The digital era of gaming should have made video game preservation easier than ever, but as we've slowly been learning over the past decade, it appears to come with a number of setbacks. Some companies aren't interested in reviving older libraries of games, others put odd restrictions and limitations in place, and then you've got entire digital services being terminated.
On the Nintendo front, the Japanese company has just pulled the plug on Mario's anniversary titles. Over in the land of the PlayStation, Sony has officially confirmed the closure of the PS3, PS Vita and PSP storefront. It seems to be all doom and gloom right now when it comes to our beloved retro classics. Well, that's unless you're part of the Xbox ecosystem...
Microsoft has taken this moment to acknowledge the fact it's now "more important than ever" to ensure "gaming icons and classics" are preserved for both new and old generations. Here's exactly what it had to say on social media:
"As time goes on, it becomes more important than ever that we ensure gaming icons and classics are preserved for new and old players alike. Whether your first time playing Morrowind is from 2002 on your Xbox or 2021 on your phone, we're excited to share these experiences with you!"
It's doing this by essentially doubling-down on its Backward Compatibility program. 16 games, comprised of original Xbox and Xbox 360 titles, will be heading to the cloud very soon - allowing Xbox Game Pass Ultimate members to play these classics on their mobile devices.
Rare's studio head Craig Duncan has even chimed in on how Backward Compatibility is doing a great job preserving video game history, and making accessing older games incredibly easy:
"It’s essential. There are just a bunch of inherent complexities when generations and platforms change and being able to relive games you played previously and fondly remember is important. Those games contain memories and moments you can share with others and being able to do that quickly by just selecting the game in Xbox Game Pass is easy and just works with no fuss."
You can read more about Microsoft preserving the classics over on our sister site, Pure Xbox. There's a great feature up at the moment, reminding us how critical preservation is moving forward.
How do you feel Nintendo is doing with the whole video game preservation thing this generation? Is its Switch Online SNES and NES service enough? Would you like to see something like the Virtual Console make a comeback? Share your thoughts below.
Says the people still not making Blast Corps.
Also, I am against cloud gaming. Nothing like constantly being anchored in one place for a good connection doesn't sound fun for portable device.
Not to mention the fact that, if some small group finds your favorite game detestable or offensive, you have no say on whether you can continue playing it.
I'll take collections over that ANY day.
Yeah says the platform that doesn't even know how to preserve Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden 2 otherwise we would had got those two remastered instead of the inferior Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1 & 2.
I think it's moreso Sony that needs to learn this lesson, since they literally just shut down the ps3 store.
It’s a clever bit of marketing given both Sony and Nintendo’s faceplants on this issue.
Very clever of Microsoft to announce this after Sony's PS3/PSVita store closure announcement. Reminds me of the "Used Games" PS4 announcement Sony had after Microsoft's blunder at E3. That said, this still won't get me to get Game Pass.
@AnnoyingFrenzy I had gamepass for a few months, and overall I still didn't really play much on my Xbox One. To me, I'm not all that interested in Microsoft's exclusives, making the consoles themselves more like paper weights than anything else.
"You hear that, Nintendo?"
Nintendo: was about to shut down Mario Maker 2, 3D World, and Odyssey for some reason...I'm sorry, what did you say?
@VoidofLight That store had exist since 2005, it's only a matter of time until it will closed. Just be glad it remains open for as long as it did, 2005 to now is a long time. That's literally 16 years of PSN on PS3 and PSP, if you hadn't gotten any games that you want out of it then you had just wasted 16 years of your PSN time doing nothing for it. As for the PS Vita store, not sure why Sony would close that one, there are still devs making games on there and in Japan that thing is still barely active.
Case in point: the PS3, PSP, and Vita PlayStation Stores all closing down (for the record I have well over 100 purchases on the PS3 Store). Sure, you can still redownload purchases (for now) should your system/hard drive ever brick and you find a replacement, but the more prevalent digital games become, the more easily they'll be able to vanish forever once servers go down, publishers go under, or their platforms are replaced. Granted, 99.9% of eShop titles are hot, steaming garbage, but the ones that aren't...on ANY system...are going to be sorely missed by SOMEBODY out there.
Backwards compatibility is the only thing that can preserve videogames going forward, especially given the steps Nintendo and others have taken to stamp out emulation. If these companies don't take the steps necessary, huge chunks of this hobby's history, including their own, will disappear. And it would be telling if that means more to us as gamers than it does to them as corporations.
@Ghost_of_Hasashi I don't have a ps3, but I do know that those games will eventually be lost unless people take matters into their own hands.
Doesn't help matters that all ps3's are set to die due to a glitch that happens if you change the dead console battery on the motherboard. It renders even disk games unplayable.
@Ghost_of_Hasashi This is a Team Ninja and Tecmo issue, not Microsoft.
There isn't really a comparison here, Microsoft is doing a significantly better job retaining a connection with their legacy titles currently. Of course they are just taking this opportunity to dunk on Nintendo and Sony, as they have been dunked on in the past.
I really do wish there was a virtual console on Switch. I don't have Switch Online. I know it's cheap bit I don't play online. But I would buy a few old games here and there if offered. I'm still peeved I didn't get SNES games on vanilla 3DS.
@Paraka Blast Corps is in Rare Replay
Surprised to see people in the comments here cold on what Microsoft are doing. Game preservation IS important and they're doing it better than their competitors. It's not perfect but it's still miles better than the rest. It definitely makes me a hell of a lot more interested in getting a Series X.
I don't even like Game Pass.
There is NO Dance Dance Revolution Ultramix and Universe + XBOX 360 Kinect games compatibility for XBOX Series X so NO THANKS.
I will NEVER like that service.
I will try to get XBOX Classic and XBOX 360 machines to play DDR and Kinect games because i only like to play those games on XBOX machines, nothing else.
Make the XBOX Series X compatible with DDR Ultramix and Universe series and i will eat my words.
@Ghost_of_Hasashi That's on Koei Tecmo. Microsoft didn't make those games. They were just exclusive to their console
This has happened with numerous other games as well, for example literally anything Square made before Kingdom Hearts, or Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne
Lmao they say this right as Sony announces the closure of the pre-PS4 consoles' PS Stores and Nintendo removing 3D All Stars and FE Shadow Dragon from the face of existence
Nice one Microsoft
As a physical collector I will take it upon myself to collect and preserve as many games as I can.
Even as a physical collector, there's so many games now that are lacking content and polish at launch, with updates coming later down the line adding more content or polish. Animal Crossing New Horizons, or No Man's Sky for example.
Even with physical media, if the servers go down you won't be able to install the patches that make the game playable or better than it was at launch, effectively making the copy worthless.
Shut up micro.
Microsoft act like they care about preservation but they too also shutdown crap that people enjoy.
Microsoft does what Nintendon't!
I love Morrowind. <3
Says the company that bought Rare only to never use Banjo effectively locking him an a closet whilst simultaneously throwing the key in an incinerator and welding the door closed...
@BloodNinja Morrowind will timelessly remain on PC in its superior format, I think that's the last game that would need preservation. Not to mention projects like Skywind and Morrowind Overaul which significantly increase the accessibility for new players to enjoy it.
Hell, even Daggerfall got a Unity fan project and Arena is freeware.
Put in some botw on the switch and some fo:nv on my phone, at work this week. What a time to be a gamer. Now if I could just get a ps5/xbsx
Said a company that is pushing gamers toward a subscription service that routinely deletes games.
This is just a marketing ploy by them they probably don’t care much beyond it can make them money.
So when is 1 Vs. 100 coming back?
Nintendo likes to drip feed classic titles then yell at people who use emulation. Their best effort was the Wii's VC
This is a good statement, but rather ironic to hear it from Mr. Cloud Gaming over here
It still blows my mind that you can download Too Human — for FREE — on the Xbox One and Xbox Series platforms now, after all that happened in that game's sordid development & release history.
Did i stumble across Pure Xbox 2?
@lizardbish well said. I’m in your boat.
@Varkster Indeed! It's always one of the first games I install on a new PC, updated with some out-dated Morrowind graphics overhaul. Eh, it works. I love farting around in that game. The dialogue is timeless, and it's always fun trying my hardest to min/max a character with that unwieldly level up system. Skywind feels like a dream, even though I have seen footage of it. It feels like some quaint thing that people go window shopping for but they can't afford. I hope it comes out soon.
@lizardbish Agreed! But, PCs are still the superior piece of equipment for preservation, at least of digital media. Unless the series X can be jailbroken? Is that a thing, yet? I haven't followed Xbox in a loooong time!
Arrogant Sony is back and it will not serve them well.
@Ghost_of_Hasashi why would Microsoft have Tecmo’s source code? Game companies dont give away their source code to other companies. Thats like giving away a trade secret.
Microsoft has the finalized game, Ninja Gaiden Black and its still available for purchase. Ninja Gaiden 2 as well.
Its not their fault Tecmo lost the source code so they cant port it to other systems. If you want to play it, play it on a system that has backwards compatibility, like a current gen xbox.
How do you feel Nintendo is doing with the whole video game preservation thing this generation? Is its Switch Online SNES and NES service enough?
Nintendo actually preserves their games FAR more often than Sony and Microsoft. Heck, the fact that they attempt to port their decade old games from every gen proves it.
The only problem is that unlike those two, Nintendo hasn't done anything to bring in the demand of their legacy content further.
Admittedly Microsoft is going all in with preserving and promoting its older games as it hasn’t had anything worth playing in over five years, and it’ll probably be another two until they see their new developers make anything.
Which is easy for them to say considering when they came to the market. Gaming was not expected to take off the way it did. It is a toy/family home entertainment genre. Not every company held on to source code or is still in one piece to this day. Not to mention licensing issues. Not even xbox has “preserved all their games” otherwise I wouldn’t need to still own an OG xbox for the games that aren’t BC.
And Nintendo has done better than most preserving old games. People just complain about em being ports or it is not free. To try to make this a dig against any of the companies that entered in the 70s and 80s is tone deaf.
No console maker can preserve all games. The closest they can do is make systems BC with original media. Otherwise, you deal with licensing, lost source code and sales hurdles (is it financially viable to put some niche title on the port or even BC train?). That costs money and dev time and no for profit company is a charity. This is a marketing ad meant to evoke a knee jerk reaction pure and simple.
Some quality fanboy denial on here. Microsoft are absolutely head and shoulders above Nintendo and Sony on this. Not only making thousands of games Backwards compatible but even improving some of them. Obviously PC is the best format for preservation but in the Console space MS are currently peerless.
Nintendo used to be good and have always taken opportunities in the past to make money off their old games (I do laugh when I see people getting all upset about them porting and remastering as if it’s a new thing) but no, the NES and SNES Online service isn’t enough. Switch is a great Retro system but because of third parties, not Nintendo.
If games disappear off Game Pass they don’t get deleted out of existence you know. You can still buy them.
It’s weird how many people don’t seem to know this, to be fair it’s not just you.
@VoidofLight PS3 etc. can't be lost ever since you can emulate it full speed on PC.
All old consoles ever is emulated excluding PS4 and Xbox One, so far.
With PC you never lose any digital purchase.
I think someone in Nlife towers thought this was Pure X-Box.
Lol, they're being generous because their brand is less popular than Playstation and Switch (especially in Japan...!) not because of some moral duty or the goodness of their heart!
Unfortunately success breeds arrogance as we can see with the Switch in some ways.
@Ventilator You need a really good and expensive pc to do that.
It's funny though, that they're giving away Banjo Kazooie on the day Nintendo takes away Mario 64!
Why do we need to preserve everything? Seriously, why?
I picked up a Series S on a whim because it was cheap (skipped out on xbox halfway through last gen) and have been absolutely blown away.
Firstly I immediately had access to my old game library of over 300 games, and then with GamePass I doubt I will have to buy any games for a long time. I was going to grab Outriders today but that has dropped onto the service so that's saved me £60 (or effectively given me 6 months of gamepass free)
Also for those who dislike renting games, every game on gamepass is available to purchase digitally and for the physical only group the XsX is backwards compatible with original Xbox, 360 and Xb1 discs.
@Clyde_Radcliffe it's always been on GamePass, they have just added it to the streaming service so you can play it on your phone via Xcloud.
@VoidofLight Not nowadays. Must be long time since you checked PC prices.
@Ventilator PC’s are like 1,000 to 2,000 dollars or more if you know how to build them. Graphics cards are absolutely expensive, and the better ones are hard to get.
If you don’t know how to build one, you have to buy a pre-built which could be even more expensive..
Nintendo aren't doing enough and not just because they've stopped selling 3d All Stars. Nintendo Switch online has brought many old games to a new audience but as you can't buy them, what's to stop Nintendo simply removing them and leaving us with nothing? When a true Switch successor comes out, will these simply cease to be?
@Ghost_of_Hasashi what's the Ninja garden collection got to do with Microsoft, it's being made by Koei Tecmo for all platforms?
Hopefully the overreaction to this “event” will die too. And tomorrow will just be another day.
They are adding some old game to their cloud service, dont kid yourselves .
Also the announcement come on the back of Mario games being pulled and sony store closures, it seems like a little publicity stunt for all the melancholy prone gamers.
Thta said great effort from Microsoft for actually taking the time to do this. Preserved for now at least.
@VoidofLight Pre-Built from Lenovo on sale is usually cheap.
You can get one with a RTX 2060 as low as around 800 bucks on sale.
As a bonus, the GPU have Tensor cores for deep learning / AI etc, and Ray Tracing support in games.
This PC can also emulate Switch and Wii U at full speed.
Same PC runs most new PC Games at Ultra.
Good sentiment, unfortunately from the one with the weakest gaming history. I hope Sony and Nintendo will take a page, and treat their legacy consoles accordingly.
Nintendo were relevent from the begining of consoles. When the NES, SNES and Gameboy consoles were out, game preservation wasn't really a thing. They were still new.
Is it unreasonable to expect Nintendo to make a console with every cartridge slot for every system they ever made? It's nice they did it to allow previous gen software to work on their handhelds. Even the Wii and Wii U offered it. But to play everything would be like the car Homer Simpson designed.
Mr Iwata did mention that Nintendo were starting from scratch with the Switch. I reckon anything on Switch will be playable for many years to come, no matter what their next consoles are.
You can't complain at Nintendo being a victim of gaming history. I would say.
@Mince it’s not just words though. Xbox has been upgrading older games for years; e.g allowing RDR and FFXIII a upscaled resolution boost on the Xbox One X. They have actually put their money where their mouth is.
So many people here trashing Microsoft. If you actually tried their ecosystem you might be pleasantly surprised.
And no taking games off gamepass doesn’t delete them out of existence. If anything, Gamepass is allowing indie devs a headstart with cashflow to keep them in the game longer.
The only thing Microsoft doesn’t do very well is physical games; but with patches etc unfortunately physical is worth less and less. And i’m saying that as someone who loves cartridges and buys physical on switch.
Also any game I downloaded when I first got my 360 in Jan 2006, I can still play today; most of them (but not all) on my Series X.
Sega should take note more than Nintendo
The people here who are attacking Microsoft for not making "that game" available or because Game Pass is not a good service because "games are removed" make me blush. If for a minute you take your time and compare what Microsoft has been offering and what Nintendo hasn't been doing, you'd notice you sound like babies.
Man, imagine if NSO meant you could play NES and SNES games in the NSO app.
@GrailUK No one is asking for a NES slot in their Switch. It's more about how some games are now unavailable for purchase or disabled, like Mario35.
@SmaggTheSmug Well, that's even more inane. It was made for Mario's anniversary and free to play. I think that's cool.
Edit^ Gah, hate saying games are free. It's obviously behind a subscription (but that's so cheap it practically was lol!)
I'd rather play the games on the console that they were made for...that's my honest opinion. However, I do enjoy when they are re-released on a new console too. Sony and Nintendo both do this. I loved the Nintendo E-Shop when it had all of the virtual games from their past systems, but there were a lot of games that were missed out on this (basically by other companies, some of which are no longer around). But, as a 41 year old gamer, I also enjoy bringing out one of my old consoles, hooking it up, and delving into my youth by playing the games on the console that they were made for...it's a thing that I've enjoyed over my lifetime! As for Sony closing the PS3, Vita and PSP store...why keep having people working on them and paying them, Nintendo does this too...when the system is obsolete, or when they have a new console later on, why bother...most people will flock to the new console to get games. As for online only games, this is why I don't really purchase micro transitions for them or pay money for them...it's going to happen. Eventually Fortnite will be taken away (kind of glad, tired of hearing about that game). Angry Birds used to be extremely popular, and look at that now...all things come to an end eventually (Pogs, Finger Skateboards, CD's, Cassettes...etc). Eventually, when the popularity comes back, so will them in a different way (just like vinyl records)...until then...I'll take what I have.
I guess it's easier when you've only created 2 or 3 ; )
But yeah they're right.
@JLPick so you have Ghostbusters as your avatar, a film that came out in 1984. I assume you only ever watch this on VHS (or maybe Betamax) as that is how it was originally released for home consumption. None of this Bluray or streaming stuff, that's only for film originally released for home consumption on those platforms?
I don't disagree about focussing on the new content, i buy a new console I want new games, but that doesn't mean the past should be left where it was all the time. In some cases yes very much it should be. But for games, not everyone can get old console and old copies. To many people, old is new.
I don't think people are sad the PS3 store is closing, I think they're sad there is no current way for a lot of those games to remain available for people to enjoy and share anymore. I desperately want more people to play Thousand Year Door, it was a game changer for me and really inspired me, but unless they're able to get their hands on a Gamecube and fork out £90+ for a second hand copy they just can't. Not legally anyway. It's sad that all that work that so many put in, that inspired so many, is now fading into memory. We preserve music and film and artworks, but we let games fall by the wayside. That's a real shame.
Hmm seem to remember some Forza games reaching their "end of life" status and no longer able to purchase so glass houses and all that.
Also of course Microsoft cling on to their older games considering their lack of worthwhile exclusives this past decade.
“ Is it unreasonable to expect Nintendo to make a console with every cartridge slot for every system they ever made?”
Yes, but that’s not what is being suggested or what is meant by preservation.
@electrolite77 Oh. So what is it? (Copyright cat from Red Dwarf lol)
Best April FOOLS joke so far.
I'd happily buy a Nintendo Box that simply plays all their old games, or something that lets me use my Wii U hard drive and add games to it.
Xbox has the slightly easier task as it only began in the Gamecube/PS2 era and even they fumble due to licensing. Fairly sure that's the main reason so few OG xbox games are BC. Been playing the Mechassault games on mine recently.
Out of 3000 games Xbox "preserved" less than 600, so they have a huge task still.
I’ve considered buying and Xbox one just for Rare replay, but haven’t yet. If I just want to try out the old games Game Pass may be a good option though. I’m curious if they will add more Rare games. I’ve also considered picking up a copy of rare replay just to hold on to incase I buy an Xbox one later.
Related: I actually just bought a used Wii U for the virtual console. I never owned a GBA but there are several GBA games I want to try. I also want to own Mario Kart 64 because of playing it as a kid. Also gives me the opportunity to buy Windwaker HD and Twilight Princess HD if they don’t come to switch. I just hope they don’t shut down the Wii U eShop before announcing them for switch.
@K1LLEGAL I don't disagree..I Just liked the timing of the announcement between ps3 closure and mario removals.
I think its great that microsoft have continued to do this. Though you have raised a point to me about the fact games-pass games don't last.
I only left microsoft after the 360 because I found they focused on fps and I prefer rpgs...not sure if this quite so true these days?
Unfortunately I’m now invested in PlayStations exclusives well the library of games I’ve bought from the store, lets hope they last 😂
But I do think playstation will be more likely to focus on backwards compatibly from now. It’s just to bad they didn't included a vita emulator for the ps5
@K1LLEGAL I couldn't believe it when microsoft acquired the developers of HellBlade senua’s sacrifice. Ill have to borrow a mates xbox for that sequel.
@VoidofLight I love Game Pass. I am not really into Microsoft Exclusives that much, but they have brought a lot of games to the service that I do like. Square Enix has a huge presence on the service. There are some other JRPGs, and regular RPGs, that I enjoy on there as well. Also, they have some pretty good strategy games on there (I love Frost punk, I put enough hours into that in a few months to justify the sub). It is a shame that Sony and Nintendo haven't caught on to this model, but maybe they aren't as willing to throw around the cash in order to get something like this up and running (or maybe they don't have the type of money to lose like Microsoft has).
@Ghost_of_Hasashi Ummmm that is an issue with Team Ninja. Hard drives fail and odds are the source code for the original game was probably stored on a physical device as server farms for small developers were still not super common for developers in the mid-00s. Does it suck? Yeah and I mean to be fair to them BioWare lost the Pinnacle Station DLC so it is not even an exclusively Team Ninja problem.
@VoidofLight You do realize Ninty literally did this a few years ago to the wii shop channel?
@GrailUK Consider this: Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory has been released for free in 2003. Yet you can still download it and find people playing it. It was one of the games that popularized objective oriented team-based shooters, like Overwatch. There are many online shooters that came after it and people paid for that are now dead, because the developers are the ones handling the server side. I was a beta tester for Loadout and now I cannot ever play it again.
@TheFrenchiestFry to be fair, this is more directed towards Sony ,and not Nintendo.
Nintendo DOES preserve its classics but like with 3D all stars, and FE Shadow Dragon that was all just business and to get people to buy up the collection as soon as possible.
Nintendo didn’t close the 3DS Eshop did they? THEY know people still play on it so they keep the store open for them
@CBordo Well Nintendo does care about their past . Sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t.
This is mainly directed towards Sony who doesn’t even care about their past as it is already shown
@SmaggTheSmug Do you think Loadout would be popular if it managed to see a re-release, or would it be more niche?
(Honest quest, I'm not steering.)
@K1LLEGAL yeah why all the hate for Xbox?
Xbox is doing good and in some ways, better than Sony and the PlayStation
@Mince wierdly I love my JRPGs. Microsoft definitely doesn’t have anywhere near the amount that PS and Nintendo have, but they have almost all the big ones; and they are making the shift to getting more and more (e.g. Kingdom Hearts, Yakuza, Octopath). I actually think they are breaking barriers with Japan at the moment and hopefully they will be able to get some more on the system.
No idea what is happening with Square Enix though in that regard. In one corner they are wacking everything on Gamepass. And then at the same time signing exclusivity deals with Sony.
With Western RPGs Microsoft is all good on that front and should be the strongest console for them going forward.
Also Hellblade was a very solid game!
VIVA PINATA, FILLED WITH FUN, FILLED WITH FUN! Dang I forgot about that game
Nintendo is at least making an effort to bring back some of those old games of theirs, if not all of them right now.
Sony, on the other hand, expects their audience to move on from the past and focus more on what's present -_-
@Judal27 yes, yes I do.
@Kyloctopus Soon, actually! It's officially unofficially confirmed that something would be happening regarding that. Spencer commented-without-commenting and teasing about that earlier in the year, or end of 2020 IRC.
@GrailUK Hard to say. It was a bit more of a classic arena shooter, with the main gimmick being "build your own guns". It would have a hard time going against Fortnite, which didn't exist back then.
@SmaggTheSmug Nothing lasts forever. Even Fortnite.
Lol like Nintendo gives a ****
entire digital services being terminated
You mean buying on a storefront nobody uses anymore because it's 3 generations old? Ya, those tend to get terminated. Its not like people haven't had, oh Idk, 15 years to buy whatever they want. And it's not like you can't re-download them if you already purchased them.
I saw all the fuss over the PS store closures and I couldn't help but shake my head. I hate propaganda and narratives. The idea that "digital preservation is so bad because the store shut down" is ridiculous. Do they print physical copies forever? Of course not. Neither will they sell digital forever. But goodness, if nearly 2 decades isn't long enough to buy what you want, then you were never gonna buy it in this lifetime.
What people conveniently omit, is that the store shutting down only means no new purchases. It has zero bearing on redownloading already purchased games. They're not gonna pay to keep a digital store up where they only see 300 sales per year across the entire planet earth. That's foolishness and just burning cash for nothing. If people were still using it in any significant numbers, they wouldn't close it. The fact they're closing it is proof enough that almost no one is buying games there anymore.
And as for Mario... who cares. The games have been out for decades, on multiple consoles, and wouldnt even exist on Switch at all if not for the celebratory timed release. Everyone was given plenty of warning it was a timed celebratory release. If someone didn't buy the game its because they willfully chose not to. And there's over 5 million physical copies out in the wild? That's not a preservation issue. They're gonna be naming landfills over that collection one day.
It's all a bunch of fear mongering and propaganda.
@Lemonyoshi lol, well, considering this is about PRESERVATION the Banjo games are easily accessible on Xbox Store and Gamepass, complete with 4K60 upgrades for Xbox One X and Series X owners.
The OG BK even runs in widescreen, analogue camera with full draw distance - something Nintendo couldn't be arsed doing with Super Mario 64.
The next Banjo has to be timed right... And didn't MS have Banjos original designer update him for Smash bros?
You can't deny Microsoft pushed the boat right out there for fan service.
@Ogbert First of all, did you not even read my whole post...second of all, it's my opinion, just like everyone else on here. You have your opinions, I have mine...it's not something for someone else to try and start a fight with, so please don't respond to someone if you are to do just that.
Other than that, read it...I am one that would rather play the game on the console it was meant for, I never stated that I wouldn't re-play it or re-purchase it on a new console. Nintendo keeps releasing the same ones over and over again on the next consoles, and it got old quickly...it's the same NES, Super NES games released time and time again, to where the other companies (even some of the ones that are out of business) should start with their games too. I still have my past consoles, do I set them up...no...is there times that I will and relive my childhood days...yes. What I was stating, is that (and I'm not sure your age, but I'm 41), it really feels good when you hook up an old console and replay the games again...it hits you in the brain feeling like you're reliving your youth. As for movies that you decided to throw in, I don't do digital (you do not really own them), so yes, I do still have VHS (Don't really watch them, but I have home movies on them), and I still have DVD's, Blurays, Cassettes, CD's, Records and 8-tracks...but that's also what I collect. And no, Ghostbusters I own on Blurray now, but I used to have it on VHS back in the days, and wish I still did have it (was an awesome cover on it).
@JLPick Yes I did, and I agreed with many of your points, just questioned some.
You're of course entitled to your opinion, as I am welcome to mine, doesn't mean either of us are entitled to have it go unquestioned.
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