include a cross gen version. But not a single Series S/X game natively runs on Xbox One. Not a single one. Even then, there are games that don’t even offer both versions or secretly market an X1 game as a Series S/X game that’s running BC behind the scenes.
Has nothing to do with what they say. Has to do with the things I already listed in the previous post. Architecture, development focus, new UI and interface, new controller (although that could also happen with a pro release, it is typical). Every release for the new system will not run natively on the old. It requires a cross gen release, or a last gen release masquerading as a current gen game that actually just runs via BC with boosted performance. Whereas a pro system runs all games from the previous natively, sometimes with better specs, because the base architecture hasn’t been redesigned.
It's not rocket science. A pro is a more powerful revision that runs the same games natively, and may have exclusives the previous hardware can't run. A new gen system does not run games natively from the old or vise versa. Playing on both requires cross gen releases or BC. Running games natively (not BC) is the key tool of discernment, though many other typical traits apply as I’ve already mentioned.
It’s going to be second only to the NES. Everyone will remember Joy Con Drift like remembering blowing on a cartridge.
I think it's definitely cemented that the Hybrid and Portable lite version of the exact same system is the way forward for Nintendo. Now that its passing 3DS+WiiU sales combined.
Unless tech changes that developing big games becomes quicker I think one company managing two systems with different libraries simultaneously is no longer feasible.
@JaxonH "And obviously it was implied I meant every first party release"
Well maybe that's why I was confused, you never said that, and why would it be obvious?
"The only ones that play on both are either Xbox One games running on Series S/X via BC and marketed as a version for both, or Series S/X games that also include a cross gen version. But not a single Series S/X game natively runs on Xbox One. Not a single one. Even then, there are games that don’t even offer both versions or secretly market an X1 game as a Series S/X game that’s running BC behind the scenes."
There are so many twists and turns in this paragraph you are making me sea sick. You give a bunch of "no"s and then a bunch of exceptions to your no. It's a contortionist in a box. What does it matter if a game runs natively or not, what does it matter if a game is a dual release or not, either games run on a system or they don't. Either games exclusively play on 1 gen or the next. If they aren't exclusive they aren't exclusive.
Xbox Series will ultimately turn out to be a new gen. But mostly just b/c MS said so. That's the bottom line. If MS said it wasn't next gen, then it wouldn't be. All of the other explanations seem to fall by the wayside.
@rjejr
It's not hard. Do games run natively? Yes/no
Anything other than running natively means it's a new gen. I'm just giving you examples of what we observe. We observe last gen games running via BC, sometimes masquerading as current gen games (but they're not). We also observe current gen games that include a last gen version. Sorry if that makes your head spin. But if you want to discuss this topic you have to have the understanding to grasp these scenarios.
And games developed for Series S/X can't natively run on Xbox One, so it's a new gen regardless of what MS says.
Soooo speaking of which...
Can we get a Game Boy line Switch Online app please & asap Nintendo? Thank you kindly in (GB)Advance.
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